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I think all the guys who crested the final climb first were guys who finished the Tour? That is telling. The guys coming from the Giro are more likely to improve. With this form trajectory he had to attack, and he's gotten surprisingly little reward for it.
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Bardet and Aru really surprised me especially.
Their form went a little down at the end of the TDF while Froome was still on the up.
Their form went a little down at the end of the TDF while Froome was still on the up.
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Although admittedly, Froome's attack, while creating a gap, wasn't able to extend it as he might've hope. As soon as Bardet and Aru pushed on, the gap came down a lot to only a few seconds.
That's quite a blatant lie though isn't it. The competition, minus Uran, is the same; just with Nibali, Chaves, De La Cruz, Roche in Spain (different to any other type of Roche) and Pozzovivo as well.portugal11 said:
Although admittedly, Froome's attack, while creating a gap, wasn't able to extend it as he might've hope. As soon as Bardet and Aru pushed on, the gap came down a lot to only a few seconds.
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Froome said he's after all the bonus seconds he can get - he's gone radical!portugal11 said:
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Interesting someone stayed with him when he zipped, it was discouraging and probably took the wind out. He is used to having no answer to his zip. But he has the lead so early, it will be an interesting Vuelta.
I don't think it was strange. He is expecting that TDF legs may hit him later so better to bite as hard as early as possible today, crush the opposition mentally and physically, but a/ this is not the Froome of 2013, older perhaps, does not have that crushing zip b/ Folks are now used to his crushing zip, stay with him to discourage him, or ride your own pace and you will catch up.rick james said:
Interesting someone stayed with him when he zipped, it was discouraging and probably took the wind out. He is used to having no answer to his zip. But he has the lead so early, it will be an interesting Vuelta.
I think the tactic was good for Sky. They controlled the climb and it's a good thing. At a moment I thought Froome wasn't very well, and so asked its teammates to ride at a good rhythm to avoid attacks, like he did in the Peyragude stage in the Tour de France but is wasn't that.
In the end, the tactic have eliminated several guys from the GC (Contador, Majka), he has taken a minute or more on guys like Zakarin, Keldermann, Kruijswijk, Lopez. And he was close to take some time on Nibali if he hadn't manage to find a good group to come back in the descent.
Who would have ridden if Sky had not done so ? I believe no one, a big group would have climbed the last climb at a slow pace, guys would have attacked with 500m to go and taken something like 15 seconds at the end.
In the end, the tactic have eliminated several guys from the GC (Contador, Majka), he has taken a minute or more on guys like Zakarin, Keldermann, Kruijswijk, Lopez. And he was close to take some time on Nibali if he hadn't manage to find a good group to come back in the descent.
Who would have ridden if Sky had not done so ? I believe no one, a big group would have climbed the last climb at a slow pace, guys would have attacked with 500m to go and taken something like 15 seconds at the end.
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I think he made mistake at the very end by not pulling steady hard tempo to the final km. That mistake enabled Nibs et co to come back.
In the helicopter view around 1.3 km to go, you can see Nibs group is at least 100m back as they don't fit to picture frame. Froome riding steady hard tempo, but stops and looks back forcing Chaves to lead. Only 200m later Froome makes fierce acceleration probably becaus of oh ***-moment of realizing the second group getting close. All too late as we see 5sec later when Nibs appears to the picture.
That stop of tempo and unnecessary acceleration 900m to finish probably costed him the stage win and instead of giving 4sec back to Nibs, would've gained 12.
Not a lot, but marginal gains count
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I think he made mistake at the very end by not pulling steady hard tempo to the final km. That mistake enabled Nibs et co to come back.
In the helicopter view around 1.3 km to go, you can see Nibs group is at least 100m back as they don't fit to picture frame. Froome riding steady hard tempo, but stops and looks back forcing Chaves to lead. Only 200m later Froome makes fierce acceleration probably becaus of oh ***-moment of realizing the second group getting close. All too late as we see 5sec later when Nibs appears to the picture.
That stop of tempo and unnecessary acceleration 900m to finish probably costed him the stage win and instead of giving 4sec back to Nibs, would've gained 12.
Not a lot, but marginal gains count
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Uran was the only one at the TdF this year who stayed with Froome. I think Froome's getting as many bonus seconds as possible in case he gets ambushed by climbers who are way down on GC or he's got a worry about eating correctly that nearly messed up the TdF.
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Uran was the only one at the TdF this year who stayed with Froome. I think Froome's getting as many bonus seconds as possible in case he gets ambushed by climbers who are way down on GC or he's got a worry about eating correctly that nearly messed up the TdF.
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After stage 5, sadly, RIP 2017 Vuelta . . . it will be a done deal, a cooked goose with a fork stuck in for good measure. After stage 5 the race will be for the two remaining podium spots, because the Froominator will have gone nuclear up the short, steep ending climb and put 20 seconds into everyone else. It is coming. I dread it, but the writing is on the wall.
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