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Cancellara and his giant ego

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Mar 18, 2009
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Amsterhammer said:
Oh come on, man. You don't seriously think that L-L is seen by any of the serious contenders as being one of 'them'? Evans is, that's the difference.

I didn't make the 'unwritten laws' of the peloton up. The point I made was expressed by every ex-pro that I've heard commentating.

I said Sanchez was an outside chance. But look at Periero in 2006. Give an outsider a chance and he may just grab it with open arms.

My point about the Cadel break is that Cadel made the break and Cancellara and the others joined him. Cancellara did not need his hissy fit to shut the break down. If he joined the break to shut Evans down, then he should have just done that without the histrionics. If he joined the break to make a successful break, then he chose the wrong break and that was his fault.

The break may have been doomed, but similar breaks have worked for the likes of Merckx and Landis. Rare, but Cadel still had to give it a go. As far as every ex-pro talking about the unwritten laws, current pros like Lance would disagree with them.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Amsterhammer said:
No!

It had everything to do with Evans breaking one of the 'unwritten laws' of the peloton, that GC riders are not 'tolerated' in breakaways of lesser Gods. Evans knew damn well that he had no business being in that early breakaway because there was no way any of the controlling teams would let him get away and build up a lead, so the efforts of all the others would be doomed to quick failure as long as he was there. He knew this, he shouldn't have wasted his energy. Silly Cadel.

No?! Are you serious?....maybe you need to have a look at the footage from the stage again. Cancellara, Hincapie et al.... rode across to Cadels group. You're right about the ridiculous unwritten rule, but they joined him, not the other way around The group was doomed once those riders came across because the wouldn't work with him. Not his fault for having a go....more than can be said for the rest of the GC riders so far. So you'd suggest that he should have just followed wheels all day then? Then you'd be blowin-up because he didn't do anything.
 
Jun 20, 2009
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The Badger comes out in support of Evans against Cancellara

A great interview with Bernard Hinault by Rupert Guinness in today's SMH.

The badger completely supported Evan's efforts in instigating the Stage 8 breakaway and had some choice words for Cancellara and Hincapie:

"They should leave. It's not them who pay him. He is paid to race. There is no question. If that annoys them, they should stay at home," Hinault said.

"I have always said that someone who wants to attack should attack. And then after we will see. He tried. That's his role. He is leader of a team.

"He is not there to follows others. He is there to seize occasions to make them hurt."


The full interview here: http://bit.ly/yBKYb
 
Jun 16, 2009
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The Colnago Kid said:
A great interview with Bernard Hinault by Rupert Guinness in today's SMH.

The badger completely supported Evan's efforts in instigating the Stage 8 breakaway and had some choice words for Cancellara and Hincapie:

"They should leave. It's not them who pay him. He is paid to race. There is no question. If that annoys them, they should stay at home," Hinault said.

"I have always said that someone who wants to attack should attack. And then after we will see. He tried. That's his role. He is leader of a team.

"He is not there to follows others. He is there to seize occasions to make them hurt."


The full interview here: http://bit.ly/yBKYb

Never cared so much for the Badger
until now.
none of this GC riders don't go in breaks bs.
 
Jul 14, 2009
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best post here

Out of curiosity I looked here to find a very pleasant surprise,there really is not much to Cancelara's ego. The guy is great.I guess Brits get a free pass.Cav's comments should have put his name in this thread someplace.The race is getting better.
 
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The Colnago Kid said:
A great interview with Bernard Hinault by Rupert Guinness in today's SMH.

The badger completely supported Evan's efforts in instigating the Stage 8 breakaway and had some choice words for Cancellara and Hincapie:

"They should leave. It's not them who pay him. He is paid to race. There is no question. If that annoys them, they should stay at home," Hinault said.

"I have always said that someone who wants to attack should attack. And then after we will see. He tried. That's his role. He is leader of a team.

"He is not there to follows others. He is there to seize occasions to make them hurt."


The full interview here: http://bit.ly/yBKYb
Cadel has every right to attack... and FC can't tell him what he can and can't do. A Schleck got into an early break but he dropped out of it. CAdel had to attack that day because he has to attack and catch the GC guys off guard.
Verbier should be intersting as many like Evans, Sastre, Schleck need to attack and Armstrong, Wiggins + Nocentini will be tested to the max if they can keep up with the guys who have the big accleration as those guys haven't proved themselves that they are going to be able to keep up. Verbier will make everything clear...
 
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not sure where you get your info bro but Spartacus is a cool cat and a genuine brother of the peloton. Did you know he went out of his way and picked up Vandevelde's garmin computer and gave it to him after Christain's crash. one of the nicest guys in the peloton
 
Mar 18, 2009
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Boeing said:
not sure where you get your info bro but Spartacus is a cool cat and a genuine brother of the peloton. Did you know he went out of his way and picked up Vandevelde's garmin computer and gave it to him after Christain's crash. one of the nicest guys in the peloton

Ah, try watching the stage. Cancellara acted like a petulant child. He has the skills to shut down the break with his riding, he didn't the histrionics. Other than that, he is still one of my favourite riders but best leave his legs to do the talking and not this kind of behaviour.
 
