Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Big Doopie]

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Age has affected Froome. Therefore he must attack as he does.

Age syndrome even more significantly next year.

agreed.

 

[Pricey_sky]

I suppose we will see over the coming days if what Froome has said all year will be true. If the slightly more relaxed training early in the season leads to a great week 3 and then stay in form for Rio.

 

[Poursuivant]

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Age has affected Froome. Therefore he must attack as he does.

Age syndrome even more significantly next year.

Honestly, I don't see this being a problem yet. He is 31. He became a GT contender 4/5 years ago, if he keeps himself in good shape by not putting too much weight on etc (I don't see this being a problem), and keeps targetting the Tour, I think he still has a good 3/4 Tours in him. And if ASO swerve this absurd "minimal TT stages" approach, then that will only play in his favour.

He is one of, if not the best climber in the world, and in top form is Top 5 TT'er in the world, it is a perfect combination, and when you throw in that he is great on flats, has proven himself to he a great descender, and has an unreal team behind him, he can be a big player for years to come. In my opinion of course

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

Age has affected Froome. Therefore he must attack as he does.

Age syndrome even more significantly next year.

Honestly, I don't see this being a problem yet. He is 31. He became a GT contender 4/5 years ago, if he keeps himself in good shape by not putting too much weight on etc (I don't see this being a problem), and keeps targetting the Tour, I think he still has a good 3/4 Tours in him. And if ASO swerve this absurd "minimal TT stages" approach, then that will only play in his favour.

He is one of, if not the best climber in the world, and in top form is Top 5 TT'er in the world, it is a perfect combination, and when you throw in that he is great on flats, has proven himself to he a great descender, and has an unreal team behind him, he can be a big player for years to come. In my opinion of course

If they go back to the proper amount of ITT kilometres, du Moulin suddenly becomes as big a threat as Quintana seemed these last two years.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Re: Re:

Age has affected Froome. Therefore he must attack as he does.

Age syndrome even more significantly next year.

Honestly, I don't see this being a problem yet. He is 31. He became a GT contender 4/5 years ago, if he keeps himself in good shape by not putting too much weight on etc (I don't see this being a problem), and keeps targetting the Tour, I think he still has a good 3/4 Tours in him. And if ASO swerve this absurd "minimal TT stages" approach, then that will only play in his favour.

He is one of, if not the best climber in the world, and in top form is Top 5 TT'er in the world, it is a perfect combination, and when you throw in that he is great on flats, has proven himself to he a great descender, and has an unreal team behind him, he can be a big player for years to come. In my opinion of course

If they go back to the proper amount of ITT kilometres, du Moulin suddenly becomes as big a threat as Quintana seemed these last two years.

Dumoulin would need a 2012 Tour-like route to become as big a threat as Quintana over the past two Tours.
Dumoulin was in great form during last year's Vuelta, and got beaten in the end by Aru, who is nowhere near the level of Quintana Froome etc in the mountains

Surely you wouldn't expect Dumoulin to outclimb the likes of Bardet

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

Age has affected Froome. Therefore he must attack as he does.

Age syndrome even more significantly next year.

Honestly, I don't see this being a problem yet. He is 31. He became a GT contender 4/5 years ago, if he keeps himself in good shape by not putting too much weight on etc (I don't see this being a problem), and keeps targetting the Tour, I think he still has a good 3/4 Tours in him. And if ASO swerve this absurd "minimal TT stages" approach, then that will only play in his favour.

He is one of, if not the best climber in the world, and in top form is Top 5 TT'er in the world, it is a perfect combination, and when you throw in that he is great on flats, has proven himself to he a great descender, and has an unreal team behind him, he can be a big player for years to come. In my opinion of course

If they go back to the proper amount of ITT kilometres, du Moulin suddenly becomes as big a threat as Quintana seemed these last two years.

Dumoulin would need a 2012 Tour-like route to become as big a threat as Quintana over the past two Tours.
Dumoulin was in great form during last year's Vuelta, and got beaten in the end by Aru, who is nowhere near the level of Quintana Froome etc in the mountains

Surely you wouldn't expect Dumoulin to outclimb the likes of Bardet

2012 is a small step in the right direction, but when I say "the proper amount of ITT kilometres", I mean, for a random example, 1978's 300km of TTT + ITT.

 

[sienna]

A lot is said about the debt Froome owes his team. I think it's the other way around - he drags them out out of obscurity to the point that some of them feature highly in the GC. Froome would win this thing with whatever team he was given - he's that strong both physically and mentally. :Neutral:

 

[DanielSong39]

We'll see Froome peak in week 3; would be surprised if he won by less than 5 minutes.

 

[Matteo.]

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I suppose we will see over the coming days if what Froome has said all year will be true. If the slightly more relaxed training early in the season leads to a great week 3 and then stay in form for Rio.

