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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 34.4%

  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 65 53.3%

  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 28 23.0%
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Ripper

Ripper

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Lequack said:
Just one day to go

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Is that comment photoshopped in there? It can't be serious!
 
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Ilmaestro99

Ilmaestro99

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Startlist on Czech tour is actually quite weak compared to previous years, and its a hard 4 days of racing. Let's see if froome can compete with the big favourites ben zwihoff and rein taaramae. There will likely be an less known young talent that wins
 
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Pinot's goat

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He has had back problems the last few weeks. This is actually good news as it means a lack of tv coverage won't deprive us of seeing him drop all his opponents.
 
gregrowlerson

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DaveJones2 said:
Completely disagree with this sentiment really.

This entire situation is Sylvan Adam's fault and yet I don't see any admission from him of this fact. Froome suffered life-changing injuries in that crash, and at his age the chances of him ever recovering to anywhere near his previous level were extremely slim. You don't need to be a sports injury specialist to know this. Adams would have been advised on this by medical experts and would have been well aware of the huge risk he was taking. There was no evidence whatsoever of a decent recovery and yet he took the risk to offer a huge & long contract with seemingly no exit clauses in this context.

Clearly this massive gamble hasn't paid off, and now the situation is playing out exactly as you would expect.

There is no doubt Froome has tarnished his legacy by continuing with such futility, but a large percentage of elite athletes will clearly behave in this manner given it's this attitude that got them to such a level in the first place. So again, very much not unexpected.

Adams "telling it like it is" would involve admitting he took a massive gamble, probably against medical advice (it's not as if Froome could have concealed the extent of his injuries), and offered a ridiculous contract without any mitigating clauses whatsoever.

Presumably what he's actually doing is starting an attempt to humiliate Froome into retiring by waging a very public war of words - which is only necessary because of his own incompetence in the first place.
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Great posts.

The insane contract is like the one that basketballer Scottie Pippen signed, in reverse. Pippen signed a long term deal as he was entering his prime, and as the NBA was growing significantly financially. 'Everyone' told him that it was a bad contract, don't sign it, much in the same way that everyone told Adams that this is a bad contract, don't offer it.

Pippen signed it, and Adams offered it.

Both decided to complain publicly years later before the contract was completed, trying to remove their responsibility and get out of a poor decision.

Maybe I'll enter every lottery in the world for the next decade, then complain about this bad deal if I don't win.

You can't always have your cake and eat it too.
 
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gregrowlerson

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samhocking said:
Beloki is from an era where, yes, those sorts of injuries were handled like a normal man on the street would receive, ie good-enough to walk to the office and do a 9-5, but not race a bike for 3 weeks. Today is totally different, just the way such injury is operated on and monitored is light years ahead of Beloki's day and there's a dedicated professional industry simply dealing with sports injury and therapy, Beloki had none of that, he had some pain killers, the local GP and a swanny and that was it probably.
My view is all the experts reported the injury wasn't a problem to fully recover from, Adams saw an opportunity to get Froome for less than his market value and Brailsford wasn't prepared to renew at the amount Adams was and so Froome went with Adams offer. In the two years that it did take Froome to get past all the recovery set backs from the plate etc, the sports science in Jumbo, UAE & Ineos has moved on quite a level compared to the Sky days and certainly compared to a team like ISN who are not in that level of professionalism whatsoever. We only need to look at riders in the top 5 at the time with Froome such as Landa, Pinot, Bardet, Uran etc to see the old guard are now top 20 or lower ranked GC riders now, not podium. We can also see with Bernal the process is long, certainly longer than 6 months claimed it would take Froome by the medical experts handling Froome's injuries.
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Beloki was injured in 2003, not 1903.

We were 99.5% sure that Froome wasn't getting back to his 2011-18 level when Adams offered him that ludicrous contract.
 
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