Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Iker_Baqueiro]

Froome, besides being a monster athlete on the bike is a learned man: He speaks French really well. Watched him on an interview the other day.

To me, it is really surprising that a lot of elite athletes active in Europe, from all over the world, barely speak their own language.

 

[SafeBet]

Froome, besides being a monster athlete on the bike is a learned man: He speaks French really well. Watched him on an interview the other day.

He's also fluent in italian as proven countless of times.

Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTCxTLI43ew

 

[Pricey_sky]

Re: Re:

If they attempt to avoid answering these same questions tomorrow then what are we to think? Brailsford's attitude doesn't help matters.

Sometimes we just need a little patience...

Froome did an interview with Dan Friebe for ITV4's rest day programme, he said he doesn't agree with attacking the race leader when they have a mechanical and is glad most of the other GC riders agree with him, though he did say it's each to their own in these scenarios.

He also stated he lost his balance around that corner and did not intentionally mean to swerve into Aru, he apologised and said Aru recognised this straight after the stage and accepted his apology. So it's pretty much story over on that one as far as both parties are concerned and we can move on.

 

[Pennino]

Yeah sure. I suggest to every random race leader in every random stage race on this freaking planet to fake a mechanical then in occasion of a temporary loss of form or breath or something. What the heck. What are these feminins thinking?

Also that stupid waiting for all of his doms who simply fell by their own mistake last year (or was it the year before?).

 

[miguelindurain111]

Yeah sure. I suggest to every random race leader in every random stage race on this freaking planet to fake a mechanical then in occasion of a temporary loss of form or breath or something. What the heck. What are these feminins thinking?

Also that stupid waiting for all of his doms who simply fell by their own mistake last year (or was it the year before?).

Froome is an alpha male making opponents his ***.

 

[Leinster]

Yeah sure. I suggest to every random race leader in every random stage race on this freaking planet to fake a mechanical then in occasion of a temporary loss of form or breath or something. What the heck. What are these feminins thinking?

Also that stupid waiting for all of his doms who simply fell by their own mistake last year (or was it the year before?).

Last year on the Ventoux stage. They fell because Gerrans came down in front of them.

Froome does take liberties with the yellow jersey privilege, though. Stopping for a pee break then; it effectively meant the break survived to the finish, and robbed a few teams of a stage win chance. And also the attacks by Aru the other day, and Nibali 2 years ago, when he was having shifting problems. If his bike is rideable, he should suck it up and continue. Just like every other rider has to.

 

[Pennino]

Yeah sure. I suggest to every random race leader in every random stage race on this freaking planet to fake a mechanical then in occasion of a temporary loss of form or breath or something. What the heck. What are these feminins thinking?

Also that stupid waiting for all of his doms who simply fell by their own mistake last year (or was it the year before?).

Last year on the Ventoux stage. They fell because Gerrans came down in front of them.

Froome does take liberties with the yellow jersey privilege, though. Stopping for a pee break then; it effectively meant the break survived to the finish, and robbed a few teams of a stage win chance. And also the attacks by Aru the other day, and Nibali 2 years ago, when he was having shifting problems. If his bike is rideable, he should suck it up and continue. Just like every other rider has to.

Thanks for the reminder. Maybe I was a bit harsh in that case saying it was their own fault, but the situation still was one of the most ridiculous I've ever witnessed.

But the problem isn't Froome and his mentality, it's the other riders and theirs. Seeing how they forced Aru to stop, their comments afterwards. I'm almost throwing up.

 

[ahsoe]

Yeah sure. I suggest to every random race leader in every random stage race on this freaking planet to fake a mechanical then in occasion of a temporary loss of form or breath or something. What the heck. What are these feminins thinking?

Also that stupid waiting for all of his doms who simply fell by their own mistake last year (or was it the year before?).

Last year on the Ventoux stage. They fell because Gerrans came down in front of them.

Froome does take liberties with the yellow jersey privilege, though. Stopping for a pee break then; it effectively meant the break survived to the finish, and robbed a few teams of a stage win chance. And also the attacks by Aru the other day, and Nibali 2 years ago, when he was having shifting problems. If his bike is rideable, he should suck it up and continue. Just like every other rider has to.

Thanks for the reminder. Maybe I was a bit harsh in that case saying it was their own fault, but the situation still was one of the most ridiculous I've ever witnessed.

But the problem isn't Froome and his mentality, it's the other riders and theirs. Seeing how they forced Aru to stop, their comments afterwards. I'm almost throwing up.

I agree with you.
I am no fan of Froome, but if the other riders neutralize all potential situations, they might as well just stop the race and hand him the yellow jersey.

As I am seeing it, Froome and Sky have more or less the same phsycological advantage as Lance Armstrong had.
The other guys are more or less/in some sense already beaten before the race starts.

