Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 41 35.0%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 63 53.8%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 26 22.2%

  • Total voters
    117
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TMP402 said:
SergeDeM said:
Froome is really entertaining but it's just not in me to root for the biggest favorite in any scenario *

* Nibali and Colombian restrictions apply

You think Froome is the favourite? My assumption is that Quintana is, since Quintana has in the past shown the ability to knock down most of the time wall Froome has built up over the first two weeks. And since both get older each Tour they face each other, logically one year Quintana will knock Froome's wall down.
Until he does, Froome is the favorite.
 
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TMP402 said:
SergeDeM said:
Froome is really entertaining but it's just not in me to root for the biggest favorite in any scenario *

* Nibali and Colombian restrictions apply

You think Froome is the favourite? My assumption is that Quintana is, since Quintana has in the past shown the ability to knock down most of the time wall Froome has built up over the first two weeks. And since both get older each Tour they face each other, logically one year Quintana will knock Froome's wall down.

Is the two time winner who's currently in the yellow jersey and riding brilliantly so far the favorite over the rider who's been runner-up to him twice? Yes, definitely. If he can stay healthy, Quintana's day will come, but probably not yet. Still hard to believe Quintana's only 26 years old. He's just now reaching the peak years for most cyclists and he was runner-up when he was just 23. On the other hand, Froome's still in his Grand Tour prime. Great rivalry.
 
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patrick767 said:
TMP402 said:
SergeDeM said:
Froome is really entertaining but it's just not in me to root for the biggest favorite in any scenario *

* Nibali and Colombian restrictions apply

You think Froome is the favourite? My assumption is that Quintana is, since Quintana has in the past shown the ability to knock down most of the time wall Froome has built up over the first two weeks. And since both get older each Tour they face each other, logically one year Quintana will knock Froome's wall down.

Is the two time winner who's currently in the yellow jersey and riding brilliantly so far the favorite over the rider who's been runner-up to him twice? Yes, definitely. If he can stay healthy, Quintana's day will come, but probably not yet. Still hard to believe Quintana's only 26 years old. He's just now reaching the peak years for most cyclists and he was runner-up when he was just 23. On the other hand, Froome's still in his Grand Tour prime. Great rivalry.

I meant who was the favourite going into the Tour. I gave/give it to Quintana by 55-45.
 
Mar 31, 2014
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simulcop said:
[quote="PremierAndrew"

Vuelta TT last year is pretty much identical in both length and parcours.

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You can expect Froome to put in a similar time to Dumoulin, so you're looking at about 1'30

Two different stage profiles (La Vuelta was almost flat), with approx same lengths. Nairo have become a good TT in the last year, and lost 1:30 with a Dumoulin who was prepared for La Vuelta while Nairo have had Le Tour on his back. I guess 1minute at most will gain Froome over Nairo.[/quote]

If Froome wins the stage today, he will go with at least 40 secs of advantage in the TT. I think he can be at the same level as Martin, Cancellara and Dumoulin on this hilly parcours there. So it's likely, that Froome has an advantage of about 2 Minutes at the second rest day. With no multiple mountain stages to come. 3 mountain stages and the MTT are waiting in the last week. That means Quinti has to drop Froome at all 3 Mountain stages and must be better at the MTT. Must gain about 30 seconds at every climb.

I would say: If Froome will finish in front of Quinti today and put a minute on Quintana tomorrow, the Tour is pretty over.
 
People are confusing Froome's 2015 time loss in last week against Quintana as weakness in mountains, but forget on stage 17 he woke up with temperature and infection and was on antibiotics which didn't work because he had a viral, not bacterial infection in his lungs. He refused to get a TUE to alleviate the worsening coughing on stage 18 for those last 3 mountain stages for fear of Romandie all over again with urine fans and so rode the last 4 mountain stages against Quintana with worsening chest infection. He said at the start line each day with Quintana next to him, he had to hold his breath to stop himself coughing for fear of him hearing all the phlegm rattling in his lungs if he did. I honestly don't think Quintana is strong-enough this year and even if he is, his team simply isn't going to provide the platform to show it, even with Froome's & Sky's energy expenditure this first week and a bit.
 
Sponzors and especially Sky must be in heaven. Few km of crazy downhill and few km of even crazier classic attack
could change a lot of possible clients from bashing to liking or at least being indifferent.

Good for him and his new contract. :)
 
Sep 17, 2015
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kenk09 said:
Blind rabbits from a hotel for blind orphans. Or so I believe.

I heard it was Blind Baby Rabbits from a hostel for the Blind Baby Orphans of Pro Cyclists, and that was laughing and twirling his moustache as he fed them screaming to his snake. and Hitler.

TMP402 said:
What happened to the boa?

He tied it to some train tracks, laughing all the while.
 
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TheRossSeaParty said:
Froome won me over today. The descent stage win was fantastic, but today was something else. And I used to hate him and everything about his style of racing. Chapeau.

In the same boat - I agree and offer my chapeu.

He suddenly has a patron quality to him. Never would have imagined writing that. Definitely changed his attitude this year - reminds me a little of Cadel after his world championship win.
 
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SKSemtex said:
Sponzors and especially Sky must be in heaven. Few km of crazy downhill and few km of even crazier classic attack
could change a lot of possible clients from bashing to liking or at least being indifferent.

Good for him and his new contract. :)

The suspicious part of me wonders if this is not a plan we are watching unfold. Not a cycling Plan....

'Hi Chris, my name's Tarquin. I am from Sky. Marketing?'
'Oh, Hi. Nice Audi'
'Yes, anyway - we were wondering... you are a great cyclist and everything but we have some ideas about improving your image.'
'What, like new glasses? a Moustache? I have a top-hat?'
'Um No..... listen, how do you feel about punching a fan?'
'Punching....?? what??'
'Bad boy. see? Chris 'Bad Boy' Froome. How's that for a nickname?'
'I have a nickname - Froomey!'
'Yes... that's not exactly exciting is it? Plus, we want you to attack on a descent'
'But I'm a climber'
'Dave's on board, it's all worked out. He has some training lined up. Oh, and how would you feel about attacking in the last 10k on a windy sprint stage?'
'I would need someone very very strong with not much tactical nous, or no GC contender in the mix to help me'
'Yessss....... how well do you know Peter Sagan?'

All just a marketing ploy.
 
PatrickLeeds said:
SKSemtex said:
Sponzors and especially Sky must be in heaven. Few km of crazy downhill and few km of even crazier classic attack
could change a lot of possible clients from bashing to liking or at least being indifferent.

Good for him and his new contract. :)

The suspicious part of me wonders if this is not a plan we are watching unfold. Not a cycling Plan....

'Hi Chris, my name's Tarquin. I am from Sky. Marketing?'
'Oh, Hi. Nice Audi'
'Yes, anyway - we were wondering... you are a great cyclist and everything but we have some ideas about improving your image.'
'What, like new glasses? a Moustache? I have a top-hat?'
'Um No..... listen, how do you feel about punching a fan?'
'Punching....?? what??'
'Bad boy. see? Chris 'Bad Boy' Froome. How's that for a nickname?'
'I have a nickname - Froomey!'
'Yes... that's not exactly exciting is it? Plus, we want you to attack on a descent'
'But I'm a climber'
'Dave's on board, it's all worked out. He has some training lined up. Oh, and how would you feel about attacking in the last 10k on a windy sprint stage?'
'I would need someone very very strong with not much tactical nous, or no GC contender in the mix to help me'
'Yessss....... how well do you know Peter Sagan?'

All just a marketing ploy.

Marginal Marketing :D