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euanli said:I was responding to the comment above where Farrar had "someone crash into him from behind".
Read further back and you will see me saying Cav was following Renshaw's wheel and deviated after contact with the Lampre rider who actually tightens his line. Oscar rides into the back of them and they all come across and hit Hunt who tangles with the Lampre rider
No idea why Cyclingnews are reporting Cav clashed with Hunt.
Check the replay and sort the riders out from that. The rider Cav clashes with ends up flat on his back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5tqtj8roMQ
euanli said:It also looks to me like Farrar deviated from his sprinting line by many meters and then suddenly had an AG2R rider in his back. Lets not call that dangerous sprinting though.
Hairy Wheels said:You're an apologist...lame.
auscyclefan94 said:Cav's dangerous sprinting...what should his punishment be as he has caused many accidents or near accidents. He is a dangerous sprinter. What should the race and/or HTC do with him?
Desperate Moments said:Phil & Paul were commentating earlier in the stage that Cav had a new, very aero, very stiff bike, and it occurred to me that that might have had an effect on his ability (or inability) to make that tight right-hand turn, especially being on the inside. Also, right as Paul mentioned that Tyler looked like he was out of gas near the finish, he was definitely not holding his line. The AG2R guy sure didn't act like he thought HE was the one who had crashed into Tyler.
thehog said:His HTC-Columbia team-mate Tony Martin, who retained second place overall, defended Cavendish's part in the first crash.
"There was a little crash on the last right-hand corner with 1km to go and I think he was just behind it so he had no chance to go for the sprint," said the German.
"Maybe he will be a bit angry but I think that is good - he will get stronger and stronger and we will try again tomorrow."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/mobile/other_sports/cycling/8786916.stm?
pedaling squares said:Seems that anyone who doesn't share your opinion is an apologist. Lame.
Desperate Moments said:Phil & Paul were commentating earlier in the stage that Cav had a new, very aero, very stiff bike, and it occurred to me that that might have had an effect on his ability (or inability) to make that tight right-hand turn, especially being on the inside. Also, right as Paul mentioned that Tyler looked like he was out of gas near the finish, he was definitely not holding his line. The AG2R guy sure didn't act like he thought HE was the one who had crashed into Tyler.
He said Belgian Jurgen Roelandts came crashing into him from behind, pushing him uncontrollably towards the American.
"A rider (Roelandts) hit me from behind. I'm sorry for Farrar, but I couldn't do anything about it," he said.
Hairy Wheels said:Address my response then. You said he was too hot going into the corner...
Dr. Maserati said:As for Cav - I find it despicaple that he was "jeered" by anyone, but in particular by Team Sky Fans.... (not our TSF of course).
bobs *** said:Is there a youtube vid or online video of the overhead of Farrar? From what I saw, he looked like he deviated sharply to his left. It may have happened as a result of some other event, iow, he was just a domino in the middle.
pedaling squares said:I wrote no such thing. You may want to re-read the thread. My comment was simply based on your critique of the writer instead of the opinion. Someone thinking that Cav was not to blame for that crash is not necessarily an apologist, a term which you seem to enjoy using. FWIW, I think that Cav was to blame for that crash. Which may make me a Freire/Hunt apologist. But I don't think that this was an example of reckless riding, just one of those things that happens in a bike race.
Agreed. They probably hated his 'V' salute yet this action has just as little class.
Hairy Wheels said:It turns out you had something to say...no, wait...you just had to say something.
auscyclefan94 said:Cav's dangerous sprinting...what should his punishment be as he has caused many accidents or near accidents. He is a dangerous sprinter. What should the race and/or HTC do with him?