And that is what annoys me most, but that is no fault of Froome or Sky - that comes down to the other contenders.

 

[red zone]

who takes over as Froomes top dom now that his top 2 (G/Porte) have crashed out ?

 

[rick james]

The Landa

 

[carton]

Re:

The Landa

Yep. Landa on class; Nieve, on consistency; Henao, on form. But yeah, I'd guess Landa gets the least wind so he can be there at the pointy end.

 

[Pennino]

Yeah sure. I suggest to every random race leader in every random stage race on this freaking planet to fake a mechanical then in occasion of a temporary loss of form or breath or something. What the heck. What are these feminins thinking?

Also that stupid waiting for all of his doms who simply fell by their own mistake last year (or was it the year before?).

Last year on the Ventoux stage. They fell because Gerrans came down in front of them.

Froome does take liberties with the yellow jersey privilege, though. Stopping for a pee break then; it effectively meant the break survived to the finish, and robbed a few teams of a stage win chance. And also the attacks by Aru the other day, and Nibali 2 years ago, when he was having shifting problems. If his bike is rideable, he should suck it up and continue. Just like every other rider has to.

Thanks for the reminder. Maybe I was a bit harsh in that case saying it was their own fault, but the situation still was one of the most ridiculous I've ever witnessed.

But the problem isn't Froome and his mentality, it's the other riders and theirs. Seeing how they forced Aru to stop, their comments afterwards. I'm almost throwing up.

I agree with you.
I am no fan of Froome, but if the other riders neutralize all potential situations, they might as well just stop the race and hand him the yellow jersey.

As I am seeing it, Froome and Sky have more or less the same phsycological advantage as Lance Armstrong had.
The other guys are more or less/in some sense already beaten before the race starts.

And that is what annoys me most, but that is no fault of Froome or Sky - that comes down to the other contenders.

Indeed. As if everybody aknowledges it's just a circus in which everybody has their own little role where the outcome is already decided beforehand. How sad.

 

[Escarabajo]

Yeah sure. I suggest to every random race leader in every random stage race on this freaking planet to fake a mechanical then in occasion of a temporary loss of form or breath or something. What the heck. What are these feminins thinking?

Also that stupid waiting for all of his doms who simply fell by their own mistake last year (or was it the year before?).

This.

As I wrote in another thread. Not only he has the best team and he himself is the strongest rider, now we are going to wait for him every moment he raises his hand!
That's almost game over!!!

 

[Taxus4a]

The Tour is still long , but it has a big merit to be the best till now with those step climbs, short ITT and bad weather some days.

 

[Angliru]

Re: Re:

If they attempt to avoid answering these same questions tomorrow then what are we to think? Brailsford's attitude doesn't help matters.

Sometimes we just need a little patience...

Froome did an interview with Dan Friebe for ITV4's rest day programme, he said he doesn't agree with attacking the race leader when they have a mechanical and is glad most of the other GC riders agree with him, though he did say it's each to their own in these scenarios.

He also stated he lost his balance around that corner and did not intentionally mean to swerve into Aru, he apologised and said Aru recognised this straight after the stage and accepted his apology. So it's pretty much story over on that one as far as both parties are concerned and we can move on.

Once again I have to dip into their history at grand tours and once again the Valverde incident contradicts this philosophy of Froome's (and Sky). It appears to me they believe in waiting on the race leader....when their rider is the race leader, otherwise it suits their purposes to not do so. Froome must think that the media and the fans have very short memories.

 

[silvergrenade]

50th Yellow Jersey Today.
Equals Jacques Anquetils Record. Chapeau.

 

[Son of Amsterhammer]

Re: Re:

If they attempt to avoid answering these same questions tomorrow then what are we to think? Brailsford's attitude doesn't help matters.

Sometimes we just need a little patience...

Froome did an interview with Dan Friebe for ITV4's rest day programme, he said he doesn't agree with attacking the race leader when they have a mechanical and is glad most of the other GC riders agree with him, though he did say it's each to their own in these scenarios.

He also stated he lost his balance around that corner and did not intentionally mean to swerve into Aru, he apologised and said Aru recognised this straight after the stage and accepted his apology. So it's pretty much story over on that one as far as both parties are concerned and we can move on.

Once again I have to dip into their history at grand tours and once again the Valverde incident contradicts this philosophy of Froome's (and Sky). It appears to me they believe in waiting on the race leader....when their rider is the race leader, otherwise it suits their purposes to not do so. Froome must think that the media and the fans have very short memories.

Do you have a link to this by chance? I do have a short memory!!( no kidding)

 

[miguelindurain111]

Re:

50th Yellow Jersey Today.
Equals Jacques Anquetils Record. Chapeau.

Legend. Who will break his record? Has he been born yet?

