Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 34.4%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 65 53.3%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 28 23.0%

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RayJ has been perma banned so will not be able to give his opinion on Froome. It's best for everyone to move on.

As for Froome it will be interesting how he goes today, if he takes another chunk of time on his rivals I think it's safe to say he's had a fair amount more in the locker than he's shown, he's only done what has been needed in this Tour so far.
 

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I've seen people say Froome doesn't look all that good this year...he's looked good and been true to his word, he's been holding back for this 3rd week and you can see that, some have got lucky that the Ventoux stage was shortened as I reckon Froome would have killed the GC that day
 
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I think he's seriously targetting the Tour-Vuelta double and softpedalling right now. He'll go for the stage today tho
 
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If he can do the Tour Vuelta double it would be immense. He'd become not only the best active GT rider which he's been since late 2011, but the one with the most impressive results too.
 
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rick james said:
I've seen people say Froome doesn't look all that good this year...he's looked good and been true to his word, he's been holding back for this 3rd week and you can see that, some have got lucky that the Ventoux stage was shortened as I reckon Froome would have killed the GC that day
Holding back so much that he won the Dauphine and was in the yellow jersey by day 8. So it seems he's comfortably the best GC rider in the world even when holding back.
 
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PremierAndrew said:
I think he's seriously targetting the Tour-Vuelta double and softpedalling right now. He'll go for the stage today tho

That's what the whole thing suspicious . All opponents are smoked but Froome softpedalling . Come and wake up. but it's like with Armstrong, the hardcore fans will never give in .
 
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tretiak said:
PremierAndrew said:
I think he's seriously targetting the Tour-Vuelta double and softpedalling right now. He'll go for the stage today tho

That's what the whole thing suspicious . All opponents are smoked but Froome softpedalling . Come and wake up. but it's like with Armstrong, the hardcore fans will never give in .
It's not like no one can follow.
Hasn't finished solo uphill, yet.
 
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DFA123 said:
rick james said:
I've seen people say Froome doesn't look all that good this year...he's looked good and been true to his word, he's been holding back for this 3rd week and you can see that, some have got lucky that the Ventoux stage was shortened as I reckon Froome would have killed the GC that day
Holding back so much that he won the Dauphine and was in the yellow jersey by day 8. So it seems he's comfortably the best GC rider in the world even when holding back.

I don't think Froome's holding back. He is just wary of the final week but now he has a clearer idea of Quintana's form. Quintana has not been holding back he just does not have the form. Froome can use the TT to consolidate and does not have to attack on the remaining stages. Porte will attack if he has the legs and Froome will go along for the ride like yesterday.
 
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Pricey_sky said:
RayJ has been perma banned so will not be able to give his opinion on Froome. It's best for everyone to move on.

As for Froome it will be interesting how he goes today, if he takes another chunk of time on his rivals I think it's safe to say he's had a fair amount more in the locker than he's shown, he's only done what has been needed in this Tour so far.

I'm sure his wife, Brigid, is reading ;)
 
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tretiak said:
PremierAndrew said:
I think he's seriously targetting the Tour-Vuelta double and softpedalling right now. He'll go for the stage today tho

That's what the whole thing suspicious . All opponents are smoked but Froome softpedalling . Come and wake up. but it's like with Armstrong, the hardcore fans will never give in .

What's been his highest w/kg this tour?
 
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Poursuivant said:
tretiak said:
PremierAndrew said:
I think he's seriously targetting the Tour-Vuelta double and softpedalling right now. He'll go for the stage today tho

That's what the whole thing suspicious . All opponents are smoked but Froome softpedalling . Come and wake up. but it's like with Armstrong, the hardcore fans will never give in .

What's been his highest w/kg this tour?


I have no idea. If someone looked at his bike computer on the Ventoux , we might have the answers .

Also believe that holding back . Why should he become worse up in 2016 compared with 2013 , he is in his prime right now?

Or is it that opponents trained to do moron accerlation after doing 400-450 watts/kg in 10-15min ?
 
