Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Carols]

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I'm sorry but.. I just can't get over how ugly CF rides a bike. I know style doesn't count for anything but when it's THIS bad I actually think it should. When I became passionate about bike racing as a kid I followed riders, not just because they were good but because they looked good doing it. I know I used to try to emulate their style of riding. Just can't see that many young aspiring bike racers looking at CF and thinking "THAT'S what I want to look like!".

Froombows

Yes its ugly, however he's not going to change it with the results he's achieved the past few years. Zakarin has taken that style to a whole new level!

Zakarin is but a pale imitation .

 

[SevenTimeTdfChamp]

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I'm sorry but.. I just can't get over how ugly CF rides a bike. I know style doesn't count for anything but when it's THIS bad I actually think it should. When I became passionate about bike racing as a kid I followed riders, not just because they were good but because they looked good doing it. I know I used to try to emulate their style of riding. Just can't see that many young aspiring bike racers looking at CF and thinking "THAT'S what I want to look like!".

Froombows

haha i dont think it is safe for the kids to emulate his style.. cant see the red lights if they ride like that

 

[PremierAndrew]

What i don't get is how Froome avoids neck pain by adopting that position. If you look forward with your back in a non-aero position (commuter's position) and then lean forward so you are in your aero position, you end up looking in front of the handlebars. So over the course of his life, he has managed to get in the habit of pushing his neck further down until he directly stares at his stem

 

[ILovecycling]

http://www.biciciclismo.com/es/froome-quiere-llegar-en-mejor-forma-a-la-tercera-semana-del-tour-06-06-2016

Froome said he wants to be in better form in the 3rd WEEK of the TdF
now thats cool

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Re:

I'm sorry but.. I just can't get over how ugly CF rides a bike. I know style doesn't count for anything but when it's THIS bad I actually think it should. When I became passionate about bike racing as a kid I followed riders, not just because they were good but because they looked good doing it. I know I used to try to emulate their style of riding. Just can't see that many young aspiring bike racers looking at CF and thinking "THAT'S what I want to look like!".

Froombows

Let's hope he stays camera shy for few more stages.

 

[KGB]

There a few constants in Cycling.

Froome looking at his stem and still winning

Froome has raced always that way, it is not looking the stem, it is his usual movement in a bike since a boy.

Some people thinks he looks data or something like that contantly, but he raced the same way in the past before SKY...Of course he sometimes looks at the data, a the rest of the riders, but no more. If you put Froome a bike without data and you ask him his maximum, he will do the same.

What?Froomestrong without data ?All his victories was because of Kerrison which means data.

 

[TomLPC]

There a few constants in Cycling.

Froome looking at his stem and still winning

Froome has raced always that way, it is not looking the stem, it is his usual movement in a bike since a boy.

Some people thinks he looks data or something like that contantly, but he raced the same way in the past before SKY...Of course he sometimes looks at the data, a the rest of the riders, but no more. If you put Froome a bike without data and you ask him his maximum, he will do the same.

What?Froomestrong without data ?All his victories was because of Kerrison which means data.

Nothing to do with his dedication, hard work, incredible penchant for suffering etc?

 

[bigcog]

Brown underpants time for Froome, if you missed it:https://twitter.com/CyclingHubTV/status/739842453277179904

 

[Pricey_sky]

Brown underpants time for Froome, if you missed it:https://twitter.com/CyclingHubTV/status/739842453277179904

given his record of recovery from crashes that could well have been his Dauphine done with (and potentially Tour too).

 

[jens_attacks]

Sorry to say it cause i like froomey but what the hell was doing there? Gc contenders should leave the sprinter teams do their stuff!

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Sorry to say it cause i like froomey but what the hell was doing there? Gc contenders should leave the sprinter teams do their stuff!

Working on his ability to hold position against other aggressive riders. Will be super useful the year after he crashes out of the Giro when he targets Paris Roubaix

 

[rick james]

The first bump wasn't the dawgs fault..he done well to stay up..another day ticked off with good miles in the legs

 

[SeriousSam]

Close call. Would be a shame if we had to assign a big fat asterisk to whoever wins the Tour were Froome to have a bad crash.

 

[Red Rick]

Ah cmon Sam, if Froome didn't start the Tour that'd be a bit unfair, though Contador would surely deserve a big, fat, beautiful asterisk next to his impending Dauphine win

 

[Miburo]

Close call. Would be a shame if we had to assign a big fat asterisk to whoever wins the Tour were Froome to have a bad crash.

What? I'm saying that luck often plays a critical role in bringing about outcomes. We may well resort to the fine construct that is the asterisk to document when it does.

