Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Põhja Konn]

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So, now Tour is in the bag, he is already preparing for the Vuelta.

 

[SeriousSam]

On twitter, someone said that Froome's little jog up the road could have repercussions tomorrow. Cyclists don't really use those muscles, he could be sore. Seems absurd to me, but I'm not a bike rider myself.

Is there something to that?

 

[PremierAndrew]

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On twitter, someone said that Froome's little jog up the road could have repercussions tomorrow. Cyclists don't really use those muscles, he could be sore. Seems absurd to me, but I'm not a bike rider myself.

Is there something to that?

He ran for the best part of a minute

 

[IndianCyclist]

Once again with the TT we will see the same situation as before. Quintana 2 mins down before 3rd week and most likely the same result as before. Quintana has been cracked and will need to regain strength. Unfortunately for him tomorrow is the TT. The race of truth, no hiding behind teammates or any wheel sucking.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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On twitter, someone said that Froome's little jog up the road could have repercussions tomorrow. Cyclists don't really use those muscles, he could be sore. Seems absurd to me, but I'm not a bike rider myself.

Is there something to that?

I doubt this will have any effect. I think that a person who has not ran a single meter for 5 years could run this distance and be okay next day. Froome is a much more fit and athletic person. He will be 100% tomorrow.

 

[MeiLewis]

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On twitter, someone said that Froome's little jog up the road could have repercussions tomorrow. Cyclists don't really use those muscles, he could be sore. Seems absurd to me, but I'm not a bike rider myself.

Is there something to that?

There could be. Fitness is _very_ specific, and being good at one thing doesn't make you good at another.
Cycling puts very specific demands on posture, muscles, tendons etc, and a 100 yard sprint after a hard ride and a crash could easily strain something.

He looked fine coming over the line back on a Sky bike though.

 

[laurensde+]

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On twitter, someone said that Froome's little jog up the road could have repercussions tomorrow. Cyclists don't really use those muscles, he could be sore. Seems absurd to me, but I'm not a bike rider myself.

Is there something to that?

Depends on his upper-body strength, I guess.

 

[Matteo.]

Come on ,he ran for 100-150m as every human knows how to do, he didn't ride a marathon

 

[geargbest]

Froome doesnt look very strong this year, dont get me wrong hes been by far the strongest so far but not beeing able to drop a guy like Mollema and distancing himself more from other riders such as Meintjes etc doesnt exactly strike me as this is Froome's best. Luckily for him Quintana seems totally out of and even more luckily for him Contador is not here duo to his crashes otherwice Froome would experience what he did last time they faced eachother mano a mano @ vuelta 14.

It just doesnt strike me now with Quintana out of shape that this field of competition can even touch Froome even so his not at his most impressive.

Like the way hes rode so far tho, besides Contador, Froome is actually the guy who is most agressive and attacks alot from all the GC riders and that has been not only the case here in this years TDF but in general so I definitely feel like the image many people have of him as this boring rider is exaggerated and unjustified.

 

[bigcog]

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Froome doesnt look very strong this year, dont get me wrong hes been by far the strongest so far but not beeing able to drop a guy like Mollema and distancing himself more from other riders such as Meintjes etc doesnt exactly strike me as this is Froome's best. Luckily for him Quintana seems totally out of and even more luckily for him Contador is not here duo to his crashes otherwice Froome would experience what he did last time they faced eachother mano a mano @ vuelta 14.

It just doesnt strike me now with Quintana out of shape that this field of competition can even touch Froome even so his not at his most impressive.

Like the way hes rode so far tho, besides Contador, Froome is actually the guy who is most agressive and attacks alot from all the GC riders and that has been not only the case here in this years TDF but in general so I definitely feel like the image many people have of him as this boring rider is exaggerated and unjustified.

Very true, he's always attacked. Just one eyed fan boys/girls refuse to see it.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Froome doesnt look very strong this year, dont get me wrong hes been by far the strongest so far but not beeing able to drop a guy like Mollema and distancing himself more from other riders such as Meintjes etc doesnt exactly strike me as this is Froome's best. Luckily for him Quintana seems totally out of and even more luckily for him Contador is not here duo to his crashes otherwice Froome would experience what he did last time they faced eachother mano a mano @ vuelta 14.

It just doesnt strike me now with Quintana out of shape that this field of competition can even touch Froome even so his not at his most impressive.

Like the way hes rode so far tho, besides Contador, Froome is actually the guy who is most agressive and attacks alot from all the GC riders and that has been not only the case here in this years TDF but in general so I definitely feel like the image many people have of him as this boring rider is exaggerated and unjustified.

I'm my opinion I think he's just doing enough when it comes to the mountains, he's taken a few risks on the descents and crosswinds to pick up time but I don't think we've seen everything he's got on a climb yet.

If he does want to save something back for the Olympics then I doubt he will give everything unless he has to, so far on this Tour he hasn't had too thanks to some negative riding from his main rivals.

 

[SeriousSam]

There's plenty of precedent for Froome and Porte being the #1 and #2 climber up some mountain, across races and years. Today, this was once again the case, except that Bauke was up there with them.

The appropriate inference is not that Froome and Porte regressed to Mollema levels, the appropriate inference is that Mollema was extraordinarily strong today. All the others, except Froome and Porte, were distanced 25 seconds and that would only have gone up to had they continued to the finish without crashing into a moto. A full climb to the top might even have seen the 1 min + gaps that are rare for MTFs.

