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Cadel's destintation...

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Where will Cadel be in 2010?

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Jun 13, 2009
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Galic Ho said:
Check the bold. How would Evans have known, unless he is aware of your alias and real identity? As 53x11 said at the time, in all likelyhood to the casual observer, total BS by you. I'm not saying it was, only you know, but it looked that way. It would have taken courage to back up what you were claiming. You have your reasons and I'll leave it at that. Aussiecyclefan didn't hold back, even though it was looking alarmingly like Evans was heading to BMC.

"Wannabe's, havebeen's and knowitalls." So your 'anonymous opinion' is that other posters hide behind their anonymous identities and can be described by the previous three terms. Classy assessment as that describes all of cyberspace, a vast uncharted region that streches to infinity and beyond. Good to hear someone say Cadel isn't a hero. Also seems you haven't elevated onto the pedestal many other have. Very few heroes ride bikes for a living.

New topic. Who thinks after the TDU announcement we'll see some new editions to Cadels racing calender? Maybe the Giro, as a lot here hoped, is now on the menu and he could take a serious crack. I'd like to see it, but don't know what to think with Evans. I was positive he wouldn't race the TDU. Would he really foresake the Giro as a GC ambition, where BMC have an invite, to cling to the hope of a Tour invite?


I wouldn't read too much into the TDU decision. I have seen him say in the last couple of days that he wants to do it to show off the Rainbow jersey to the locals. And good on him for having that attitude. In the same article (interview, can't remember if it was in the paper or on tv) he said the TdF was still his main goal.

I'd like to see him do the Giro/Vuelta double and skip the TdF. No-one is beating AC and the course doesn't suit him at all.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Galic Ho said:
You really don't get it do you. Fandom at work.

Check the bold. I never said it wasn't the DS decision to wait or to not recon the course. I said a real leader would have had the balls to challenge the DS and at least question his logic on it, given said leaders ambition to win the tour. Everyone knows it was one of a few decisive stages. Was being a complacent individual worth it? No. Cadels race was in tatters and he's now telling all how wrong the team was. By all means you can absoslve him off any blame for his predicament, I will not. You keep making excuses for why Evans did not do specific factors relating to strategy, preparation and race tactics, that any person who had loft Tour ambitions would have seeked to address and remedy. Evans appears to have either done little, or was reluctant to do so. All signs of poor leadership or a confused individual.

I suggested Evans should have been a leader and not a follower, taken charge, lead the troops. He didn't. You make it seem like Cadel crossed his fingers and hoped for the best. A good course in human interaction might be a good start for his time at BMC.

You don't get it. In a open road race and especially a ttt you can't go and challenge a ds' descison when the race is in the balance or in progress. Cadel's being asked questions and answering them about his former team. That's not bad mouthing. Silence since 2005 have had no clue how to properley provide for a leader. That's not an excuse. It's fact. I don't agree with you about evans not being a good leader. he is one man. yes he has to be the leader but in the ttt situation it was the ds' descision, he couldn't of changed it. After the ttt the team did what they could to help him but he was too far back and the damage had been done.

I don't really get what your saying with the part in bold.
 
Apr 29, 2009
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Galic Ho said:
Check the bold. How would Evans have known, unless he is aware of your alias and real identity? As 53x11 said at the time, in all likelyhood to the casual observer, total BS by you. I'm not saying it was, only you know, but it looked that way. It would have taken courage to back up what you were claiming. You have your reasons and I'll leave it at that. Aussiecyclefan didn't hold back, even though it was looking alarmingly like Evans was heading to BMC.

"Wannabe's, havebeen's and knowitalls." So your 'anonymous opinion' is that other posters hide behind their anonymous identities and can be described by the previous three terms. Classy assessment as that describes all of cyberspace, a vast uncharted region that streches to infinity and beyond. Good to hear someone say Cadel isn't a hero. Also seems you haven't elevated onto the pedestal many other have. Very few heroes ride bikes for a living.

New topic. Who thinks after the TDU announcement we'll see some new editions to Cadels racing calender? Maybe the Giro, as a lot here hoped, is now on the menu and he could take a serious crack. I'd like to see it, but don't know what to think with Evans. I was positive he wouldn't race the TDU. Would he really foresake the Giro as a GC ambition, where BMC have an invite, to cling to the hope of a Tour invite?

I'm over it. I knew. I chose not to say, would have spoilt the fun of what was a good thread.

As far as what he is doing for next season I know as much as you at the moment; or do I.;)
 
Alpe d'Huez said:
Even if we look at the 1979 Tour, which had a whopping 310km of TT distances spread out over five stages (plus a prologue), I don't see it either.

Of note: 1979 did have a few tough mountain stages as well; going up Alpe d'Huez twice. Plus it raced over pavé to Roubaix. And in case anyone is curious, Hinault won by 13 minutes over Zoetemelk, and an astounding 26 minutes over Joaquim Agostinho in third. So, you can see why perhaps when people talk about a modern GT being epic/brutal/insane I often scoff.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/2...-Tour-de-France-and-Cadel-Evans-part-one.aspx
 
Mar 11, 2009
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Even if we look at the 1979 Tour, which had a whopping 310km of TT distances spread out over five stages (plus a prologue), I don't see it either.

Of note: 1979 did have a few tough mountain stages as well; going up Alpe d'Huez twice. Plus it raced over pavé to Roubaix. And in case anyone is curious, Hinault won by 13 minutes over Zoetemelk, and an astounding 26 minutes over Joaquim Agostinho in third. So, you can see why perhaps when people talk about a modern GT being epic/brutal/insane I often scoff.

Zoetemelk got a 10 minute penalty after a positive test in 1979, so you'll need another example :)
 

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