Luck affecting results also doesn't render them meaningless, although if you believe it does, it's understandable why you'd want to deny reality and downplay luck as a driver of success.

Don't tell me you're gonna deny reality right?

What would the exact size of the asterisks be?

 

[SeriousSam]

I have put considerable thought into the very nature of luck, context and asteriskses, and whilst there may well appear to be a tension between the two posts you quoted to the untrained eye, I assure you, there is none.

 

[Rollthedice]

50% chance that Froome will crash out of TdF based on his last four GT starts.

 

[Miburo]

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I have put considerable thought into the very nature of luck, context and asteriskses, and whilst there may well appear to be a tension between the two posts you quoted to the untrained eye, I assure you, there is none.

I agree there is none. But the context in which you use luck or asterisk depends on the rider you like. That's human of course, you're not a robot after all.

 

[Taxus4a]

There a few constants in Cycling.

Froome looking at his stem and still winning

Froome has raced always that way, it is not looking the stem, it is his usual movement in a bike since a boy.

Some people thinks he looks data or something like that contantly, but he raced the same way in the past before SKY...Of course he sometimes looks at the data, a the rest of the riders, but no more. If you put Froome a bike without data and you ask him his maximum, he will do the same.

What?Froomestrong without data ?All his victories was because of Kerrison which means data.

I didnt say that... All the riders lookss at the data, Froome doesnt do more, maybe more than average, but as most of the riders.. he always rode bending the head that way.

From 5:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEGpv0xn0E8 This is not Kerrison, then froome has no a lot odea about cycling, lot of things to learn and pulish.

 

[Taxus4a]

I dont know if he and his team knows what are doing about to be stronger the lat week.. I think he is stronger enough, he must do what has worked out in the past.. anyway I see Froome very strong already.

 

[Savant12]

Froome with Sagan-esque bike handling skills. He's done the cobbles, wet descents and steep climbs. Next, is to bunny hop over a fallen rider.

 

[vedrafjord]

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I'm sorry but.. I just can't get over how ugly CF rides a bike. I know style doesn't count for anything but when it's THIS bad I actually think it should. When I became passionate about bike racing as a kid I followed riders, not just because they were good but because they looked good doing it. I know I used to try to emulate their style of riding. Just can't see that many young aspiring bike racers looking at CF and thinking "THAT'S what I want to look like!".

Froombows

I don't think he can do much about it - his arms are too long for a road bike so he sticks his elbows out to shorten their effective length. Road bike frames are targeted towards a certain 'average' shape rider and if you fall outside that geometry you'll end up faffing around a lot with stems, steerers, seat posts and handlebars to get something that's both aero and comfortable. I have the opposite problem - I have long legs and a short torso and if you looked at my bike you'd think it was for a 60 year old commuter with a bad back, but when I'm actually on it my back is flat when I'm on the drops. The higher handlebars and shorter stem puts it on the twitchy side though.

Incidentally, his long arms are perfect for a TT bike, where you want to get down and forward over the bike as much as possible. A lot of riders with good TT position seem to be tall.

 

[Taxus4a]

Today could be the first day in the year where Froome showed he is the boss, or still we can go on in the doubt.

It is not a hard final and he doesnt need to take time to show that, but we could see the same Froome than in Catalunya still, or the usual Froome in Dauphine.

He gave glimses so far... won HST, strong attack in Montjuic, won an stage in Romandie,...but no more, not that Froome that people scare. I think He did a good prologue considering he is not the best in so big gradients (except a normal stage and he is clearly the stronger of the race), but in a final as today if Dan Martin or someone like that take the win and he is at the same time putting time to other GC contenders, or catching easy a Contador attack, or something like that, I would say he is ready for his main goal of the year and this year he is the same of the lat years...

If he lose some seconds again with Porte or Contador today, you can think: well, this year he is taking different, he will be peaking at the end of le Tour, it is an olimpic year, everything is ok... but the doubts will remain with him.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Of course he won't lose time today. It's easy, even Boasson Hagen or GVA could win.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Of course he won't lose time today. It's easy, even Boasson Hagen or GVA could win.

And Bouhani could win if the pace is really soft, even in Zoncolan...

EBH has won a really hard tage in auophine with the climb of this year ITT in le Tour in Sallanches...and GVA has climbed very well climbs as Jaizkibel or Ghisallo...but today is a day for climbers, and currently I dont consider them as climbers...Maybe Allaphilippe, but it is a day for Dan Martin, Purito, and if the pace it hard at the end, it will be some samall differences between GC riders.