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Choosing a Religion

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titan_90 said:
"Intelligent Design" is nothing more than Pseudoscience being pushed by the Creationists at the Discovery Institute. Just because science doesn't have all the answers yet, doesn't mean that a god or gods did it.

I figure that means you have faith that science will be able to explain how chaos became organized. I am not mocking your faith, I just do not see the logic of an accidental construction of the DNA code.
 
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Race Radio said:
I think we all know there is only one true god.....the spaghetti monster

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http://www.veganza.org

"Arrrr. To be a good follower of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, ye should drink much meade and surround yerself with as many buxom wenches as possible."
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I have always wondered this, how is it that everything in the universe is born or created from something except for the universe itself? There was nothing, and then there was.
 
Have been an atheist since the age of 12, after I finally left a school that was very prophetic in the Roman Catholic religion to go to a Protestant religion based school. Realised it was all a load of bs, and just switched off completely from then on. It seriously annoyed the Rev. and forced me to not make the 1st XI cricket team in school, simply because of my beliefs or lack thereof in his eyes, as he picked it.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Amusing chart. I'm a generic boring Christian according to it

Need room for Deism (which is what I really am at my core), or agnosticism.

Love the "are you rich and insane?" question on the right.

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+1 on the humor of the chart.
 
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brisbane? i heard it was perfectly pleasant..

ok.. i give up.. whats a bris?

The Jewish ritual of circumcision. Done by a Mohel.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
I figure that means you have faith that science will be able to explain how chaos became organized. I am not mocking your faith, I just do not see the logic of an accidental construction of the DNA code.

I believe(don't like the word "faith") that science can and will explain everything with time.

I respect other peoples beliefs but, I don't believe that we were created by a supreme being. Religion to me is completely irrational, IMHO religion was created by man to give its self comfort in a brutal world that they didn't understand before science was around.

That being said, religion can be a source of good in this world in certain circumstances. But all to often it has shown it's self to be a scourge of mankind. Offering up nothing but war, pain, suffering, genocide, racism and hypocrisy. The sooner we can leave it in the history books the better.
 
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Need to have the ability to choose "Jedi" on the chart as that's what I am ... at least according to the last official NZ Government Census (and it's illegal to fill those things out falsely, so it must be true!!)

And no, it's not 'cos I'm a sci-fi geek (please, no!!!!) ... Someone tried to organise a protest against the inane questions that make up most of the census and found out that if you got a relatively small proportion of the population filling out their religion as "Jedi" (using the ubiqitous "Other (specify)" box) it would have to be recognised as an official religion! The subversive in me liked this and I signed on instantly!

Unfortunately the folks at the stats department got wind of this and annulled the responses ... Little do they know "Powerful, the Force is" ... and we'll succeed next time!!! ;)
 
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Need to have the ability to choose "Jedi" on the chart as that's what I am ... at least according to the last official NZ Government Census (and it's illegal to fill those things out falsely, so it must be true!!)

And no, it's not 'cos I'm a sci-fi geek (please, no!!!!) ... Someone tried to organise a protest against the inane questions that make up most of the census and found out that if you got a relatively small proportion of the population filling out their religion as "Jedi" (using the ubiqitous "Other (specify)" box) it would have to be recognised as an official religion! The subversive in me liked this and I signed on instantly!

Unfortunately the folks at the stats department got wind of this and annulled the responses ... Little do they know "Powerful, the Force is" ... and we'll succeed next time!!! ;)

jedi numbers have fallen in NZ over the lasdt two census.. 20,000 at the last one compared with 53,000 on the previous..

in britain though we have 380,000 :D
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
I figure that means you have faith that science will be able to explain how chaos became organized. I am not mocking your faith, I just do not see the logic of an accidental construction of the DNA code.

Believe what you want, but if your "Faith" demands you deny rigorously supported Scientific theories, your "Faith" therefore demands you also refuse to benefit from the products and advances those Theories deliver. That is, a consistent non-hypocrital Intelligent Design supporter should boycott all fossil fuel derivatives and modern medicines, as Petrology, Immunology and Virology all draw heavily on Darwinian Evolution for any of their discoveries.

Don't devalue Nature by insisting that an anthropomorphic entity is responsible for everything. Although it takes a small leap of understanding to comprehend how simple amino acids are able to be created spontaneously in an aqueous solution containing nitrogen, oxygen and carbon when electricity is applied in the presence of a clay catalyst (eg a muddy puddle struck by lightning), it takes a veritable denial of logical processing to believe that something as complex an omnipotent "designer" can manufacturer itself in a vacuum.
 
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The chart left out the "Do you believe in unicorns -> Yes -> You should worship Lance Armstrong" section.

Lance Armstrong doesn't exist.
 
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First off I want to say I am questioning your belifes in this post. I am sincerely sorry if you find my post disrespectful in any way. If you do just ignore it. This isn't meant in any way to be disrespectful or hurtful, I'm just curious. We obviously have different points of view and I want to understand why.


Would people be that much different if it hadn't? Just because people believe religion makes them better does not mean it does. Just because people believe atheism makes them better does not mean it does. People, regardless of belief or lack thereof, are people.


I think its situational how you benefit from believe or not believing in god. I understand some one using religion to get through a tough time such as a death of a close friend may make it easier, but following my current beliefs I still think its silly.


God has impacted my life profoundly. I don't have to justify that to anyone. I don't care what anyone thinks about that. I promise you, many of your external questions are internal ones for me. What I cannot deny is the power of God in my life that I have experienced by ceding my will. I don't have all of the answers. I used to think I had to have them. I decided the good God has brought to my life is good, and that I didn't think my way into it. All I did was ask for help one time when I had nothing and nobody else to turn to. I received help. I still receive help because I ask for it. That help is not always what I think it should be, and sometimes comes much more slowly than I desire. However, it always comes in some form. I just accept it, and hold onto the glimpses of Him I have.


Do you think that religious people have better lives than Atheists? You don't think that something would of happened anyways if you didn't ask for help? The world doesn't revolve around you. Billions of living organisms on this planet, each with a slight impact. There is no way I can believe that a miracle happened when you asked for help, rather than a chain reaction involving you.

Say the 2 of us are training for the up coming season. Every week I follow what my coach says and I have a great season where as you ask for a good season as well as following your coach's training plan and also have an equally good season. Did you need god? would you have not of had a good season with out your prayer? Is everyone else better than you also required to pray?


Sometimes, I am a potty mouthed *** who shows few if any redeeming values, and yet He still loves me.

When people look at religion like this I can understand why some one would turn to it. If you feel lonely, or questioning the meaning of life, then why wouldn't you turn to god. Its reassuring to "know" the answer, or to have the company of some one with lots of power.

I fully understand that one day, I may face something that may take my life painfully, or be subjected to a pain that so devastating that my anguish may not cease in this life. Tragic things happen, and many people in them pray for deliverance. The deliverance for which they pray does not come, and maybe mine won't either. I hope that I will then touch the solace of the belief I have that there is something beyond this.

If you know you don't get immunity why would you invest in it? Stupid question, people gamble all the time but what keeps you from thinking with in reason when asking for god to help you? Why don't you ask god to give you super powers so you can fly? I think people ask reasonable questions cuz they know there is a chance it could happen. For every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction.

I will end with this. I think that maybe, your soul moves on to a better place after death regardless of the life you have lived or what you have believed. I actually hope that was Christ's message.

Why wouldn't you hope for that? Its scary knowing everything you have ever done is meaningless if you just cease to exist once you die.

One last point from me. Why do you keep asking him for help. I think you get the same result when you don't believe in god. It will always be a 50% chance weather it works out or not. Guidance from god doesn't push give you a 55% chance of success. You say he doesn't always answer, but something still happens, even if its not your requested outcome, the world keeps moving.

When you succeed without gods assistance, what do you think?