Can't wait for the "Dirty Laudry" to come out!!

[slimkay]

Wow... this is really amazing if true. Doesn't surprise me about LA but the Hog should have been all over that. He will regret it next year.. unless he doesn't allow AC out of his contract.

I assume you know how biased Spanish Media are regarding their own athletes?

I'd find this more believable if it were coming from English or French Media.

 

[BroDeal]

Wow... this is really amazing if true. Doesn't surprise me about LA but the Hog should have been all over that. He will regret it next year.. unless he doesn't allow AC out of his contract.

It does not surprise me at all. Armstrong and Bruyneel are scum. Even if Contador was taken out of the race, Armstrong still could not have beaten Andy Schleck, so you have to conclude he was doing this out of pure spite and meanness.

Contador should use instances like this to break his contract with Bruyneel. He undoubted signed on not just for the money but also for the support in races and the opportunity to win, which would bring endorsement money and a higher future salary. Incidents like the one above show that Contador cannot rely on a Bruyneel run team to provide him with the non-monetary parts of the deal he made.

 

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I assume you know how biased Spanish Media are regarding their own athletes?

I'd find this more believable if it were coming from English or French Media.

You gotta admit it is gonna make for some interesting back in forth in the media for some time.

Next up: Contador was physically battered by Armstrong's personal trainer, in disguise as the team trainer.

 

[krebs303]

I assume you know how biased Spanish Media are regarding their own athletes?

I'd find this more believable if it were coming from English or French Media.

yeah no bias there:

Lance Armstrong Loses the Tour De France

http://flavorwire.com/30746/lance-armstrong-loses-the-tour-de-france-contador-team-radioshack

 

[Cobber]

It does not surprise me at all. Armstrong and Bruyneel are scum. Even if Contador was taken out of the race, Armstrong still could not have beaten Andy Schleck, so you have to conclude he was doing this out of pure spite and meanness.

Contador should use instances like this to break his contract with Bruyneel. He undoubted signed on not just for the money but also for the support in races and the opportunity to win, which would bring endorsement money and a higher future salary. Incidents like the one above show that Contador cannot rely on a Bruyneel run team to provide him with the non-monetary parts of the deal he made.

That is exactly why I thought the Hog should have put a stop to it. I mean, if AC didn't make it to the start in time for his ITT, he may have lost the race. I know LA and Bruyneel are extremely close..... but I didn't think he would jeapordise an overall TdF win for the sake of his evil twin!

 

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Contador was the last to go that day. I doubt he was in much of a stress to make it there.

 

[hfer07]

pure class- even when he is entitled to spit the dirt out- he remains prudent and a professional- here is a link of the latest "post-tour" interview (in Spanish)
http://www.rtve.es/deportes/ciclismo/tour-francia/

 

[richwagmn]

pure class- even when he is entitled to spit the dirt out- he remains prudent and a professional- here is a link of the latest "post-tour" interview (in Spanish)
http://www.rtve.es/deportes/ciclismo/tour-francia/

Can you summarize?

 

[hfer07]

Can you summarize?

summarizing

Rtve.es= you told us that you also had to win the race “inside the Hotel”-now that the race is done-tell us- which has been the most difficult part/moment of being around Lance Armstrong?
Alberto Contador=well- it wasn’t a “day to day thing"(doubly)- perhaps the communication between us was none, and the daily gathering therefore was complicated, but it was even more for our teammates and the staff in between which found themselves difficult how to position (which side to choose)
Rtve.es=Did you ever feel left alone inside Astana?
Alberto Contador= Well-there were some days when I did not feel totally accompanied by my team–but I always had aside me a group of confidents, that always supported me constantly when I wasn’t enthusiastic at all, and raised my morale- but little by little, the road was setting the race clear- and now – here we are celebrating…
Rtve.es= Now facing the future- Lance changes team, so Bruyneel is, -what is your future? – there is a rumor of Fernando Alonso’s new Team, there is a rumor of “Asturinan riders team” tell us what do you have in mind?
Alberto Contador=there are many possibilities to choose from- either a team already set or even a new project, but now there are questions out there about “sponsorship”, but first “I have to resolve my contract situation with Astana” but I’ll make sure that next year I’ll have a team that will back me up 100%

 

[Bagster]

Contador said in an interview:

Q: Have you decided what you will do in 2010?

AC: What’s sure is that I will have a lot of hassle to see what will be my future. For sure, it will be on a different team than Lance. We’ll see what we can do, whether it’s a new team or find a team that is 100 percent behind me to confront this race to win it again.

That pretty much says it...unless he can't get out of his contract with Bruyneel.

