Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[King Boonen]

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A nightmare would be wattage transmition directly to the team car for live analysation.

What makes you think this isn't already being done?

This definitely qualifies as a marginal gain that is 100% legal and gives you a huge advantage.

Transmition is possible, in the Giro 2017 you did have a glimps on the wattage for some riders on broadcast. In TDF they don't want to show these numbers which is strange. Do not know who makes these decisions?

Velon provided the data for the Giro, if I had to guess I would think that it was a financial disagreement between ASO and Velon over TdF data transmission.

 

[The_Beach]

Bad performance today, but still think he looked like the strongest together with Richie on Mont du Chat, so might just have been an offday..

 

[Matteo.]

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Bad performance today, but still think he looked like the strongest together with Richie on Mont du Chat, so might just have been an offday..

He also did great race covering his weakness. He would have lost much more

 

[46&twoWheels]

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Bad performance today, but still think he looked like the strongest together with Richie on Mont du Chat, so might just have been an offday..

the problem is,Aru's shape is not a function of Froome's shape.

Aru just plays his game regardless
Froome is going to win his second tour where he clearly wasn't the best climber

 

[movingtarget]

What is with the gearing ? Froome seemed to be pedaling nowhere. Looked much too low.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

He's been lesser in the mountains all year. No surprise.

He'll still win with the ITT and his strong team. But it's not going to be as easy as before.

 

[spalco]

He was COMPLETELY spent in the finish. Amazing to see, really. I thought he'd lose maybe a couple bike lengths, but that was a significant time loss, although maybe not a decisive amount. We'll see.

 

[movingtarget]

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He's been lesser in the mountains all year. No surprise.

He'll still win with the ITT and his strong team. But it's not going to be as easy as before.

This race would have been even better if Porte and Valverde hadn't crashed out. And now Fuglsang looks doubtful for tomorrow.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Valverde would have done jack ***. Dauphine already told us. People overrate him because of spring season all the time.

Porte might have, but then again, Porte always crashes/off-days/gets sick/whatever

 

[movingtarget]

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Valverde would have done jack ****. Dauphine already told us. People overrate him because of spring season all the time.

Porte might have, but then again, Porte always crashes/off-days/gets sick/whatever

Better than Quintana maybe but probably not making the podium. Porte I can only shake my head, more missed opportunities.

 

[Poursuivant]

Dan Martin must be cursing that 1:15 he lost too.

 

[dziny]

Is the yellow nose ring going to be used in Stage 13? I can imagine he can use it to be hooked up to Landa's bike, that way Lnada won't be able to leave him behind...

 

[Hayabusa]

As a Froome fan, it's ashame that he lost time and the jersey but from a race fans perspective, it's brilliant. First tour in ages where anyone of three riders could win it.

 

[SeriousSam]

 

[silvergrenade]

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Wow...Its gone down more than what I would have expected..
Maybe its right..He doesnt have the shape to win the Tour..

 

[bigcog]

Time waits for no man ...

 

[ontheroad]

Sky look as strong as ever but Froome is definitely weaker. Landa now, as in the Giro, looks to be the strongest climber in the race. Bardet could be seen asking Quintana was he fit to attack after Froome over ran a corner but Quintana's tube was hanging out at that stage. Only for Sky still having 3 doms left at that stage I think he would have went. The other riders will get a lot of confidence from today as that is the first time that Froome cracked in a stage of the tour where it really mattered since he started winning. I expect that we will see more attacks on him in the days to come as they still need time on him prior to the final TT.

 

[Blanco]

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Valverde would have done jack ****. Dauphine already told us. People overrate him because of spring season all the time.

Porte might have, but then again, Porte always crashes/off-days/gets sick/whatever

And what Dauphine told us about Bardet? Valverde was shitty in Dauphine in 2015 also, and then done an excellent Tour

 

[Walkman]

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Sky look as strong as ever but Froome is definitely weaker. Landa now, as in the Giro, looks to be the strongest climber in the race. Bardet could be seen asking Quintana was he fit to attack after Froome over ran a corner but Quintana's tube was hanging out at that stage. Only for Sky still having 3 doms left at that stage I think he would have went. The other riders will get a lot of confidence from today as that is the first time that Froome cracked in a stage of the tour where it really mattered since he started winning. I expect that we will see more attacks on him in the days to come as they still need time on him prior to the final TT.

After one stage?
Landa hasn't showed much on all the other stages. You can't show up once and be the best. Let's see how he does the coming stages.

 

[bigcog]

Contador said later. “I tried it as best I could but I had a very tough time following the pace. You might call that normal, as this morning I was really suffering, and it’s been a very tough stage because of the altitude gain and the huge number of kilometres.". I think the length of stage may have also had an effect on Froome's lack of power at the end of the stage. He doesn't carry a lot of reserves, so it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Looked like Froome was in too big a gear at the end. Kept trying to rev it up and realising either the gear was too high or he just didnt have the legs before going out of the saddle again

 

[Leinster]

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Dan Martin must be cursing that 1:15 he lost too.

Not just the time, but he said after the finish that the injuries from the fall are still hurting him. I was surprised when he sat back down with 250m to go, but in hindsight he did brilliantly to even still be there that long. And to also put time into Froome and most other competitors is a big positive.

 

[Robert5091]

He's too fat! ( either that or it was a repeat of the infamous illegal gel up the Alpe d'Huez but this time there was no LRP)

 

[ppanther92]

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Looked like Froome was in too big a gear at the end. Kept trying to rev it up and realising either the gear was too high or he just didnt have the legs before going out of the saddle again

If that was a too big gear, what does his small gears look like?

I think it was a combination of not bein as dominant as before and length of stage (Bardet regularly features in LBL, Froome has ridden it once (?) with bad result).

 

[movingtarget]

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Looked like Froome was in too big a gear at the end. Kept trying to rev it up and realising either the gear was too high or he just didnt have the legs before going out of the saddle again

If that was a too big gear, what does his small gears look like?

I think it was a combination of not bein as dominant as before and length of stage (Bardet regularly features in LBL, Froome has ridden it once (?) with bad result).

According to Froome he just didn't have the legs and that's how it looked. The pedals were flying but he was going nowhere and he seemed to be having trouble finding a gear he was happy with.