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Cav's Dangerous sprinting.

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Cav's fault 100%. He's a deadset dill. Just rode straight through the corner and took the rest out! Surely a fine is deserved... or maybe a rider strike tomorrow morning on the startline to 'send him a message'!
 
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TeamSkyFans said:
it wasnt a sprinting accident so how can it be classed as dangerous sprinting?

He lost it on a corner, just as many riders have done in the past on corners in leadouts, its a pretty common occurence. Get over it.

edit: oh hello mark by the way *waves*
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Dr. Maserati said:
O dear - go back and look at the video Farrar - he had little to do with it.

Cav got pushed in a corner and lost his line - nothing more to it, trying to bring in "deviated from his sprinting line" is weak - did the comm's throw out Petacchi ? No...

Pettachi deviated when he was 5 metres in front of him. It is a common sprint move. Head butting and leaning on someone is not sprint move. Cav clearly could of lessened the damage as all the people in front of him got through and he leaned into the lampre rider which i think was Bole.
 
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Hairy Wheels said:
Sigh....I just figured out who you are. Can't you just stay on CC?

I don't want to sidetrack this thread further but I have no idea what you are on about. I don't know what CC is; I've never posted on another forum or used another username here if that's what you mean. If you took offence by my calling you out for making personal attacks, my apologies. If you have any questions for me by all means PM and you won't get ignored or flamed. But I won't discuss it further in an open thread.
 

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quick to defend him


Pettachi deviated when he was 5 metres in front of him. It is a common sprint move. Head butting and leaning on someone is not sprint move. Cav clearly could of lessened the damage as all the people in front of him got through and he leaned into the lampre rider which i think was Bole.

Cav was at fault for the crash - he lost his line and then got tangled with the Lampre rider..... a racing incident, nothing more.

How can you see head butting and leaning before the bend - do you have a feed that no-one else has or are you talking about when Cav lost his line using the rider to stay upright?

If its the latter it is obvious you have never raced or been involved in a situation like that - (Cav missed his line probaly because he was close to tangling wheels) - trying to portray it as "dangerous sprinting" is simply wrong.
 
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It was a racing incident in my opinion, sure he may have made a slight stuff up but that's racing.

For the record I can't stand the little pr$%k, and totally laid blame with him for dangerous racing over the Haussler and Hushovd incidents. To give credit where it's due I would say he's a pretty good bike handler when he isn't intentionally being dangerous.
 

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Dr. Maserati said:
Cav was at fault for the crash - he lost his line and then got tangled with the Lampre rider..... a racing incident, nothing more.

How can you see head butting and leaning before the bend - do you have a feed that no-one else has or are you talking about when Cav lost his line using the rider to stay upright?

If its the latter it is obvious you have never raced or been involved in a situation like that - (Cav missed his line probaly because he was close to tangling wheels) - trying to portray it as "dangerous sprinting" is simply wrong.

Agreed, there was no head butting involved (leave that to the Aussies) Cav was merely leaning in, trying to stay upright. It can't be 'dangerous sprinting' because the sprint had not started. What it was, was a tricky corner and a couple of guys got their lines wrong, resulting in a crash, big deal, move on!

Why try to make a big deal over something that happens frequently in bike races, guys getting on a wrong line. even if it was Cav's fault, so what, it's not like it was something he would have wanted to happen. If we are going to try and crucify every guy who causes crashes in this Tour then it's going to be a long three weeks!
 

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Agreed, there was no head butting involved (leave that to the Aussies) Cav was merely leaning in, trying to stay upright. It can't be 'dangerous sprinting' because the sprint had not started. What it was, was a tricky corner and a couple of guys got their lines wrong, resulting in a crash, big deal, move on!

Why try to make a big deal over something that happens frequently in bike races, guys getting on a wrong line. even if it was Cav's fault, so what, it's not like it was something he would have wanted to happen. If we are going to try and crucify every guy who causes crashes in this Tour then it's going to be a long three weeks!
Yip - racing incident.

The only thing worth 'discussing' from this corner (and perhaps the stage)(except the cute doggie) was how the teams got their line in to that corner so wrong.

First stage of a GT means everyone has a 'right' to fight for the win - but Columbia-HTC were at the front and able to dictate the line - and especially when they pride themselves on the details like having someone video the last kilometers so the team can watch it before the stage start.
 

