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Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 28 35.9%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 44 56.4%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 18 23.1%

  • Total voters
    78
Valverde and Rebellin could still win one day races at the veteran stage of their careers. Froome was never that versatile, he was a pure stage race rider and hardly ever even rode the short races. Valverde's best years as a grand tour rider were long long ago but he could still compete in the shorter stage races.
 
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Actually Froome has only won 1 UCI one day race. The 1.2 Giro del Capo II back in 2009.
Other wins are 7 crits and an amateur race in France in 2007.
The best result in the big one day races is a 36th in L-B-L in 2013.
He was 11th last year in the Mercan Alps Maritimes classic, one of his best result this year, so maybe the problem is not one day races, but the parcours.

He speaks he would like yo shine at Classics like San Sebastian, so I hope this year he can recover the level to be on the fight. But, of course, he is a rider for stage races, especially long.

205 Km today, 5000 +m with the young promise Ritticello at Sierra Nevada.
 
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The dawg is back. Slowly building, getting the miles.
And it was in that Alpes Maritimes classic.

Not big conclusions about that.... That day the climb was at a good pace from the begining, first Israel, but Froome didnt work really, and later FDJ, with a great climb from the very young Lenny Martinez.

If the climb would have done in this Paris Nice at a high pace, I think woul have been better for Vingegard, I think they were attacking/stopping, so it is not the same.

Martinez put the group just in 14 riders, droping prople as Sam Bennet, and Froome was there, one of the first of the line...

As curiosity is ok ...But just indicates Froome wanst very bad then, and Pogacar didnt a superperformance.

But yes, day by day closer to Pogacar... ;)
 
Froome starts in Catalunya next week. I expect another improvement to Rwanda.

Looking good for Catalunya. He might not be climbing with the best, yet, but these will be important race days to further improve his shape. The plan remains to climb with the best from June, or at the TdF at the latest.

Chris is 100% on track, he‘s where he needs to be at the end of March…
He is working well..as usual, but not issues this winter after his Covid and all the phisichal problems asociated at la Vuelta and later. It looks like he is okey again...He said he wanted this year to recover the feelings he had at Tour the France (It was not just AlpnD Huez, he was quite strong at Pirineos) as soon as possible and then built from that base...So I understand he Will try to be at that level at Catalunya. Except to be very strong, and it is not likely, he will have to work some days for Corbin..or another good rider for stage 1 and similar...or for Woods...close to the best at the Queen stage of Tirreno, so It Will be difficult to measure his level, at least not with clasificación, but if he is quite strong, for sure we will notice some way.
 
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Climbing with the best? You guys are absolutely delusional. Even in last year's TDF he got dropped from a breakaway, he wasn't climbing with the best at all.
Skyjunper talk about June, not now. Yes, he didnt climb with the bedt since his crash almost 4 years ago...but the objetive remains the same. It is going to be difficult,and year by year is most difficult to believe...Maybe he show on Catalunya the same that his last 2 times he races, but some people still keep the faith that this time he can start on march at the level he was at le Tour 22, becouse other way would be difficult to believe in a high level in June. I think that without Covid he would hace been figthen for the top ten al La Vuelta...(difficult top ten with Hindley, Urán, O Connor, forns Rider Who has been on the last positions on the races the last 3 years, and Tour Down Under wasnt different), but the reference of Catalunya, with no pressure, will be more important.
 
Until we see real evidence that Chris Froome has genuine POWER in climbs and time trials then we can continue to count him out.
Yes, he can ride all day long, he can be in the saddle for 5,6,7 hours a day and does still possess incredible, elite stamina for riding a bike for long distances.
However, he does not have the necessary power to remain competitive in a real, live World Tour level race where he is surrounded by professional cyclists who are now better than him.
 
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Until we see real evidence that Chris Froome has genuine POWER in climbs and time trials then we can continue to count him out.
Yes, he can ride all day long, he can be in the saddle for 5,6,7 hours a day and does still possess incredible, elite stamina for riding a bike for long distances.
However, he does not have the necessary power to remain competitive in a real, live World Tour level race where he is surrounded by professional cyclists who are now better than him.
What you mean be competitive? Tour de France is not a world Tour level race? Alp Huez stage is a random stage? 3rd is a no competitive level? 25 ( although he was looking for breaks) at GC when he caught Covid is non competitive? ). The objetive is not that level, but that level isbgonoetitive for a lot of races. But anyway, could he get him or not that level, to see the fight and the progress on that is nice.
 
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Valverde and Rebellin could still win one day races at the veteran stage of their careers. Froome was never that versatile, he was a pure stage race rider and hardly ever even rode the short races. Valverde's best years as a grand tour rider were long long ago but he could still compete in the shorter stage races.

Valverde was second in the Vuelta in 2019...