My best guess as to where other riders would have been, had they not already exited the Tour: Back there with Aru and Yates.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Froome doesnt look very strong this year, dont get me wrong hes been by far the strongest so far but not beeing able to drop a guy like Mollema and distancing himself more from other riders such as Meintjes etc doesnt exactly strike me as this is Froome's best. Luckily for him Quintana seems totally out of and even more luckily for him Contador is not here duo to his crashes otherwice Froome would experience what he did last time they faced eachother mano a mano @ vuelta 14.

It just doesnt strike me now with Quintana out of shape that this field of competition can even touch Froome even so his not at his most impressive.

Like the way hes rode so far tho, besides Contador, Froome is actually the guy who is most agressive and attacks alot from all the GC riders and that has been not only the case here in this years TDF but in general so I definitely feel like the image many people have of him as this boring rider is exaggerated and unjustified.

Look is not the same than to be.

 

[El Pistolero]

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There's plenty of precedent for Froome and Porte being the #1 and #2 climber up some mountain, across races and years. Today, this was once again the case, except that Bauke was up there with them.

The appropriate inference is not that Froome and Porte regressed to Mollema levels, the appropriate inference is that Mollema was extraordinarily strong today. All the others, except Froome and Porte, were distanced 25 seconds and that would only have gone up to had they continued to the finish without crashing into a moto. A full climb to the top might even have seen the 1 min + gaps that are rare for MTFs.

My best guess as to where other riders would have been, had they not already exited the Tour: Back there with Aru and Yates.

Nah, they were slow. Hamilton and Mayo rode the entire Mont Ventoux climb faster than Mollema did this shortened climb (more than 10 minutes difference). Contador would have led this race with 6 minutes by now.

 

[SeriousSam]

According to jen's website Mayo and Hamilton averaged a better pace for a longer climb, but no one else did. I'm not sure what the split in avg gradient is, but rather than being slow, it seems so uncannily quick that Tailwind or something else must have been at play

2016:15,0 km@7,6%---39:25---average speed 22.83 (Bauke Mollema)

1 2004: 55:51 Iban Mayo 23.10 km/h
2. 2004: 56:26 Tyler Hamilton 22.86 km/h
3. 1999: 56:50 Jonathan Vaughters 22.70 km/h

 

[PremierAndrew]

Really hope Froome celebrates his next win like this:

https://youtu.be/r6ygbDh0mL4?t=47

 

[Tonton]

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On twitter, someone said that Froome's little jog up the road could have repercussions tomorrow. Cyclists don't really use those muscles, he could be sore. Seems absurd to me, but I'm not a bike rider myself.

Is there something to that?

You're not a bike rider? I'm disappointed . No, he'll be fine, the hammies will recover.

Having said that, Froome on his bike: a beast. On a neutral bike, I race him .

 

[Ricco']

Today was all about Kenyan marginal gains.

 

[Savant12]

In the TT, he's going to one-up Diego Rosa and run the last 1km with his bike aloft and still win the stage.

 

[The Hegelian]

Attacks like a Sagan on the descent, attacks with Sagan in the cross winds and then runs up Mt Ventoux.

I reckon he has Quintana beaten before he (Q) has even fired a bullet.

I pay homage. I've been a hater all the while, but this is an imperious performance.

 

[Jelantik]

Re: Re:

Froome doesnt look very strong this year, dont get me wrong hes been by far the strongest so far but not beeing able to drop a guy like Mollema and distancing himself more from other riders such as Meintjes etc doesnt exactly strike me as this is Froome's best. Luckily for him Quintana seems totally out of and even more luckily for him Contador is not here duo to his crashes otherwice Froome would experience what he did last time they faced eachother mano a mano @ vuelta 14.

It just doesnt strike me now with Quintana out of shape that this field of competition can even touch Froome even so his not at his most impressive.

Like the way hes rode so far tho, besides Contador, Froome is actually the guy who is most agressive and attacks alot from all the GC riders and that has been not only the case here in this years TDF but in general so I definitely feel like the image many people have of him as this boring rider is exaggerated and unjustified.

I'm my opinion I think he's just doing enough when it comes to the mountains, he's taken a few risks on the descents and crosswinds to pick up time but I don't think we've seen everything he's got on a climb yet.

If he does want to save something back for the Olympics then I doubt he will give everything unless he has to, so far on this Tour he hasn't had too thanks to some negative riding from his main rivals.

Froome said he is delaying his peak so he'll be top form on week 3. So I'm holding my judgment of Froome's dominance. It's true that he hasn't looked like his previous year so far. But, if he does peak on week 3, Quintana can start training again for 2017 TDF. And stop playing with kiddy pool in Route de Sud and play w/ big boys in Dauphine.

 

[movingtarget]

Quintana's thinking does not seem to have changed much from last year. He is counting on being strong in the last week. Yesterday he looked mediocre and his two attacks were nothing. I think the TT will clear up a lot of uncertainties about form. The race of truth.

 

[gazr99]

Wonder if the crash and even the run up Ventoux will affect Froome today. Listening tk the cycling podcast this morning and they rightly point out running will use different muscles especially in those shoes so he might be sore.

 

[rick james]

My god he ran 100 yards, it's not like he's just run a marathon

 

[gazr99]

It's a question, I remember reading Wiggins' book where he said they try to avoid standing altogether. Running up a mountain in cycling shoes can't have been comfortable.