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isn't it possible that Cav is a bit out of sorts after the Tour de Suisse crash and is riding nervous? Looked like someone lacking some confidence through that corner and just blew the line.
 
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SpartacusRox said:
Agreed, there was no head butting involved (leave that to the Aussies) Cav was merely leaning in, trying to stay upright. It can't be 'dangerous sprinting' because the sprint had not started. What it was, was a tricky corner and a couple of guys got their lines wrong, resulting in a crash, big deal, move on!

Why try to make a big deal over something that happens frequently in bike races, guys getting on a wrong line. even if it was Cav's fault, so what, it's not like it was something he would have wanted to happen. If we are going to try and crucify every guy who causes crashes in this Tour then it's going to be a long three weeks!

Because he's Cavendish and he's a *** and he has ridden dangerously on occasion. He *won't* get the benefit of doubt from many people. Similar to say Kyle Busch in Nascar. Cause enough incidents and you'll get blamed automatically even when it's not your fault.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Cav was at fault for the crash - he lost his line and then got tangled with the Lampre rider..... a racing incident, nothing more.

How can you see head butting and leaning before the bend - do you have a feed that no-one else has or are you talking about when Cav lost his line using the rider to stay upright?

If its the latter it is obvious you have never raced or been involved in a situation like that - (Cav missed his line probaly because he was close to tangling wheels) - trying to portray it as "dangerous sprinting" is simply wrong.

His leaning was how he pushed that over rider out which caused the guys to crash. The dangerous sprinting part was just talking in general terms because he has priors but by causing a crash (intentional or not) is still dangerous sprinting.
 

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richwagmn said:
Because he's Cavendish and he's a *** and he has ridden dangerously on occasion. He *won't* get the benefit of doubt from many people. Similar to say Kyle Busch in Nascar. Cause enough incidents and you'll get blamed automatically even when it's not your fault.

Surely not!!! Not on this forum, the bastion of fairness and objectivity;)
 
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Cav's got a lot of maturing to do.
A perfect lead out won't win him every race.
At this point in Cav's careeer, he isn't worhty of lacing Cipo's shoes....
 
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MartinGT said:
Isnt Cav's contract up at the end of the season too?

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Yes, but rumour has it that these guys were hanging around the HTC bus yesterday wanting to make him an offer.
 
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3 racing incidents yesterday. Cameras not close enough to blame anyone...

in relation to Cavendish's we dont know if he got pushed off his line by another rider and then tangled handle bars with another rider meaning they went straight taking other riders with them.

lots of quotes from riders yesterday. not one mention of cavendish from any of them but you all know he caused the three accidents of course:rolleyes:
 
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Benotti69 said:
3 racing incidents yesterday. Cameras not close enough to blame anyone...

in relation to Cavendish's we dont know if he got pushed off his line by another rider and then tangled handle bars with another rider meaning they went straight taking other riders with them.

lots of quotes from riders yesterday. not one mention of cavendish from any of them but you all know he caused the three accidents of course:rolleyes:

I think it's either:
(1) Roid Rage, or
(2) Karma. Cav and his train of hired goons have pushed around too many riders, too many teams, and it's time for payback. Do we have video of the actual takedown of Cav? He may have been ridden off his line, towards the barriers. The Fasso Bartolo train of 2004 blah blah blah
 
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kukiniloa said:
Uniballer and his train of hired goons have pushed around too many riders, too many teams, and it's time for payback.

I think this is what you meant....;)

You're not lambasting Farrar for taking out that AG2R guy yesterday....Cav's fault:rolleyes:
 
Dr. Maserati said:
From Lloyd Mondory (the AG2R rider)



Lloyd Mondory said:
He said Belgian Jurgen Roelandts came crashing into him from behind, pushing him uncontrollably towards the American.

"A rider (Roelandts) hit me from behind. I'm sorry for Farrar, but I couldn't do anything about it," he said.

Yeah, looking back at the footage it happened where the straight narrowed a bit, Roelandts got caught out by that, seemed to lose his balance (skimmed the barriers?) and then you see Mondory going down on his inside.
 
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Benotti69 said:
I think this is what you meant....;)

You're not lambasting Farrar for taking out that AG2R guy yesterday....Cav's fault:rolleyes:

Little footage and some say it was Mr Farrar's (or Furra according to Paul Sherwen:D) fault at crashing someone.