He won't have a contract with Bruyneel because Bruyneel will be leaving as well to go to Radioshack

 

[Bagster]

Some excerpts translated:

"A Tale of solitude. It happened on Thursday, a few hours before the Annecy ITT. Contador came downstairs to the entrance of the Palace of Menthon, the luxurious Astana hotel. The Tour was on. He looked right, then left. Nobody, nothing. No Astana cars or helpers. Cold sweat. Quick time check. Where are they? The hotel is several kilometers from the start. There he was, the leader of the Tour, in flip-flops, bag in hand and alone. He went to the hall looking for an answer: Armstrong had ordered the helpers to go pick up his wife, kids and friends to the airport.
Contador left his room last because he was the last one starting the ITT. Armstrong had managed to take away his means of transportation. The straw that broke the camel's back. Hot flashes, he was rabid. He called his brother Fran. He came to pick him up by car and took him to Annecy in a private vehicle. He left last and finished first. His best victory. In the ITT. In solitude. The same way he has won his second tour.

Contador's toughest climb was not recorded in images. It was narrated by others. It was fought in the hotel and the bus: during one stage, Armstrong sat his guests at the very back of the bus, right in Contador's usual seat. One more provocation. Armstrong to the luxury suite. Contador to sleep with Paulinho, the only ally. Same deal during the entire tour. Mouth shut, listening to Armstrong's jabs: "It doesn't take a Nobel price to figure out what happens with side winds". Contador didn't reply in the hotel. He did on the road. He attacked in the first mountain finish in Arcalis. Without permission from Bruyneel, Armstrong's DS. That night the Astana hotel was a funeral. Red eyes from the Texan (anger? crying? not sure). The first cyclist that stood up to him. And he did it in silence."

Man thats a sad tale, I almost feel like crying myself, poor Alberto. I hope he had his picnic basket covered when he left the hotel just in case of the big bad wolf. Pathetic

 

[Bagster]

It does not surprise me at all. Armstrong and Bruyneel are scum. Even if Contador was taken out of the race, Armstrong still could not have beaten Andy Schleck, so you have to conclude he was doing this out of pure spite and meanness.

Yeah that Armstrong is such a meanie What is worse than posters not focusing on the issues?? People who take pleasure in slagging off riders in the sport. You must be really relieved that Armstrong came third and not second. He did kick Franks **** however, that cheeky old man. Of course he probably said something nasty to Frank on the climb to Ventoux, like "I'm gonna beat you today Frank!" That probably scared Frank and Wiggo who may have been in hearing distance into not attacking.

Contador should use instances like this to break his contract with Bruyneel. He undoubted signed on not just for the money but also for the support in races and the opportunity to win, which would bring endorsement money and a higher future salary. Incidents like the one above show that Contador cannot rely on a Bruyneel run team to provide him with the non-monetary parts of the deal he made.

Well given that Bruyneel won't be with Astana next year it probably won't be an issue.

 

[BroDeal]

What is worse than posters not focusing on the issues?? People who take pleasure in slagging off riders in the sport.

Nope, posters who enjoy slagging off other posters for daring to post an opinion are definitely worse.

Well given that Bruyneel won't be with Astana next year it probably won't be an issue.

Given that Contador's contract is with Olympus, a Bruyneel owned cycling management company, then it might be a problem. Don't let the facts get in the way of insulting other posters, though.

 

[saphblue]

I'm still waiting for Lance's x wife to write a book...I suppose when the kids are grown....

I know someone who is an entertainment reporter in LA. She's talked off the record with Sheryl Crow a couple of times and lets just say that she definitely has some issues with the man. But publicly she hasn't said anything negative about him. It must have been tough for her to read that Lance aired their own "dirty laundry" in his book by placing the blame for the breakup on her wanting kids. Gotta be tough to be in her shoes since it doesn't do any good to respond to that kind of stuff in public.

If those stories about the hotel and transport regarding Alberto are true, it's pretty pathetic. If LA and JB want to rip him a new one because of his attack, fine. But, that other petty BS is ridiculously unprofessional.

 

[Dedelou]

I assume you know how biased Spanish Media are regarding their own athletes?

I'd find this more believable if it were coming from English or French Media.

Considering that media and biased are synonymous, I am sure you rather listen to senile phill and the other mister pill for a slice of the "truth”. I am sure, I read in the French press how difficult if was for Contador to get any services from his team. Starting early on when they tried to drop him and then called inexperienced for expecting what was due to him. Funny how the same whiners cried "traitor" when they got a "small" sample of their own medicine in the hills... lance is lucky that Condator never really saw him as a serious threat, or else in third place or not it would have been with a humbling deficit close or above 10 minutes. As it was, most of the time, for Contador is was "tour de wait" Wait! Contador waited because I am sure that financially it would not have paid to "humiliate" the cash cows. In some ways, how he was treated will be his lawyer's best argument to secure a more advantageous contract termination. The performance spoke much louder in any case and those who saw Contador ride will agree: He would have been a formidable opponent for lance any of the 7 years.

 

[TRDean]

Typical of you to scoff, possibly because of the rather unusual user name, but the point he's actually making is spot on. Yet again proving that the hateboy community just loves to dish it out, but can't take it if anything comes back.

Amster....what the heck is your problem dude? Chill out...you are the angry school boy around here. Maybe take some of your own advice eh? Not everybody need an old fart like you to stick up for them. Jeez!!

