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Cadel's Chance

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benpounder said:
But Menchov got up and continued racing... without sniveling.... and won a grand tour.

Menchov's crash at the giro was at the last kilometre of the race. menchov's crash at the tour last year was at 15-20km uphill. he didn't fall that hard. Cadel's was on a descent of a mountain i think the col de peyresuode. Big difference in the severity of injury.
 
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benpounder said:
In my dreams, Evans takes yellow early. Silence-Lotto then implodes trying to keep the petulant snot in front, and Evans exploding when it really matters.

Then we could have some youtube videos, like last year, of the ever mature, ever gracious Cadel Evans...


I am sure you would be pleasant as well getting banged on the shoulder that you just crashed on the day before. Personally I think in many cases he treated the majority of the media with the same respect they showed him.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Msjett liscence has been taken off him. He has broke the Aussie Sport fan club number 1 rule- Never bag an Aussie:eek:. My point is that when the atacks come down to it will Rogers even be able to stay up with Cadel? I don't think so. Cadel is another level higher than him.

I actually think Rogers is a better rider then Cadel, Rogers is finally coming good after a couple of bad years due to injury and illness. Plus he will get more support from his team (even with it divided for Cav) then Silence will for Cadel.

But then I could be considered biased because he is from Canberra.
 

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auscyclefan94 said:
Amen:) Go Cadel! Cadel needs to take at least 20-30 seconds to Contador in the monaco tt because even if Silence Lotto do a great ride in the ttt, i think they'll still lose time to Astana. The first week will shape the tour a fair bit. After the ttt it will show who are the pretenders and the contenders:p


Has this been posted ?

WTF up with this ?
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WEGELIUS OUT OF TOUR
It seems astonishing that Silence-Lotto have selected Thomas Dekker, but left out Charly Wegelius.

Before anyone levels the accusation that this is pro-British bias, take a look at Dekker’s results. A rider once touted as the next big Dutch hope was fourth in the Tour of Belgium and 16th in the Tour of Switzerland. Good results, but not great.

Can he be there in the mountains for Cadel Evans? You wouldn’t think so.

Mind you, his Tour place may yet be up for grabs because he was struck down with food poisoning at the Dutch national championships at the weekend
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
I don't see your point about what is so bad about my post:confused:

I think when you open your post with a statement like "Cadel needs to take 20-30 secs off Contador in the opening TT" you open yourself up to comments like that, you don't help things with your comment about the TTT.
 
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subzro said:
I think when you open your post with a statement like "Cadel needs to take 20-30 secs off Contador in the opening TT" you open yourself up to comments like that, you don't help things with your comment about the TTT.

I still don't see your point mr know-it-all. let's talk cycling not bs:p
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
I still don't see your point mr know-it-all. let's talk cycling not bs:p

The opening TT is 15km long, the TT is after another two days flat racing ... before all the mountains and the big individual TT ...

... you do the math
 
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The opening TT is 15km long, the TT is after another two days flat racing ... before all the mountains and the big individual TT ...

... you do the math

Yes it is only after 4 days but big time gaps could eventuate in the team time trial so he needs a buffer over Contador to minimise his losses
 
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Evans is too much of a wheel sucker and he doesn't have the punch in the mountains that other climbers have. He is resilient but not aggressive enough; he'll do nothing in the Tour.

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Andre.J said:
Evans is too much of a wheel sucker and he doesn't have the punch in the mountains that other climbers have. He is resilient but not aggressive enough; he'll do nothing in the Tour.

You obviously didn't watch or see the reports on the Dauphine. Cadel was no wheelsucker and was an antagonist on the mountains. He has more the diesel engine when climbing, but at least he is trying to change his climbing style. He will never have the same punchy, accelerating climbing style as Contador or the Schlecks, but that doesn't make him not aggressive or relegate him to doing nothing in the Tour. He'll be up there giving it his best with a better team around him. If he can stay up on the bike, then he'll be top 5 and, my prediction, second yet again.
 
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No chance for Cadel now...;) Dekker caught for use of EPO in 2007, SIL leaves him at home and substitutes him with Wegelius..

Dekker pulled from SIL team

reaction SIL:

Thomas Dekker, zondag met maagproblemen uit het Nederlands kampioenschap gestapt maar maandag weer genezen, start dan toch niet in de Tour.

Dekker ontving woensdagmorgen het bericht dat in urine van een niet aangekondigde controle op 24 december 2007 epo is gevonden. Dekker maakte op dat ogenblik deel uit van de ploeg Rabobank.

Het resultaat van die test uit december 2007 was aanvankelijk negatief. Maar omdat bepaalde waarden bij controles in de loop van 2008 verdacht leken, testte het WADA de urine van december 2007 in mei van dit jaar opnieuw volgens de intussen fel verbeterde methodes.