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Complete riders make the diference the first day of the mountains if that day has just a final hard climb, or 2...that is logical.
That day is possible to get a big w/kg.

Complete riders are Froome, Porte, Nibali, Mollema, Tejay, Adam Yates,...

Climbers are: Quintana, Bardet, Purito, Aru...

Not sure were to put Contador and Pinot, but in the middle.

Climbers suffer a lot in flat or even mountain stage with flat in the wind.

Thiss year they got the mountains progresively, so for Froome to make a big differenceone day no poibility.

There are some riders who are not so good in 3 weeks.. as tejay, and at the moment Mollema as well.
But that is not the case of Froome.. and although you can have your bad day anyday along the 3 weeks, he should fly today if that is not the case, and even with a bad day he would be very good today.

He can beat the amazing performance of Dumoulin, but getting time in the hardest climb.

The best days for climbers this year are thi 2 last ones.. I hope to see a good Froome, but a Quintana at his level or even better...If no, of course Quintana is not at his ussual level this year and it is more than the wind between Pyriness and Alps...But at the moment I cant see he is not at his level
 
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tretiak said:
Poursuivant said:
tretiak said:
PremierAndrew said:
I think he's seriously targetting the Tour-Vuelta double and softpedalling right now. He'll go for the stage today tho

That's what the whole thing suspicious . All opponents are smoked but Froome softpedalling . Come and wake up. but it's like with Armstrong, the hardcore fans will never give in .

What's been his highest w/kg this tour?


I have no idea. If someone looked at his bike computer on the Ventoux , we might have the answers .

Also believe that holding back . Why should he become worse up in 2016 compared with 2013 , he is in his prime right now?

Or is it that opponents trained to do moron accerlation after doing 400-450 watts/kg in 10-15min ?

Ah the infamous 'alien' Ventoux attack of 2013, the same Ventoux he climbed slower than the likes of Wiggins and Kreuziger from four years earlier from 2009.
 
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PremierAndrew said:
How is Porte a complete rider but Contador not?

They are quite similar kind of riders, but I said I doubt about Contador, becouse he is more an explosive climber with good recovery and very good in ITT, but especially with climbs and rythm changes.

I think Contador suffer more in the wind and in a flat long ITt than Porte, and he is better in a hard mountains stage, but the difference is smal...for that reason I doubt with him if to put in copmplete riders.. lokk at his weight... the same with Pinot...he is more a climber, but he is not a thin rider and he i doing very good flat ITTs this year.

Contador acusse more that first day in the mountains than Porte IMO.

By the way, Froome must put more time today becouse it could rain next days...
 
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Guys come on, if you want to talk about Porte and Contador specifically then go on to thier own threads.

Any further off topic posts will be deleted.
 
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Pricey_sky said:
Guys come on, if you want to talk about Porte and Contador specifically then go on to thier own threads.

Any further off topic posts will be deleted.

You can't expect no discussion about Froome's rivals in his discussion thread :p
 
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rick james said:
hey, No AC ******!it in here

This is a cyling forum, to explain how cycling work to people is is necesary to put examples.., and it has no sense a thread for everybody... I started cycling forums in a forum with just one thread for everything.. That wa too much, but this is too crazy as well IMO...we talk about cycling in a forum...
 
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PremierAndrew said:
Pricey_sky said:
Guys come on, if you want to talk about Porte and Contador specifically then go on to thier own threads.

Any further off topic posts will be deleted.

You can't expect no discussion about Froome's rivals in his discussion thread :p

You can talk about a riders rivals if your also talking about said rider too.

If you just want to compare 2 riders then that belongs in one of thier own threads. Not somebody else's or there simply is no point in having specific rider threads.
 
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Achieved his 3rd Tour, it's time to add something else to his palmares ( as the others greatest GT specialist).
He needs to win the Giro
 
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And now I want the people saying Froome is not so good in the third week.

He has been always good in the third week, but in the hardest mountains stages, in the third week, the one with less flat, he can fade respect the best climbers of the world. but to say froome fade in Alp D Huez last year is not true..it is just the consecuence he is not a pure climber, but just Quintana was better.