 

[Amsterhammer]

Amster....what the heck is your problem dude? Chill out...you are the angry school boy around here. Maybe take some of your own advice eh? Not everybody need an old fart like you to stick up for them. Jeez!!

I see someone has taught you the art of selective out of context quoting. How about being honest instead?

The original post being referred to -

Originally Posted by Hugh Januss
"Yeah, the f#(k!ng worthless piece of (rap 3 1/2 years of vacation and he drops 2 whole steps onthe podium. He should kill himself. Or maybe he should just go sit on the beach in the off season and quit wasting time on that stupid cancer fund raising thing. That way he wouldn't be any different than any of the other cheating frauds, and so he wouldn't feel your excusive hatred. Which I am sure he doesn't anyway, but, just saying."


A rather obviously sarcastic comment about the some of the extreme anti-LA 'opinions' voiced here, wouldn't you say?

To which Animal replied -

Originally Posted by Animal
Do we have The Return of JackHammer?

Fun for all the family.


This is clearly an allusion to certain events regarding jackhammer that we don't need to rehash here. This cretin's subsequent post proves the point, when he asks if I'm going to come kill his family. Hence my still restrained reply which you quoted entirely out of its context. Yes, it bothers this old fart when people, in this case 'Animal', post gross stupidity that is beyond the pale. This also has nothing to do with his opinion of LA, it it entirely to do with the absurd nature of his reaction to the post he quoted.

I am totally chilled, dude. You worry about someone with paranoid delusions instead. In fact, this would have stayed dead and buried if you hadn't brought it up.

 

[TRDean]

I see someone has taught you the art of selective out of context quoting. How about being honest instead?

The original post being referred to -

Originally Posted by Hugh Januss
"Yeah, the f#(k!ng worthless piece of (rap 3 1/2 years of vacation and he drops 2 whole steps onthe podium. He should kill himself. Or maybe he should just go sit on the beach in the off season and quit wasting time on that stupid cancer fund raising thing. That way he wouldn't be any different than any of the other cheating frauds, and so he wouldn't feel your excusive hatred. Which I am sure he doesn't anyway, but, just saying."


A rather obviously sarcastic comment about the some of the extreme anti-LA 'opinions' voiced here, wouldn't you say?

To which Animal replied -

Originally Posted by Animal
Do we have The Return of JackHammer?

Fun for all the family.


This is clearly an allusion to certain events regarding jackhammer that we don't need to rehash here. This cretin's subsequent post proves the point, when he asks if I'm going to come kill his family. Hence my still restrained reply which you quoted entirely out of its context. Yes, it bothers this old fart when people, in this case 'Animal', post gross stupidity that is beyond the pale. This also has nothing to do with his opinion of LA, it it entirely to do with the absurd nature of his reaction to the post he quoted.

I am totally chilled, dude. You worry about someone with paranoid delusions instead. In fact, this would have stayed dead and buried if you hadn't brought it up.

I brought it up again cause I am sick of your painting people into corners...attacking them...and then going into your "im an old fart" mentality. You sound like LA himself!!

I'll pay attention to whomever I want by the way. Maybe you will now paint me into a corner of your pretty world.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I brought it up again cause I am sick of your painting people into corners...attacking them...and then going into your "im an old fart" mentality. You sound like LA himself!!

You would be wiser to be sick about someone who makes posts wondering if another poster on an internet forum is going to come and kill his family. I'd say that's in a rather different ballpark of seriousness. I only mentioned 'old fart' because you did. I am young at heart.

 

[TRDean]

You would be wiser to be sick about someone who makes posts wondering if another poster on an internet forum is going to come and kill his family. I'd say that's in a rather different ballpark of seriousness. I only mentioned 'old fart' because you did. I am young at heart.

Yes that is true...my family is everything to me...I am assuming you are referring to jackhammer? He actually sent me a private notification with that sort of meaning...oh well.

 

[BroDeal]

Yes that is true...my family is everything to me...I am assuming you are referring to jackhammer? He actually sent me a private notification with that sort of meaning...oh well.

You too? How many people did that guy threaten?

 

[Hugh Januss]

That JACKHAMMER guy seemed OK at first, but you guys drove him seriously crazy. If as they say we should treat this place as a bar where we all get together I'm afaid he would have cut up a lot of folks with his broken beer bottle before he was subdued. On another note the moderator has told me I have to change my user name, I can't understand why but there you go. Since hammers seem popular I thought maybe I would just change around that one above but then I figured they might have a problem with HAMJACKER too. Maybe you guys can help me and make some suggestions for a new name?

 

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Make your username in reverse.

 

[Hugh Januss]

You mean JAN HUGHUSS I thought of that but was afraid folks would think I was a Jan Ullrich fanboy.

 

[Amsterhammer]

Shame about having to change your moniker, I thought it was pretty clever and amusing.

Final clarification re: the previous page - Animal asked me if I was going to come kill his family. That was completely out of order.