Cavendish to Sky Confirmed?

[hfer07]

let's cut the sh!t: We kind of knew that Cav was going to go to Sky sooner or later-BUT- what bothers me is the rationale behind Sky getting Uran & next year Henao to help Wiggins-if all of that is going to be thrown to the trash when Cav gets to "shape" the team to his needs?

 

[Anonymous]

Or am I just reading too much into this Oakley advert? Sky and Cav both being Oakley adverts themselves? Is this UK specific or are forum users from other countries getting this on their home page also?

But yes, possibly reading too much into it. It is a UK competition.

let's cut the sh!t: We kind of knew that Cav was going to go to Sky sooner or later-BUT- what bothers me is the rationale behind Sky getting Uran & next year Henao to help Wiggins-if all of that is going to be thrown to the trash when Cav gets to "shape" the team to his needs?

Dont think Henao and Uran are there to be domestiques for Wiggins somehow.

Theres 3 GT's a year. The focus in the tour will switch to stage wins and green jersey, while the focus in the giro/vuelta will be overall and development, until such a time that Henao, Uran, Kennaugh etc are ready to try and challenge in the Tour, by which time Cav will be heading towards 30 anyway.

 

[The_Z_man]

Sorry if it's been mentioned here before, but one piece of circumstantial evidence that this might be true is that there has been no announcement of a co-sponsor for HTC-Highroad.

You'd think that Cav would be a great selling point for the team. "Hey think of all the free publicity you'll get when the Manxman's jersey is splashed all over the front pages when he wins 5 stages in the tour." If they can't say he will be there, it's going to be tougher to get companies to put up the money.

 

[Boardslide]

Sorry if it's been mentioned here before, but one piece of circumstantial evidence that this might be true is that there has been no announcement of a co-sponsor for HTC-Highroad.

You'd think that Cav would be a great selling point for the team. "Hey think of all the free publicity you'll get when the Manxman's jersey is splashed all over the front pages when he wins 5 stages in the tour." If they can't say he will be there, it's going to be tougher to get companies to put up the money.

HTC usually wait until the TDF preview event to announce any new sponsers & show off their tour jersey

 

[Dalakhani]

My understanding - from a post by another member a few months ago - was that Wiggins will skip next year's TdF. (Thomas also?)

What will Cav's plans be? To do what he did 3 years ago and drop out during the race?

What sort of team would Sky be left with? One that's just going through the motions for the 2nd half of the race?

I'm neither a Cav fan or a Sky fan, but I think it would be interesting to see what they do with him and how much he misses his current team mates.

Steve

PS Wiggo earning double what Cav earns? That's a poor bit of business by Sky, IMO. Surely Cav's far, far more bankable? Big white teeth, page 3 girlfriend...

 

[Mambo95]

My understanding - from a post by another member a few months ago - was that Wiggins will skip next year's TdF. (Thomas also?)

What will Cav's plans be? To do what he did 3 years ago and drop out during the race?

What sort of team would Sky be left with? One that's just going through the motions for the 2nd half of the race?

I'm neither a Cav fan or a Sky fan, but I think it would be interesting to see what they do with him and how much he misses his current team mates.

Steve

PS Wiggo earning double what Cav earns? That's a poor bit of business by Sky, IMO. Surely Cav's far, far more bankable? Big white teeth, page 3 girlfriend...

Why would Cavendish drop out? He'll be doing the Road Race in the Olympics, not the madison, so the Tour's the best training he'll get. Sanchez came 6th in the 2008 Tour.

I'm also dubious as to whether Wiggins will miss the Tour. Much will depend on how he goes this year.

(And who says Wiggins will be earning twice as much? He won't. He'll be earning less.)

 

[Dalakhani]

Why would Cavendish drop out? He'll be doing the Road Race in the Olympics, not the madison, so the Tour's the best training he'll get. Sanchez came 6th in the 2008 Tour.

It could be argued that as Sanchez climbs better, he suffers less over the mountains. And would, therefore, recover faster.

