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Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 28 35.0%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 46 57.5%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 18 22.5%

  • Total voters
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Pricey_sky said:
It depends if he can have a good rest then come back in form, we saw at the Vuelta last year his legs were gone. This year his Tour has been harder as he hasn't had to just pace Wiggins up the mountains.

Vueat is GT, world is one day. Apple and orange. The only question is if he really wants the world title or not.
 
maxmartin said:
Vueat is GT, world is one day. Apple and orange. The only question is if he really wants the world title or not.

I agree its different however if he isn't in form then he wont feature highly especially in a one day race where there are so many variables. Riders like Nibali who have had a rest and will peak again for this will have the edge.
 
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Pricey_sky said:
I agree its different however if he isn't in form then he wont feature highly especially in a one day race where there are so many variables. Riders like Nibali who have had a rest and will peak again for this will have the edge.

What I am saying rest is enough for one day race, Nibali will race Vuelta, so Froom will have more than enough rest days for him to target World if he wants to. But most likely he will domestique for Wiggins to show him how good a team player he is. LOL
 
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MatParker117 said:
I have a feeling Wiggins will already have a rainbow jersey.

Your feeling might be right, but don't forget this is on Italian soil, and Nibali and some other one day specialists have more credentials than him and Froom.
 
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Zam_Olyas said:
If he maintain this form or atleast eigthy percent of this level of form he is showing will he be able to win three in a row? .. I don't think he will, two seems plausible though.

Nibali at 100% is almost on the same level as Froome. No way he could've won this year's Giro @ 80%.

Ventoux:
23. 2013: 59:00 Chris Froome 21.86 km/h

32. 2009: 59:05 Vincenzo Nibali 21.83 km/h

Perhaps he could win a Vuelta like the 2010 in terms of competition, but it's very hard nowadays to win against fresher guys.
 
Pentacycle said:
Nibali at 100% is almost on the same level as Froome. No way he could've won this year's Giro @ 80%

Ventoux:
23. 2013: 59:00 Chris Froome 21.86 km/h

32. 2009: 59:05 Vincenzo Nibali 21.83 km/h

So you dont think he will win next year? .. if nibali have his giro form. Froome is better at TT and a better climber.
 
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Zam_Olyas said:
So you dont think he will win next year? .. if nibali have his giro form. Froome is better at TT and a better climber.

I don't know if the 2009 Nibali returns in 2014...just like Alberto. He's shown good signs this year though.

Of course Froome has overwhelming power, and also based on last year the choice is easy right now, but anything can happen in a year's time.
 
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Zam_Olyas said:
I said if he maintains this level of form.

Three years ago all the talk was about Schleck and Contador dominating the TdF over the next years. All under the assumption that top riders maintain their form/abilities easily throughout several seasons.

However a lot can happen, even the smallest inconvenience can cause a Tour fav to fall out of contention. That's why it's pretty useless to discuss what would happen if nothing changes; this just doesn't happen.
 
Pentacycle said:
Three years ago all the talk was about Schleck and Contador dominating the TdF over the next years. All under the assumption that top riders maintain their form/abilities easily throughout several seasons.

However a lot can happen, even the smallest inconvenience can cause a Tour fav to fall out of contention. That's why it's pretty useless to discuss what would happen if nothing changes; this just doesn't happen.

FFs i was asking a hypothetcial question with a "IF" without any mishaps/inconvenience. Okay, then.... Do you think Nibali would have defeat him at this TDF?
 
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I missed the stage today because I was out on a training ride. Does anyone know where I can find a video of the stage so I can see how ridiculously strong Froome was?
 
I really don't understand why people seem to insist that what Froome is doing is more monstrous than what any of his competitors did. Yes he's head and shoulders above the rest, but that's because they're nowhere near their best performance not because he is supernatural.

Now I know everyone is referring to the last 15k, which were quite quick yes, but they started the climb at a very leisurely pace, not to mention there was a massive headwind.

You should look at the full acent time, which was 59 minutes. If you look at the link below that means he was slower than both Schlecks, Contador, Armstrong and even Kreuziger were in 2009. And barely faster than Pellizotti, Nibali and Wiggins were this year.

http://climbing-records.blogspot.ro/

Basically Froome is riding at the level of 2009 (and probably 2010) top riders. I think anyone looking at Contador and Schleck now can see they're not riding at that level. So I believe Froome is not superhuman I believe others are no longer at the level they were leaving a gap for him.

No why it is that Froome is at the top of his ability while Contador and others aren't could have many explanations, and I don't feel this is the right forum for it.

In conclusion I believe that it's very much the easy way out to say what he's doing isn't normal because of how he's defeating the competition, without any consideration of their level. And honestly I think it comes from Sky hate.

Honestly I started this tour hoping Froome wouldn't win, but this complete and utter hatchet job being done on him is making me support him more and more.
 
Ramira said:
I really don't understand why people seem to insist that what Froome is doing is more monstrous than what any of his competitors did. Yes he's head and shoulders above the rest, but that's because they're nowhere near their best performance not because he is supernatural.

Now I know everyone is referring to the last 15k, which were quite quick yes, but they started the climb at a very leisurely pace, not to mention there was a massive headwind.

You should look at the full acent time, which was 59 minutes. If you look at the link below that means he was slower than both Schlecks, Contador, Armstrong and even Kreuziger were in 2009. And barely faster than Pellizotti, Nibali and Wiggins were this year.

http://climbing-records.blogspot.ro/

Basically Froome is riding at the level of 2009 (and probably 2010) top riders. I think anyone looking at Contador and Schleck now can see they're not riding at that level. So I believe Froome is not superhuman I believe others are no longer at the level they were leaving a gap for him.

No why it is that Froome is at the top of his ability while Contador and others aren't could have many explanations, and I don't feel this is the right forum for it.

In conclusion I believe that it's very much the easy way out to say what he's doing isn't normal because of how he's defeating the competition, without any consideration of their level. And honestly I think it comes from Sky hate.

Honestly I started this tour hoping Froome wouldn't win, but this complete and utter hatchet job being done on him is making me support him more and more.

This is not the clinic.
 
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I'd say about 90-95% genius today. I look forward to Alpe d'Huez, it will be an epic 37 minutes flat ride. :cool: :D

I do hope though that he's not so selfish that he decides to go ahead and win every single mtf stage, otherwise it will get very boring and old very quickly.
 
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Ramira said:
In conclusion I believe that it's very much the easy way out to say what he's doing isn't normal because of how he's defeating the competition, without any consideration of their level. And honestly I think it comes from Sky hate.

Honestly I started this tour hoping Froome wouldn't win, but this complete and utter hatchet job being done on him is making me support him more and more.

So you're employing the same defense they Sky fans keep espousing. That their training techniques are superior to everyone elses. Right? I mean, apparently the rest of the riders in the world don't know how to train properly in order to be on the same "level" as Sky. You seem to forget that without Froome in this race, suddenly the GC is VERY close together.

It's all perspective.
 

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