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elapid said:
Ah, try watching the stage. Cancellara acted like a petulant child. He has the skills to shut down the break with his riding, he didn't the histrionics. Other than that, he is still one of my favourite riders but best leave his legs to do the talking and not this kind of behaviour.

I watched the stage. try riding one bro
 
Jul 17, 2009
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Funny thing about this thread is that Cadel has never attacked in his life on the road or Mtn bike and cant He made an effort this year but hardly an attack
 
Mar 18, 2009
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Boeing said:
Funny thing about this thread is that Cadel has never attacked in his life on the road or Mtn bike and cant He made an effort this year but hardly an attack

At least he has made a boring tour interesting here and there....I don't see any of the others having much more of a go....but that's right, they can all attack and Evans can't.:rolleyes:
 
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Boeing said:
Funny thing about this thread is that Cadel has never attacked in his life on the road or Mtn bike and cant He made an effort this year but hardly an attack
You don't have to get a big lead to be classed as an attack, so he didn't get 19 secs on everyone in Andorra but he was the first to attack.
So you have raced a stage or two, big deal, if you think Cadel has never attacked then you are kidding yourself. I guess if you are in the grupetto you don't see much.;)
 
Jun 16, 2009
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Boeing said:
Funny thing about this thread is that Cadel has never attacked in his life on the road or Mtn bike and cant He made an effort this year but hardly an attack

Boeing.....clearly you haven't watched much pro-tour racing nor can you have much of an understanding of it, other wise you'd have a much greater appreciation for the racing and what it requires. I'm pretty sure it's a fair bit tougher than sitting in an arm-chair giving a half arsed critique ;)
 
Mar 18, 2009
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Boeing said:
I watched the stage. try riding one bro

Mate, you asked about where we got the information on Cancellara. I replied appropriately. No need to give me this BS. If I was good enough to be a pro, I would have been. I am not, but I love cycling and riding my bike. How good I am on the bike doesn't affect my ability to see what is going on or mean that I am not allowed to post comments. Nor does it mean that your comments are superior to mine because you can ride a bike better than me.

It also doesn't matter how nice Cancellara is. Plenty of nice people have done stupid things ... Tyler Hamilton, Floyd Landis.
 
Jun 20, 2009
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Just because you make it up doesn't mean people will believe you

Boeing said:
Funny thing about this thread is that Cadel has never attacked in his life on the road or Mtn bike and cant He made an effort this year but hardly an attack

Never is a mighty long time. But even the casual cycling observer would remember Stage 16 of the 2005 Tour.
 
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Nor does it mean that your comments are superior to mine because you can a better bike than me..

oh it does ;)

means people are a better rider as well if theyve got a posh bike.. :D

The Colnago Kid said:
Never is a mighty long time. But even the casual cycling observer would remember Stage 16 of the 2005 Tour.

i missed it.. cadel attacked and i missed it. :D when is the next one due..?
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Have a look at the Dauphine this year. Might be a pleasant surprise to those who think Evans is a perpetual wheel sucker.

Unfortunately Cadel's one of those riders who's damned if he does, and damned if he doesnt.
 
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Thoughtforfood said:
I hear what you are saying, but the attack was stupid.
might be stupid, but because no one thinks you can do it that way, it has an element of "no way it can work" to fool the peloton, if they are not perfectly vigilant. Lets face it, he has to throw everything to the wind. He cant win, if it does not turn into a 2006 Landis.
 
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might be stupid, but because no one thinks you can do it that way, it has an element of "no way it can work" to fool the peloton, if they are not perfectly vigilant. Lets face it, he has to throw everything to the wind. He cant win, if it does not turn into a 2006 Landis.

You know what, I wrote that before the mind numbing bullshit stages of last week and I retract what I said. He showed balls nobody else has shown, and I for one wish him well tomorrow and in the week to come. That is not sarcastic in any way. I cannot stand the wimpy manner Astana have "controlled" the race, and I cannot stand the crappy paracours ASO put together. Anybody that tried to do something is one of the few. Go Cadel!
 
Thoughtforfood said:
You know what, I wrote that before the mind numbing bullshit stages of last week and I retract what I said. He showed balls nobody else has shown, and I for one wish him well tomorrow and in the week to come. That is not sarcastic in any way. I cannot stand the wimpy manner Astana have "controlled" the race, and I cannot stand the crappy paracours ASO put together. Anybody that tried to do something is one of the few. Go Cadel!

+1 to that. Even though he does not have much of a chance, he was the only one who tried something. I hope he and his team can hot it up on the lower slopes of the Verbier.

I also hope Evans rides the Vuelta.
 
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unsheath said:
Have a look at the Dauphine this year. Might be a pleasant surprise to those who think Evans is a perpetual wheel sucker.

Unfortunately Cadel's one of those riders who's damned if he does, and damned if he doesnt.
yeah, no one here saw 2005 Liege, St Nicklaus, how many riders can attack there? Virtually no GC riders, bar Valverde have had that record.