(And who says Wiggins will be earning twice as much? He won't. He'll be earning less.)

According to the article quoted in the first post, Cavendish's salary would be doubled and that would make it equal to Wiggins'.

Given it's the Daily Mail, who knows if that's true. But if it is, and Wiggins earns double what Cav earns, it seems a mis-pricing in the market to me. (Two mis-pricings, perhaps - one far over-paid, the other underpaid.)

Steve

 

[euanli]

If Cav can win the final stage of the TDF and then win the points jersey at the Vuelta then I'm sure he doesn't need to worry about recovery for the Olympics

 

[Mambo95]

It could be argued that as Sanchez climbs better, he suffers less over the mountains. And would, therefore, recover faster.

It just means he's a better climber. Cancellara got silver (third on the day). He'd also done the Tour. He's not a climber.

According to the article quoted in the first post, Cavendish's salary would be doubled and that would make it equal to Wiggins'.

Given it's the Daily Mail, who knows if that's true. But if it is, and Wiggins earns double what Cav earns, it seems a mis-pricing in the market to me. (Two mis-pricings, perhaps - one far over-paid, the other underpaid.)

Steve

It's hardly Sky's fault that Cav was underpaid at HTC (who are known to underpay established riders). The real figures are rumour to be Cav E1.5m + bonuses, Wiggins E1m - which is about right. The article only says 'on a par', which is just standard journlist filler.

 

[hfer07]

Dont think Henao and Uran are there to be domestiques for Wiggins somehow.

Theres 3 GT's a year. The focus in the tour will switch to stage wins and green jersey, while the focus in the giro/vuelta will be overall and development, until such a time that Henao, Uran, Kennaugh etc are ready to try and challenge in the Tour, by which time Cav will be heading towards 30 anyway.[/quote]

That's a very wishful thought of you, but in reality EVH, Ben Swift, Geraint Thomas with some young Brits are emerging too along with Henao & Uran, and being a British Sponsor team, will you tell me with a straight face that they're going to be set aside to allow the Colombians to become the GT leaders of the team?

 

[Captain_Cavman]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/htc-highroad-searching-for-a-sponsor

HTC won't be announcing a new sponsor before the Tour. Therefore they can't make Cavendish any long term assurances before he can sign with Sky (or anyone else).

The same goes for anyone else on HTC whose contract is up this year. Do we know who they are?

 

[Reverend_T_Preedy]

That's a very wishful thought of you, but in reality EVH, Ben Swift, Geraint Thomas with some young Brits are emerging too along with Henao & Uran, and being a British Sponsor team, will you tell me with a straight face that they're going to be set aside to allow the Colombians to become the GT leaders of the team?

I genuinely think they'll ride for whoever is the best rider. Over the last year and a half, British riders have ridden themselves into the ground to try and get a win for a non-brit. They have ridden for Flecha in the classics even though Thomas and Stannard (Thomas especially) are right up there. They've ridden for Lofkvist at the Giro, Gerrans in the hilly classics, EBH numerous times.

If Uran or Henao are the best bet for a GT win then I would think they'll go for that. If Kennaugh turns out to be better then they'll ride for him. In the classics next year, if EBH stays fit and is the best option I think you'll see Thomas riding his heart out for him.

 

[Winterfold]

Yes, I think they have transcended the nationality thing are looking like a real team - and this is the only way it could work.

If someone who wins for Sky happens to be a Brit then it will be good news in the UK, but Sky is a big company, bigger than the UK. THe win's the thing.

 

[lucybears]

Salvatore Puccio correrá en Sky el próximo año
http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=40300

 

[cleverhans]

Cavendish, the cyclist in pole position...

Mark Cavendish, the cyclist in pole position to win Britain’s first gold medal of the London 2012 Olympics,

Really? Anyone got a course profile, or a link to one?

 

[Andy99]

Really? Anyone got a course profile, or a link to one?