I'm very curious. I always thought it was his limit drop the third week but this year we will know the truth. for now the facts bear him out because did not unlined excellent performance as in 2013 and 2015 and then it seems that his form could improve

 

[StryderHells]

A lot is said about the debt Froome owes his team. I think it's the other way around - he drags them out out of obscurity to the point that some of them feature highly in the GC. Froome would win this thing with whatever team he was given - he's that strong both physically and mentally. :Neutral:

He does owe a great debt to his team, they look after on the flat and in the mountains as we've seen countless times. You say he would still win without his team, well we just don't know that because every year Froome has raced the Tour as leader he's had the strongest team around him 99% of the time. Also to say they owe him a great debt for dragging them out of obscurity just doesn't add up, his domestiques were all well known riders in there own right before becoming part of his Sky Train

 

[Oliwright]

I expect Froome to be beater in 3rd week than last year, he was very ill last year, but because the 2nd week has been so much harder than exspected and than last year, he might find it more difficult to not be fatigued.

But considering the different prep, and hopefully no illness Froome looks good.

 

[Poursuivant]

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/an-open-letter-to-chris-froome_414899

 

[TMP402]

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http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/an-open-letter-to-chris-froome_414899

Nice.

 

[dacooley]

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http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/an-open-letter-to-chris-froome_414899

that's a drop in the bucket so far. but suchlike penitential letters coming from violent haters like the hog would be a real win for cycling.

 

[meat puppet]

Tldr version here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lcUHQYhPTE

 

[Pricey_sky]

Dave B does his take on the Froome Ventoux run!

https://vine.co/v/573Y3UrwMtM

 

[Matteo.]

In an anonymous race , once again , the interesting point of discussion was his , when he fakes attack trolling opponents

 

[rm7]

Loved the trolling he did today

Tbf he doesn't really look that good, but neither does his competitors. We also haven't seen him being forced to go deep yet. His biggest "blessing" was when Contador crashed and got injured, because Tinkoff and Contador would've been the only one to challenge Froome.

Moviestar is riding for the team classification, stage wins and keeping Valverde up in the GC as well. Quintana is mountain goat, and that's it. He'll probably be the strongest in the Alps, but his skillset is limited.

Froome got this race just where he wants it. I know we can't blame him for having the far superior team to anyone else, but I would really love to see how good he is in a GT without a monster team.

 

[silvergrenade]

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Loved the trolling he did today

Tbf he doesn't really look that good, but neither does his competitors. We also haven't seen him being forced to go deep yet. His biggest "blessing" was when Contador crashed and got injured, because Tinkoff and Contador would've been the only one to challenge Froome.

Moviestar is riding for the team classification, stage wins and keeping Valverde up in the GC as well. Quintana is mountain goat, and that's it. He'll probably be the strongest in the Alps, but his skillset is limited.

Froome got this race just where he wants it. I know we can't blame him for having the far superior team to anyone else, but I would really love to see how good he is in a GT without a monster team.

Me too. How deep can he go? Would be interesting to see. He is always looking to attack

 

[rick james]

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Loved the trolling he did today

Tbf he doesn't really look that good, but neither does his competitors. We also haven't seen him being forced to go deep yet. His biggest "blessing" was when Contador crashed and got injured, because Tinkoff and Contador would've been the only one to challenge Froome.

Moviestar is riding for the team classification, stage wins and keeping Valverde up in the GC as well. Quintana is mountain goat, and that's it. He'll probably be the strongest in the Alps, but his skillset is limited.

Froome got this race just where he wants it. I know we can't blame him for having the far superior team to anyone else, but I would really love to see how good he is in a GT without a monster team.

No he wouldn't...

 

[pink_jersey]

Love the man. He's a true hunter. He goes after everybody, he attacks whenever he wants. He always tries to make thingS happen!! That's the spirit.
He's trolling today was art )

 

[PremierAndrew]

Never going to happen but I really wish that Froome would leave Sky. He's such an exciting rider but the dominance of sky just makes it boring. A weak climber but strong TTist like Dumoulin leading Sky would be a lot more interesting

 

[rm7]

Re: Re:

Loved the trolling he did today

Tbf he doesn't really look that good, but neither does his competitors. We also haven't seen him being forced to go deep yet. His biggest "blessing" was when Contador crashed and got injured, because Tinkoff and Contador would've been the only one to challenge Froome.

Moviestar is riding for the team classification, stage wins and keeping Valverde up in the GC as well. Quintana is mountain goat, and that's it. He'll probably be the strongest in the Alps, but his skillset is limited.

Froome got this race just where he wants it. I know we can't blame him for having the far superior team to anyone else, but I would really love to see how good he is in a GT without a monster team.

No he wouldn't...

I guess that's a matter of opinion. I haven't been following the discussion very closely in the Contador thread because of all the bs being thrown around in there.

I don't know why you would say that Contador wouldn't be able to challenge Froome. I didn't say he would beat him, we will never know, but when you see the level of the field and the way the Tour have been, I personally don't think there's any doubt that the ITT and the stage where Froome went on the attack downhill would be the difference between them right now. Whether he or Froome would be ahead, that's of course af big question.

And with the level Contador have been showing all year, including the Dauphine where he beat Froome on pure climbing skills, but also got beaten on another day, I don't know why he wouldn't be up there right now. It's not like Froome have been dominating him all year like 2013.

At least I think Contador would push Froome to the limit, so we could see how good he is this year. Right now I don't think he have really been riding to his limit yet, but on Ventoux I think it was close.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Where did Contador beat Froome uphill on the Dauphine?

 

[ILovecycling]

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Where did Contador beat Froome uphill on the Dauphine?

In the 1st stage.