 

[deValtos]

I didn't even remember Valverde had been in a leaders jersey at a grand tour since 2009. Apparently he was in the 2014 vuelta for a couple of stages though I can't find any incident?

 

[The_Beach]

Re: Re:

If they attempt to avoid answering these same questions tomorrow then what are we to think? Brailsford's attitude doesn't help matters.

Sometimes we just need a little patience...

Froome did an interview with Dan Friebe for ITV4's rest day programme, he said he doesn't agree with attacking the race leader when they have a mechanical and is glad most of the other GC riders agree with him, though he did say it's each to their own in these scenarios.

He also stated he lost his balance around that corner and did not intentionally mean to swerve into Aru, he apologised and said Aru recognised this straight after the stage and accepted his apology. So it's pretty much story over on that one as far as both parties are concerned and we can move on.

Once again I have to dip into their history at grand tours and once again the Valverde incident contradicts this philosophy of Froome's (and Sky). It appears to me they believe in waiting on the race leader....when their rider is the race leader, otherwise it suits their purposes to not do so. Froome must think that the media and the fans have very short memories.

Do you have a link to this by chance? I do have a short memory!!( no kidding)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRK5BFRkUsM&t=3336s - Crash is around the 43 minute mark.
The two situations are different though. Aru attacked when Froome raised his arm and had a mechanical, in the Vuelta Sky attacked and Valverde (and some others) crashed as a consequence of the attack.

 

[silvergrenade]

Re:

I didn't even remember Valverde had been in a leaders jersey at a grand tour since 2009. Apparently he was in the 2014 vuelta for a couple of stages though I can't find any incident?

2012

 

[deValtos]

Re: Re:

I didn't even remember Valverde had been in a leaders jersey at a grand tour since 2009. Apparently he was in the 2014 vuelta for a couple of stages though I can't find any incident?

2012

Ah k thanks.

 

[deValtos]

Hah just watched the video, they could've waited I guess but yea the difference was Sky attacked THEN valverde crashed (due to the pace change) compared to Arus attack being a direct response to Froomes mechanical.

TBH if Aru had attacked and then Froome had a mechnical AFTER I don't think people would've cared as much, the race would've been fully on.

Edit: Froome comes across as a nice chap and I really wouldn't see him attacking someone after they had an issue.

 

[Angliru]

Re: Re:

If they attempt to avoid answering these same questions tomorrow then what are we to think? Brailsford's attitude doesn't help matters.

Sometimes we just need a little patience...

Froome did an interview with Dan Friebe for ITV4's rest day programme, he said he doesn't agree with attacking the race leader when they have a mechanical and is glad most of the other GC riders agree with him, though he did say it's each to their own in these scenarios.

He also stated he lost his balance around that corner and did not intentionally mean to swerve into Aru, he apologised and said Aru recognised this straight after the stage and accepted his apology. So it's pretty much story over on that one as far as both parties are concerned and we can move on.

Once again I have to dip into their history at grand tours and once again the Valverde incident contradicts this philosophy of Froome's (and Sky). It appears to me they believe in waiting on the race leader....when their rider is the race leader, otherwise it suits their purposes to not do so. Froome must think that the media and the fans have very short memories.

Do you have a link to this by chance? I do have a short memory!!( no kidding)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRK5BFRkUsM&t=3336s - Crash is around the 43 minute mark.
The two situations are different though. Aru attacked when Froome raised his arm and had a mechanical, in the Vuelta Sky attacked and Valverde (and some others) crashed as a consequence of the attack.

Does the difference in circumstances really matter? With the advances in radio technology they would've been aware of it pretty quickly and if they really practiced what they preached, they would have preferred to not to take advantage of the ride leader's misfortune by continuing with their attack.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Re: Re:

If they attempt to avoid answering these same questions tomorrow then what are we to think? Brailsford's attitude doesn't help matters.

Sometimes we just need a little patience...

Froome did an interview with Dan Friebe for ITV4's rest day programme, he said he doesn't agree with attacking the race leader when they have a mechanical and is glad most of the other GC riders agree with him, though he did say it's each to their own in these scenarios.

He also stated he lost his balance around that corner and did not intentionally mean to swerve into Aru, he apologised and said Aru recognised this straight after the stage and accepted his apology. So it's pretty much story over on that one as far as both parties are concerned and we can move on.

Once again I have to dip into their history at grand tours and once again the Valverde incident contradicts this philosophy of Froome's (and Sky). It appears to me they believe in waiting on the race leader....when their rider is the race leader, otherwise it suits their purposes to not do so. Froome must think that the media and the fans have very short memories.

Not like Sky drilling it was in response to the crash. They massed on the front first.

Plus that was a crash not a mechanical, Froome clearly said in his interview mechanical