Route;

http://www.london2012.com/documents/venue-documents/cycling-road-race-route.pdf

Generally flat other than circuits of Box Hill; repeated a few times..

 

[Dalakhani]

If Cav can win the final stage of the TDF and then win the points jersey at the Vuelta then I'm sure he doesn't need to worry about recovery for the Olympics

Good point. That pretty much wipes out my argument.

In fact, his twice winning the Champs stage is more than enough evidence in itself!

What was I thinking?

Steve

 

[beefyboy]

Was at the British National Champs yesterday at Stanfordham, Northumberland, and saw a great day's racing. Cav was the only UK HTC rep but, at one point before the race started, emerged from the only team bus present, Team Sky's! I'm sure they were extending a courtesy to him, despite his hilarious Twitter feeds yesterday!

He was fantastic climbing the Ryals hill, leading what was left of the chasers after Bradley and co. Apparently he punctured early on, and it is not a hill/course where you can easily chase back on without any help whatsoever. Good luck to him whatever/wherever he decides to go...

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Was at the British National Champs yesterday at Stanfordham, Northumberland, and saw a great day's racing. Cav was the only UK HTC rep but, at one point before the race started, emerged from the only team bus present, Team Sky's! I'm sure they were extending a courtesy to him, despite his hilarious Twitter feeds yesterday!

He was fantastic climbing the Ryals hill, leading what was left of the chasers after Bradley and co. Apparently he punctured early on, and it is not a hill/course where you can easily chase back on without any help whatsoever. Good luck to him whatever/wherever he decides to go...

No, you must be mistaken. Cav can't even get over a sleeping policeman.

Fair play to the guy for even going. He will have known Sky were going to do a number on him, but he just loves to ride his bike and race.

 

[beefyboy]

No, you must be mistaken. Cav can't even get over a sleeping policeman.

Fair play to the guy for even going. He will have known Sky were going to do a number on him, but he just loves to ride his bike and race.

Believe me - he powered up the steepest part of the climb as if it wasn't there on lap two. Perhaps the team's decision to ride him in the Tour de Suisse did have results!

 

[Anonymous]

Believe me - he powered up the steepest part of the climb as if it wasn't there on lap two. Perhaps the team's decision to ride him in the Tour de Suisse did have results!

I think Cav was fine on the course, it just went wrong for him when he punctured on lap 2. Not having a teammate or teamcar to give him a wheel wasnt the best.

Not sure where he eventually got his wheel from. GB Cycling assumedly.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

No, you must be mistaken. Cav can't even get over a sleeping policeman.
...

Well the year he won Milan-SanRemo he go over the Poggio just fine.

 

[luckyboy]

That's a very wishful thought of you, but in reality EVH, Ben Swift, Geraint Thomas with some young Brits are emerging too along with Henao & Uran, and being a British Sponsor team, will you tell me with a straight face that they're going to be set aside to allow the Colombians to become the GT leaders of the team?

Dont know what they would be thinking going to a GT with Swift, Thomas or EBH as GT leaders

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/htc-highroad-searching-for-a-sponsor

HTC won't be announcing a new sponsor before the Tour. Therefore they can't make Cavendish any long term assurances before he can sign with Sky (or anyone else).

The same goes for anyone else on HTC whose contract is up this year. Do we know who they are?

The team is owned by a billionaire. If they don't get a sponsor, it will go back to Team Highroad and Stapleton will plough some cash in.

 

[Midnightfright]

Dont know what they would be thinking going to a GT with Swift, Thomas or EBH as GT leaders




The team is owned by a billionaire. If they don't get a sponsor, it will go back to Team Highroad and Stapleton will plough some cash in.

And thats Just with the spare change in his back pocket.

 

[Captain_Cavman]

The team is owned by a billionaire. If they don't get a sponsor, it will go back to Team Highroad and Stapleton will plough some cash in.

So Sky make a big offer and Cavendish turns it down because Bob's a billionaire and hopefully will sort it if things don't work out?