Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[telencefalus]

as my friends silver and rick just said i expect froome to demolish the ruta del sol and then win every race he will enter ...

I can see this being the only race he enters this year.

I don't think so , he will race the giro and also the tour

 

[Jspear]

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Will he keep a low profile (not going for the win) or will he smash the rest like he usually do? That is the most interesting question.

Winning isn't the most important. The reaction from the rest of the peloton, the spectators, the cycling world is probably his main concern.

You realize there are bigger victories than MTF records. If I were in his place, I'd use this race to talk to people.

Nothing he says will change people’s mind. We’ve seen this circus many a time. He might as well try and smash the living daylights out of everyone.

 

[Nirvana]

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He'll start his season at Ruta del Sol.
https://twitter.com/TeamSky/status/960454743847038976

it will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets from the fans

That's different between countries, in 2011 Contador was acclaimed even more than Nibali at the Giro but booed at the Tour when he rode in a smilar situation.

 

[portugal11]

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He'll start his season at Ruta del Sol.
https://twitter.com/TeamSky/status/960454743847038976

it will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets from the fans

That's different between countries, in 2011 Contador was acclaimed even more than Nibali at the Giro but booed at the Tour when he rode in a smilar situation.

But I really doubt that froome will be acclaimed in the giro... Contador is the people's champ, froome not so much...

 

[El Pistolero]

Strava records mean nothing, no bike controls there.

 

[Nirvana]

Re: Re:

He'll start his season at Ruta del Sol.
https://twitter.com/TeamSky/status/960454743847038976

it will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets from the fans

That's different between countries, in 2011 Contador was acclaimed even more than Nibali at the Giro but booed at the Tour when he rode in a smilar situation.

But I really doubt that froome will be acclaimed in the giro... Contador is the people's champ, froome not so much...

For sure he's not loved like Contador but i don't think will have problems in Italy, Italians aren't rabid and compulsive hater like Frenchmen. Even Armstrong was accepted without problems in 2009 despite not being liked by most of the people (well, almost all disliked him).
But also in Spain I doubt will have problems, it's the Tour the problem for him, the hate level in France was very high already in the last years, multiple times was booed and they threw to him a bottle of urine two years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if someone will even try to punch him. With him and Moscon both in the race Sky need to hire a group of personal bodyguards for the Tour.

 

[Alexandre B.]

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He'll start his season at Ruta del Sol.
https://twitter.com/TeamSky/status/960454743847038976

it will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets from the fans

That's different between countries, in 2011 Contador was acclaimed even more than Nibali at the Giro but booed at the Tour when he rode in a smilar situation.

But I really doubt that froome will be acclaimed in the giro... Contador is the people's champ, froome not so much...

For sure he's not loved like Contador but i don't think will have problems in Italy, Italians aren't rabid and compulsive hater like Frenchmen. Even Armstrong was accepted without problems in 2009 despite not being liked by most of the people (well, almost all disliked him).
But also in Spain I doubt will have problems, it's the Tour the problem for him, the hate level in France was very high already in the last years, multiple times was booed and they threw to him a bottle of urine two years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if someone will even try to punch him. With him and Moscon both in the race Sky need to hire a group of personal bodyguards for the Tour.

He won't survive l'Alpe d'Huez.

 

[Breh]

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He'll start his season at Ruta del Sol.
https://twitter.com/TeamSky/status/960454743847038976

it will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets from the fans

That's different between countries, in 2011 Contador was acclaimed even more than Nibali at the Giro but booed at the Tour when he rode in a smilar situation.

But I really doubt that froome will be acclaimed in the giro... Contador is the people's champ, froome not so much...

For sure he's not loved like Contador but i don't think will have problems in Italy, Italians aren't rabid and compulsive hater like Frenchmen. Even Armstrong was accepted without problems in 2009 despite not being liked by most of the people (well, almost all disliked him).
But also in Spain I doubt will have problems, it's the Tour the problem for him, the hate level in France was very high already in the last years, multiple times was booed and they threw to him a bottle of urine two years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if someone will even try to punch him. With him and Moscon both in the race Sky need to hire a group of personal bodyguards for the Tour.

Who needs bodyguards when you have Moscon as a teammate?

How both Sky and Froome are pretending nothing is going on is beyond me.

 

[Nirvana]

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At Moscon after the Reichembach incident they wrote on Twitter "We are waiting you on the Mur de Bretagne".

 

[WheelofGear]

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At Moscon after the Reichembach incident they wrote on Twitter "We are waiting you on the Mur de Bretagne".

The next Tour will be a combination of pro-cycling and UFC.