Resultaat: epo. Dekker kreeg het nieuws te horen op de dag dat hij naar Monaco zou reizen om er zaterdag te starten in de Tour.

Marc Sergeant: "Ik ben zwaar ontgoocheld. Dit is weliswaar gebeurd toen Dekker niet voor Silence-Lotto reed maar in dienst was van Rabobank, maar het nieuws komt daarom niet minder hard aan. Ik heb hem meteen op non-actief gezet en Charles Wegelius opgeroepen om naar Monaco te komen.”

Sergeant probeerde voor zijn afreis naar Monaco om Dekker aan de telefoon te krijgen, maar dat lukte niet.
 
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elapid said:
You obviously didn't watch or see the reports on the Dauphine. Cadel was no wheelsucker and was an antagonist on the mountains. He has more the diesel engine when climbing, but at least he is trying to change his climbing style. He will never have the same punchy, accelerating climbing style as Contador or the Schlecks, but that doesn't make him not aggressive or relegate him to doing nothing in the Tour. He'll be up there giving it his best with a better team around him. If he can stay up on the bike, then he'll be top 5 and, my prediction, second yet again.

Yes I saw the Dauphine. I saw the lack of power whenever Evans made a move. In the Tour it will be much different; I don't think he'll do those short bursts. Since he doesn't have the punch he does what he has to do which is follow the wheel. That's probably why he seems so passive. I give him between 4th and 6th.

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Cadel's best chance was last year with no Astana, and he couldn't do it. Something always happens to him along the 3 weeks. He looked good in the Dauphine, but so have countless others only to have peaked too early for the TDF. You don't win the Tour in June, you hopefully peak the third week in July.

Now, his odds are very very low. Maybe if LA can AC get taken out by illness or crashes, and Schleck, Sastre do the same.
 
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Cadel's best chance was last year with no Astana, and he couldn't do it. Something always happens to him along the 3 weeks. He looked good in the Dauphine, but so have countless others only to have peaked too early for the TDF. You don't win the Tour in June, you hopefully peak the third week in July.

Now, his odds are very very low. Maybe if LA can AC get taken out by illness or crashes, and Schleck, Sastre do the same.

Gotta agree. This year's tour is a whole different ball game and I don't think Cadel makes the podium.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
I hope so. I am editor of his website (tdmagazine.nl) and he is feeling great. The only thing that worries him is that so far he lacked power uphill this season, compared to 2008 and 2007.

Oooops. Sucks to be you eh? No wonder he had the power in 2007-8.
 
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Andre.J said:
Yes I saw the Dauphine. I saw the lack of power whenever Evans made a move. In the Tour it will be much different; I don't think he'll do those short bursts.
Lack of Power?? Considering AC was the only one able to cover most of those moves and he is considered the best climber in the peleton, I think that comment doesn't have much cred. Forget Valverde on Ventoux, Cadel was there to judge himself against AC and he was happy with the progress. He is relaxed and liking the lack of limelight; one thing for sure, if he does not win it won't be for lack of trying.
 
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Lack of Power?? Considering AC was the only one able to cover most of those moves and he is considered the best climber in the peleton, I think that comment doesn't have much cred. Forget Valverde on Ventoux, Cadel was there to judge himself against AC and he was happy with the progress. He is relaxed and liking the lack of limelight; one thing for sure, if he does not win it won't be for lack of trying.

Nobody said he's not going to try. They're all going to try; that's the problem, the Tour is full of good climbers, not like the Dauphine. To me it looked like Contador was toying with him. Contador will not toy around with anyone in the Tour.

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elapid said:
You obviously didn't watch or see the reports on the Dauphine. Cadel was no wheelsucker and was an antagonist on the mountains. He has more the diesel engine when climbing, but at least he is trying to change his climbing style. He will never have the same punchy, accelerating climbing style as Contador or the Schlecks, but that doesn't make him not aggressive or relegate him to doing nothing in the Tour. He'll be up there giving it his best with a better team around him. If he can stay up on the bike, then he'll be top 5 and, my prediction, second yet again.

Agree :D

After he came 2nd in 2007, he did a bunch ride in Sydney around Nov.

Asked the question about going one better in 2008 he aluded to issues with Astana - which had yet to become to the public (ie Astana/Contador not competing)...

CE's response was....... I want Astana at the Tour, SL is not strong enough or styled to the control peleton. If for some reason Astana are not at the TDF the burden and pressure will fall on S-L and me !

That is exactly what happened.....plus a smashed shoulder and he still 2nd......thats 1st in my books :eek: