Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 35.6%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 63 53.4%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 26 22.0%

  • Total voters
    118
May 26, 2009
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Funny :D

Crushed by the imaginary Coffeedrinker and flat-out ridiculising himself as criticaster of Wiggins who actually has a much beter showing so far. All that sheer arrogance being smashed within two weeks. A good lesson in hubris... now to hope he has the capability to get down from his high horse and actually learn.
 
Aug 4, 2010
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I wanted to post this in Alberto thread,but is belongs here more.

I am worried a lot that this Dauphine will have bad impact on his preparation.This guy is so crazy hard-working that it can be a disadvatange.
imo he has so much motivation now,that he will train like super crazy!And its not good 3 weeks before Tour.I want to see as close as possible battle in mountains at Tour,really,be calm Froome.
 
May 19, 2011
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ILovecycling said:
I wanted to post this in Alberto thread,but is belongs here more.

I am worried a lot that this Dauphine will have bad impact on his preparation.This guy is so crazy hard-working that it can be a disadvatange.
imo he has so much motivation now,that he will train like super crazy!And its not good 3 weeks before Tour.I want to see as close as possible battle in mountains at Tour,really,be calm Froome.

Froom will be ready together with Nibali and AV, it should be a good show in July:D
 
Jul 3, 2009
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PirazziAttacksVino said:
That's bull****! Froome didn't follow AC immediately because he couldn't.

We just learned today that I was wrong and you were right. It is a shame that Froome crashed and lost a race which was already his... however, I am confident that he will recover in time. I have to admit that I am really surprised to see AC back at such level. Neverthelesa, an uninjured Froome is still a force in the mountains and he will dominate AC in the ITT. Ad the stronger team Sky has compared to Saxo aaaand... Froome will win the Tour. Again. Would be better for cycling,,too. AC should never again be seen on a GT podium top spot.
 
Aug 31, 2012
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ILovecycling said:
A brief question...I want to ask those who read it.
Is The Climb worth reading? (I'm making my book list for summer)

Check out the thread in the clinic for samples from the book
 
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Alpechraxler said:
It's not just AC vs CF and Sky vs Saxo. Garmin will go Crazy.. Schleck seems to be on a good way too.

I would add Valverde and Nibali too, so in july the party is on.
 
Yep, this is all shaping up to be the July we were looking forward too. Contador taking a minute or two in the mountains Froome doing the same in the TT. Throw in an in form Nibali, Valverde some Garmin madness in the form of Talansky, Ryder and Martin .and literally anything could happen.......who knows even Andy might try something. All it's missing is Nario.
 
TANK91 said:
Can he return to form for the TDF or is this done. Only person i remember doing well after a crap CdD is Nibali in 2012, surely an injury at this time can not be fixed, unlike Nibali Froome actually crashed. Im really worried for the TDF because i think if he does not crash Froome would be fine. If Froome is on stage 2 form and does not drop Contador that is perfect but i can't see it. I no many will disagree but the win will be tainted, if Froome is completely awful than clearly Contador is lucky.:)

TANK91 said:
Im just worried surely it takes someone's form away i mean it is less than 3 weeks till the TDF. He may recover but can never recover what he had surely?

You're kidding right? Or are you lining up the excuses already? I'll grant that his crash probably had some effect on his performance this week but there's no way he (or you) can use it as an excuse if he loses the Tour. It wasn't that bad a crash. Sometimes crashes like that have little to no effect at all. GC guys have similar falls all the time and go on to win races. We're still a month away from the big stages at the Tour. If Froome doesn't go well then, it won't because of the fall this week.
 
happytramp said:
Yep, this is all shaping up to be the July we were looking forward too. Contador taking a minute or two in the mountains Froome doing the same in the TT. Throw in an in form Nibali, Valverde some Garmin madness in the form of Talansky, Ryder and Martin .and literally anything could happen.......who knows even Andy might try something. All it's missing is Nario.
:mad: No mention of Papi Horner? :p
 
happytramp said:
Yep, this is all shaping up to be the July we were looking forward too. Contador taking a minute or two in the mountains Froome doing the same in the TT. Throw in an in form Nibali, Valverde some Garmin madness in the form of Talansky, Ryder and Martin .and literally anything could happen.......who knows even Andy might try something. All it's missing is Nario.

Yes, I think the only we'll be missing is some Colombian flavor with most of them having done the Giro (or gone AWOL) and Henao likely to be on Borg-duty. Maybe we'll see something out of Acevedo, he seems to finally be finding some form after his injuries.

And Ryder won't be at the Tour, btw.
 
ILovecycling said:
A brief question...I want to ask those who read it.
Is The Climb worth reading? (I'm making my book list for summer)

I have just finished it and it is a very interesting and worthwhile read. Froome speaks a lot about his childhood in Kenya and south Africa, his rise to fame and a stage by stage thorough review of the 2011 vuelta, 2012 tour and 2013 tour. He speaks a lot about (his feeling about) Wiggins and their rivalry, and in general seems to dismiss wiggo as an arrogant, not sociable character.

One of my favourite quotes:

Froome on doping accusations (Sorry mods): 'Spit in my face. Stand in my way. Boo me. Hiss at me. Troll your accusations. You don't know my blood.You don't know my Heart. The people who matter to me do, and for now that is enough'

I would recommend it, whilst it's not the most fascinating sports autobiography I've ever read (that goes to Andre Agassi's 'Open') it is a worthwhile interesting read, and gives a characterization and emotion to the palmares. Froome himself admits that he proves more through his results than his words (as opposed to Wiggins) but I feel that he does well to let us know who he really is.

Lastly some quotes on Wiggins:

'If you were riding out to battle through early morning mists with your standards flying high, Sir Bradley Wiggins was a man you would want at your side. Because after lunch he just might not bothered'

'We rode around him and his moods as if he was a traffic island'

'Brad had issued a gilt edges invitation to the media. Sir Bradley Wiggins cordially invites you to Wiggins vs Froome, a duel to the death under the July Sun...
 
Aug 16, 2011
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ILovecycling said:
A brief question...I want to ask those who read it.
Is The Climb worth reading? (I'm making my book list for summer)

It's great!...for a good laugh. ;)
 
A small way of topic here but when it comes to race tactics and craft, Alberto is night and day above Froome and Sky. He knows exactly how to read a race and what to do when. He always has had this when racing. Adding to his incredible form right now and Sky, particularly Froome I believe are in huge **** come Tour time. They have always ridden to 1 plan the last 2 years ie: Sky Train and then Froome would go in last 1km or so. Now that does not work with AC who is there at the last 1km and can still attack or blows that plan apart by going early when `Sky have tried to ride him off and themselves into the ground like yesterdays stage.

Couple that with Mick Rogers as road captain and the rest of the DS who are tactically better than Sky DS and its going to take a massive effort from Sky this Tour.

My 2c
 
MBotero said:
You forgot,he wasn't targeting a win here:D That of course if you believe this BS.

Of course he wanted to win and it didn't go as planned for him in stage 8. May it be a tactical mistake or simply the lack of team support is open for discussion.

However, that he is above Froome regarding race tactics in general is pretty clear.
 
Jun 4, 2014
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JimPanzen said:
Of course he wanted to win and it didn't go as planned for him in stage 8. May it be a tactical mistake or simply the lack of team support is open for discussion.

However, that he is above Froome regarding race tactics in general is pretty clear.

Since Froome tactic is very simple Choo Choo and then unleash the Flash,you got a point here:)
 
Mar 31, 2010
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jaylew said:
Yes, I think the only we'll be missing is some Colombian flavor with most of them having done the Giro (or gone AWOL) and Henao likely to be on Borg-duty. Maybe we'll see something out of Acevedo, he seems to finally be finding some form after his injuries.

And Ryder won't be at the Tour, btw.

atapuma has been very disapointing for me this year but he seems to slowly catch some form. I really through he would break through this year under pinotti. his itt is as terrible as ever as well, while he used to be able to do a good itt in colombia es passion.
 
Aug 4, 2010
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Ryo Hazuki said:
atapuma has been very disapointing for me this year but he seems to slowly catch some form. I really through he would break through this year under pinotti. his itt is as terrible as ever as well, while he used to be able to do a good itt in colombia es passion.

yeah,I expected more.on the other hand,yesterday he held contador wheel for couple of km when he had worked for vangarderen before,so I think he is in slight form.
His biggest problem at Tour (if nominated) will be garderen:eek:
 
Jul 25, 2011
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IMO more than a physical problem, he collapsed mentally. The two first stages he tried "to kill" Contador's growing confidence during the season but he couldn't.

Holding his wheel, playing guerrilla tactics, outclimbing him marginally. Froome was decimated day by day by AC.

I'm not convinced about the crash because in Emmoson his team worked hard and there were no more than 7-8 riders when Alberto launched his attack. So how can be brutally worse the next day?:confused:
 
Forunculo said:
IMO more than a physical problem, he collapsed mentally. The two first stages he tried "to kill" Contador's growing confidence during the season but he couldn't.

Holding his wheel, playing guerrilla tactics, outclimbing him marginally. Froome was decimated day by day by AC.

I'm not convinced about the crash because in Emmoson his team worked hard and there were no more than 7-8 riders when Alberto launched his attack. So how can be brutally worse the next day?:confused:

Good point. I was wondering about that too. One day they are working like hell for him and he was fine (for his injuries). But the next he is nowhere near that kind of form. And I don't think his injuries got magically worse over night. :confused:

But we will see at the Tour in what kind of pain he was: physical or mental?