 

[Jspear]

Re: Re:

He'll start his season at Ruta del Sol.
https://twitter.com/TeamSky/status/960454743847038976

it will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets from the fans

That's different between countries, in 2011 Contador was acclaimed even more than Nibali at the Giro but booed at the Tour when he rode in a smilar situation.

But I really doubt that froome will be acclaimed in the giro... Contador is the people's champ, froome not so much...

For sure he's not loved like Contador but i don't think will have problems in Italy, Italians aren't rabid and compulsive hater like Frenchmen. Even Armstrong was accepted without problems in 2009 despite not being liked by most of the people (well, almost all disliked him).
But also in Spain I doubt will have problems, it's the Tour the problem for him, the hate level in France was very high already in the last years, multiple times was booed and they threw to him a bottle of urine two years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if someone will even try to punch him. With him and Moscon both in the race Sky need to hire a group of personal bodyguards for the Tour.

Bodyguards won’t help during the race.

 

[Tim Booth]

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At Moscon after the Reichembach incident they wrote on Twitter "We are waiting you on the Mur de Bretagne".

yes, but the The Final Problem is they don't know if he was pushed or if it was simply a case of Reichenbach Falls

 

[rick james]

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At Moscon after the Reichembach incident they wrote on Twitter "We are waiting you on the Mur de Bretagne".

Keep it classy France

 

[SafeBet]

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it will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets from the fans

Or from the other riders.

 

[Tim Booth]

According to @Gazzetta_it, Froome will ride @TirrenAdriatico and @Tourof_TheAlps before @giroditalia

 

[Velolover2]

Interesting. What are the other riders thinking about it?

Is he going full gas or just warming up? Winning is almost too risky.

Lots of questions.

 

[movingtarget]

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Interesting. What are the other riders thinking about it?

Is he going full gas or just warming up? Winning is almost too risky.

Lots of questions.

Knowing Froome he won't be sitting back if a win is possible.

 

[Velolover2]

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Interesting. What are the other riders thinking about it?

Is he going full gas or just warming up? Winning is almost too risky.

Lots of questions.

Knowing Froome he won't be sitting back if a win is possible.

Exactly what I was thinking. But I'm not sure it's a good idea to win the race (yeah, I know it sounds crazy), even if he has the legs.

It's not worth it. Build trust and bridges instead of adding more fuel to the fire.

 

[Tim Booth]

To build trust and bridges instead of adding more fuel to the fire he'd be better served by not racing !

 

[Velolover2]

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To build trust and bridges instead of adding more fuel to the fire he'd be better served by not racing !

I disagree.

A quiet race without any action is a actually a smarter way of coming back than not doing anything at all.

Of course, he shouldn't be destroying the rest like he usually does.

Slow and steady > not doing racing at all > going all-in in a warm-up race.

 

[Tim Booth]

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To build trust and bridges instead of adding more fuel to the fire he'd be better served by not racing !

I disagree.

A quiet race without any action is a actually a smarter way of coming back than not doing anything at all.

Of course, he shouldn't be destroying the rest like he usually does.

Slow and steady > not doing racing at all > going all-in in a warm-up race.

some websites have run polls about this. In response to the (or a very similar) question -
Chris Froome should not start in races until the outcome of the Salbutamol case is determined
- the results show over 80% in agreement.

 

[Velolover2]

I'm not talking about what public opinion but what would be the best thing to do for Froome.

I agree that showing your superiority in a small race is a suicidal idea when you are accused of doping abuse but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't race at all. A quiet start without a big result would be the ideal scenario for him.

You can't just skip your entire calendar because of a salbutamol case.

 

[silvergrenade]

From inrng.com

What races could he lose?
Under the vanilla application of the rules Froome would lose his Vuelta title but keep his bronze medal from the Bergen worlds.Normally an athlete is stripped of all results but this is the specified substance rules again where the results are lost from the event where he was tested but not subsequent events.

Froome will keep all his results except the Vuelta in the worst case scenario. Why is Vegni crying everwhere?
If Froome completes the Giro he keeps that result.

 

[Tim Booth]

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I'm not talking about what public opinion but what would be the best thing to do for Froome.

I agree that showing your superiority in a small race is a suicidal idea when you are accused of doping abuse but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't race at all. A quiet start without a big result would be the ideal scenario for him.

You can't just skip your entire calendar because of a salbutamol case.

If you're not talking about public opinion then what were you talking about when you said 'Build trust and bridges instead of adding more fuel to the fire.'

 

[Velolover2]

I wouldn't care too much about what the public think. It's really a non-issue. But if the riders from the other teams, race organizers and sports directors are hostile towards you, it's a huge problem.

A humble debut is the answer. Froome not racing at all would be weird too. Skipping racing entirely is not the answer either when you are planning to win the Giro/Tour-double. That's why I proposed a middle ground.