Caisse puts Piti on non-active status

[usedtobefast]

he got second today. amazing.

 

[craig1985]

There must of been a lack of communication between Piti's team managers, Piti himself, and the UCI.

 

[skidmark]

Sorry, but your timeline is simply way off.

UCI press release August 2007.


The reason it wasn't "initiated sooner" is because the RFEC refused to sanction Valverde, which is why the UCI & WADA took their case to CAS.

I thought the UCI attempt to sanction Valverde in 2007 was separate from the attempt of CONI. I also thought that Puerto had been closed after the attempt to suspend him in 2007, and then reopened again before he was tested in 2008 by the Italians. I'm not clear from this press release if I was incorrect in either of these assumptions. When talking about it not being 'initiated sooner', I meant the latter action, by the Italians. I didn't think that, as you imply, the actions of CONI were dictated by this 2007 attempt of the UCI to suspend him. Were they? I'm confused. Either way, that's why I was talking about 2009, I was thinking of the CONI action.

Regardless, I do understand the larger frustration that 'they haven't been able to nail this guy because of a corrupt federation etc', and can see how the continued delays must be annoying for those who believe that justice is fair and thirst for it in this case. I just don't really feel those frustrations myself.

 

[JuandeBapos]

I'm a bit lost now.... Wasn't he going to be suspended following the latest CAS ruling??!!

 

[Ferminal]

I'm a bit lost now.... Wasn't he going to be suspended following the latest CAS ruling??!!

The latest CAS ruling upheld his ban from racing in Italy.

I think we are still waiting judgement in the second case, which will decide whether or not the UCI/WADA are allowed to extend his ban. I thought this was imminent though.

 

[usedtobefast]

anyone besides me wonder how this is really going down. i just think the behind the scenes action must be massive. if the UCI do ban him,what then?
or if they don't? oh the drama, and he is still winning races.

 

[Ripper]

Can someone ban this f*cker and boot him out of any more races? Good grief, it's like by the time they ban him, he'll only have 3 days to serve before he can race again

It would be somewhat 'amusing' if he received his ban while in the middle of leading a race (perhaps DL).

 

[fridadesai]

hiii

Though I think it will hurt him from a negotiating standpoint (with the eminent demise of Caisse), especially if the rumors that Alfonso and Bank of Santander are setting up team (though it would smooth the way for AC to move over without much drama).



Best Attorney

 

[craig1985]

Ryder Hesjedal's view of it:

"For sure, it’s frustrating but we still have to go out and race Valverde. It’s not something I really like to think about, but at the same time it’s not really something that gets me excited or motivated.

 

[pedaling squares]

Ryder Hesjedal's view of it:

"For sure, it’s frustrating but we still have to go out and race Valverde. It’s not something I really like to think about, but at the same time it’s not really something that gets me excited or motivated.

Wow, someone with the cojones to talk about it, even if it's kind of talking around it.

 

[craig1985]

Wow, someone with the cojones to talk about it, even if it's kind of talking around it.

I think it is pretty much as close/subtle as a rider will get to saying that they think it is a load of crap Piti is allowed to race.

 

[blaxland]

I think it is pretty much as close/subtle as a rider will get to saying that they think it is a load of crap Piti is allowed to race.

+1 agree....This case,The spanish cycling federation and Valverde himself are destroying what credentials The Uci has left and killing our sport....just ban the guy for life..................story over...lets make an example of him....now lets get back to racing..

 

[JPM London]

Just reading that Piti might not make it to Maastricht in time for Amstel due to the volcanic ashes... Maybe nature is working on some sort of ban?

 

[ElChingon]

Update

Well he's still racing minus one Icelandic Volcano he'd be at Amstel.

What? Well this goes to prove the UCI is as powerful and as asertive and applies its rules with the upmost stupidity. The governing body is still looking over the data, has it changed since the pseudo ban? Nope just the days keep ticking by.

Meanwhile Valverde is laughing it up, I hope he gets to do the Tour for that big F-U to the UCI, I'm sure ASO will step in though but still, Leige-Bastone-Leige for three?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I'm not really sure why the UCI haven't banned him after the CONI ban was ratified. Their own charter allows for it.

The second case is UCI vs. RFEC, which theoretically doesn't involve Valverde himself, but it's about RFEC not opening up an investigation against the Murcian. This is why, at present, Valverde can only be banned until May 11, 2011 or thereabouts. If the UCI win the case, then that doesn't mean that Valverde will therefore be banned, only that RFEC must open an investigation of him. If, as has been reported and denied and shown and repeated and obscured and so forth repeatedly, the Spanish legal system has closed the case (I don't know about the legal system side of it) then RFEC will not have any access to any new evidence that they didn't have back in 2006-7, and so I wouldn't be surprised if they exonerated Valverde again (while we're on the subject of corrupt federations exonerating stars, how many times has João Cabreira gotten away with it?!), and thus no fresh two-year ban could be forthcoming.

 

[craig1985]

I tend to agree with elapid on this, you can't ban Valverde and not touch the rest. Why don't the Italians go after Contador? He rode the 2008 Giro, and won, FFS.

 

[python]

I tend to agree with elapid on this, you can't ban Valverde and not touch the rest. Why don't the Italians go after Contador? He rode the 2008 Giro, and won, FFS.

may be because they knew that going empty-handed after someone would make them look stupid ?

 

[craig1985]

Isn't that what they have done with Valverde? Sorry, I'm not feeling well ATM, so if you can please explain.

 

[python]

the explanation is on you, not me, as it's you who wants contador tried.

explain why and please lay down the evidence for all to see. as to the evidence re. valverde, read several threads here. or do yourself a favour and read the full 47 page cas ruling. it has plenty and i don't need to add more.

 

[Ferminal]

Isn't that what they have done with Valverde? Sorry, I'm not feeling well ATM, so if you can please explain.

I don't think CONI have matched Bertie's blood to OPbags yet?

 

[luckyboy]

I don't think CONI have matched Bertie's blood to OPbags yet?

CONI has never had the 'AC' bags though, if I'm not mistaken. They got Piti's bags by phoning up when the judge was on holiday.

 

[Bala Verde]

with 20% unemployment in Spain, I bet they are thinking it's not the best time now to add to the pool of the unemployed...

they'll get there. Slowly. Eventually...., gradually.

some day.

perhaps.

manana manana.

in sha allah.

 

[Cobblestones]

Once Valv/Piti does his time, I'll revert to Valverde just as I've stopped using Birillo or Hijo Rudicio.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Once Valv/Piti does his time, I'll revert to Valverde just as I've stopped using Birillo or Hijo Rudicio.

How about 'Amigo de Birillo'? Or is that one of those that got away considering people (not you, necessarily) seem to conveniently forget about it?

 

[issoisso]

How about 'Amigo de Birillo'? Or is that one of those that got away considering people (not you, necessarily) seem to conveniently forget about it?

I still think it's Gustov and that Schleck and Lombardi had different codenames.