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Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 32 32.3%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 57 57.6%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 22 22.2%

  • Total voters
    99
Maybe he gets ridiculed because he keeps giving *** excuses and claiming he'll get better anyday now while reportedly being one of the 2 highest earning riders in the peloton and all he can do is stay within the time limit.

i believe the ridicule started well before he was making those claims.

there was real joy from some to see him struggling even in his initial comeback in 2020.

not that I expect a similar outcome, Lemond also lied and concealed the extent of his injury and recovery in 1987 so as to get the contract from PDM for 1988. He would likely have retired had he not got the contract… I don’t ever expect Froome to deliver anything on his return. However, who is to blame for that? Him for trying? Or the dumba$$e$ at ISN that have been proven over and over to have the absolute worst judgment? Especially nowadays when there are very scientific ways of getting a sense of an athletes capacity/potential.
 
I am re-watching the Eurosport coverage now and with 50k to go Chris Froome is near the front of the peloton, behind teammate Simon Clarke.
With 19k to go the pace picks up and riders like Mark Padun are desperately hanging onto the back of the peloton, along with Israel riders Taj Jones and James Piccoli (sorry never heard of them).
As the peloton crests the Cat.4 climb with 11k to go I cannot pick-out Froome and assume he was dropped on the way up.
That seems confirmed as he has been swept up by the chasing Dylan G group with about 7-8km to go and stays with them to finish 2mins43secs down on today's winner WvA.
Disappointing.
 
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He is 3 minutes before Roglic..possible final winner. He just have to be at those same 3 minutes, because of course 10th will be at more than 3 minutes of the winner. Of course that looks inpossible, but with 2 minutes more lost with Roglic I think he will be top ten ..lasts climb is really hard... that way I said will be difficult..but not impossible...He could pass all those people in those 2 stages...but more likely he won't be top 20...less than top 25 for me would be disappointing now..but anyway meritable all what he is doing.

I bet you a dinner he will be better than Van Aert at GC...despite he has been second at Tirreno.

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I am re-watching the Eurosport coverage now and with 50k to go Chris Froome is near the front of the peloton, behind teammate Simon Clarke.
With 19k to go the pace picks up and riders like Mark Padun are desperately hanging onto the back of the peloton, along with Israel riders Taj Jones and James Piccoli (sorry never heard of them).
As the peloton crests the Cat.4 climb with 11k to go I cannot pick-out Froome and assume he was dropped on the way up.
That seems confirmed as he has been swept up by the chasing Dylan G group with about 7-8km to go and stays with them to finish 2mins43secs down on today's winner WvA.
Disappointing.
At 33 Km he is on the middle of the bunch with Clark at his wheel.
At 22 Jm he is without teamates at about 90 position (I did count the riders) aparently fighting to improve.
At 19 Km. when Padun, Tolhoek and Rolland droped, he was at the end of the buch.
At 10.7 it looks like he is alone dropped of the buch behind DG group,

Well, this is the kind of stage not very good for him,
tipycal day where he need help of the team
Disssapointing but not too much, I prefer wait till the end of the race.
 
At 33 Km he is on the middle of the bunch with Clark at his wheel.
At 22 Jm he is without teamates at about 90 position (I did count the riders) aparently fighting to improve.
At 19 Km. when Padun, Tolhoek and Rolland droped, he was at the end of the buch.
At 10.7 it looks like he is alone dropped of the buch behind DG group,

Well, this is the kind of stage not very good for him,
tipycal day where he need help of the team
Disssapointing but not too much, I prefer wait till the end of the race.
Even more disappointing when you see who finished ahead of him.
 
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At 33 Km he is on the middle of the bunch with Clark at his wheel.
At 22 Jm he is without teamates at about 90 position (I did count the riders) aparently fighting to improve.
At 19 Km. when Padun, Tolhoek and Rolland droped, he was at the end of the buch.
At 10.7 it looks like he is alone dropped of the buch behind DG group,

Well, this is the kind of stage not very good for him,
tipycal day where he need help of the team
Disssapointing but not too much, I prefer wait till the end of the race.
Considering 2 of his teammates finished in the front group you can’t really blame the team for not being there for him, he just couldn’t hold onto the wheels.
 
He started getting ridiculed the moment he went from giving a wheel to Greg Henderson to dropping the elite of the peloton over every mountain pass. As he should have been.

His fans haven't thought this through either (neither has Froome IMO), i.e. if (maybe when) Israel gets relegated, Froome will shoulder the blame. If that happens, the ridicule will be deafening.

His fans will scream "that's unfair!", but it's a fact the star rider without performances will always shoulder the responsibility for failures. His results don't exist in a vacuum, i.e. his team needs UCI points. It's not cyclotourisme.

If people want to dismiss the last few years from his legacy, go ahead, but when viewed in context of his entire career his Israel escapade won't look good. Especially if it ends really badly for his employer.
 
Froome, flying alone to Europe, white Kenyan guy, trained by a black cyclist trailblazer (Kinjah), racing in SouthAfrica, coming from the black continent to learn and race in Europe. like the African riders we cheer for. he could have lot of fans. but he was white and a Sky rider
 
His fans haven't thought this through either (neither has Froome IMO), i.e. if (maybe when) Israel gets relegated, Froome will shoulder the blame. If that happens, the ridicule will be deafening.

His fans will scream "that's unfair!", but it's a fact the star rider without performances will always shoulder the responsibility for failures. His results don't exist in a vacuum, i.e. his team needs UCI points. It's not cyclotourisme.

If people want to dismiss the last few years from his legacy, go ahead, but when viewed in context of his entire career his Israel escapade won't look good. Especially if it ends really badly for his employer.
I don't think Froome will take the ridicule when the teams entire recruitment has "get a team that would've been really good 5 years ago for too much money to boot."

Froome 2019- present is unquestionably a meme rider, but just it's just that.
 
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I've been lurking for ~2yrs (even longer on the main site) and finally got baited to register. I had written a big text wall, but will keep it at this (insert sarcasm):

If Froome managed to become 64th in a 32k WT TT while "feeling a little off" (remember just two months ago people were discussing his 111th place in Bartali vs. 11th place recently), at just 1:30 from the top 10, then imagine what he could do in 1-2 months from now. Froome winning the Vuelta confirmed.
 
I don't think Froome will take the ridicule when the teams entire recruitment has "get a team that would've been really good 5 years ago for too much money to boot."

Froome 2019- present is unquestionably a meme rider, but just it's just that.

You're maybe right. But there's a huge section of (casual) cycling followers out there who're actually really positive towards Froome right now (in France in particular, judging by online comments, i.e. because the story of the former champion now struggling is traditionally a popular one here), but it's fickle.

One small headline "Israel-Premier Tech relegated" & all those same people will suddenly realize Froome wasn't free to just ride around for vane reasons. There are consequences & they're called UCI points.


And this is why he gets roasted in some parts.

Hint: all riders have niggles, pains, illness & feel like hell on their bike. With Froome it's just one hilarious excuse after another excuse. He posted the same cr*p on Instagram as well, i.e. spamming his social media accounts with the same post & getting those likes & well wishes he craves.
 
Where's this come from Chris?
At the start of the Dauphine you were talking about being "niggle" and "injury" free for the first time in three years.
2022 was an upward trajectory with no lingering issues from your crash.
And now you are off?
What's really going on?