Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[nick101]

and you're trying to infer that riis will "fix" contador's "knee" also. I think more research needs to be done before brazenly making these sort of claims.
jw as for majka, how did he actually improve??

 

[willbick]

and you're trying to infer that riis will "fix" contador's "knee" also. I think more research needs to be done before brazenly making these sort of claims.
jw as for majka, how did he actually improve??

Its hardly a 'brazen claim' given their history

 

[LaFlorecita]

Its hardly a 'brazen claim' given their history

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[nick101]

there's no proof to suggest that it is true. there's a mountain of proof to suggest it's wrong

 

[theyoungest]

It has nothing to do with owning up to anything. The method with which Majka made a huge jump in performance is irrelevant to this subforum, I'll be happy to tell you my view in another subforum, but that has no place here. What is relevant is that a prominent teammate was able to do that, regardless of the means. That is a good sign for Contador, because otherwise Froome would have little competition this Tour.

Outright saying that Saxo are on *edited for clinic reasons* would be better than these half-as.sed implications

 

[Miburo]

Voigt's comments are irrelevant. The guy thinks TJ will finish 3th, how can you take him serious?

 

[jens_attacks]

Voigt's comments are irrelevant. The guy thinks TJ will finish 3th, how can you take him serious?

yep gotta luv jens. the only one from the whole peloton before 09 tour to say armstrong will beat contador

 

[Cimber]

Outright saying that Saxo are on *edited for clinic reasons* would be better than these half-as.sed implications

If Saxo is ón that I dare not even think about what V-power Sky is fueling. Also Majka didnt really jump in performance. Before he joined the team he was invited to a training camp where he alone was able to follow Bertie. However, if you wanna talk about jump in performance, an individual who used to have to hold on to the team car to just complete mountain stage and know that individual is the biggest favorite to win the Tour. But this is the wrong forum

 

[nick101]

yep gotta luv jens. the only one from the whole peloton before 09 tour to say armstrong will beat contador

who would've though that?? how wrong everyone was. he nearly took yellow and his bullying severely impacted on contador's performance. if it wasn't for that bad day on le grand bornand he would've come second.

 

[willbick]

Yes it is the wrong forum. But u say it anyway lol

 

[Miburo]

who would've though that?? how wrong everyone was. he nearly took yellow and his bullying severely impacted on contador's performance. if it wasn't for that bad day on le grand bornand he would've come second.

5 minutes behind on Contador? If contador wanted it could have been 10 minutes, what are you smoking? Must be some good ****.

And ok let's assume LA takes yellow with 10 sec. AC won't attack him right?

Ok what happens then in annecy? Contador destroys him

 

[Netserk]

The next to post clinic innuendo will have to face the consequences

Stop it!

 

[nick101]

5 minutes behind on Contador? If contador wanted it could have been 10 minutes, what are you smoking? Must be some good ****.

And ok let's assume LA takes yellow with 10 sec. AC won't attack him right?

Ok what happens then in annecy? Contador destroys him, fool.

he only gained just over a minute on lance in that tt so did not "destroy" him . as for contador not trying; on every opportunity he got, he tried to gain time on lance and the others. Armstrong would've restrained contador or ridden him off the road (literally not metaphorically) if he was in yellow and contador tried anything.

 

[Miburo]

he only gained just over a minute on lance in that tt so did not "destroy" him . as for contador not trying; on every opportunity he got, he tried to gain time on lance and the others. Armstrong would've restrained contador or ridden him off the road (literally not metaphorically) if he was in yellow and contador tried anything.

Contador could have riden way from him whenever he wants, yellow won't make a difference but that's besides the point right?

He would take a minute on the ITT and then contador is in yellow thus your point is invalid.

Good try

 

[webbie146]

Contador could have riden way from him whenever he wants, yellow won't make a difference but that's besides the point right?

He would take a minute on the ITT and then contador is in yellow thus your point is invalid.

Good try

He would be bashed by the entire world including Obama for attacking Lance if LA was in yellow lol

 

[nick101]

he did ride away several times as I already said. he wouldn't have attacked Armstrong in yellow. Attacking your own team mate who's in yellow especially if it's Lance Armstrong world famous bully, isn't going to happen. Having a team mate in yellow would make a massive difference.
I was getting to that point about losing a minute to contador. Armstrong could've done another repeat of the stage where the whole team rode against contador and created a split in the peleton to gain time on him. but if contador was in yellow after the tt (which he would've been), that wouldn't happen.

but still despite armstrong's nasty strategies, contador would've won by over a minute due to the tt.

 

[spalco]

He would be bashed by the entire world including Obama for attacking Lance if LA was in yellow lol

Contador would not have given a **** about that.

Anyway, I don't remember Voigt saying that, but if he did, he wasn't that wrong in any case. Armstrong certainly did a lot better in 2009 than I expected.

 

[nick101]

well if he'd attacked Armstrong in yellow he would've had to face the team everyday and an angry bruyneel etc etc etc . I wouldn't be surprised to see Armstrong get into a fist fight with him after the stage if he did that. The team would've made life living hell for him if he'd "stolen" yellow from lance. contador would have been smart enough not to raise the ire of Armstrong and most of the team and instead win the tt, yellow and get back on side with the team. seems smarter to me and the more obvious choice. and if he attacked lance in yellow, it would further encourage the team to support Armstrong more than they already were and ride against him like they did earlier in the race. as chris froome knows, having a good team behind you is a very important factor in winning a race.

anyway this is a froome thread. enough with the evil Armstrong talk

 

[Rollthedice]

Maybe it's a sign that Froome will be the next LA? Of course I'm thinking about multiple TdF wins.

 

[airstream]

5 minutes behind on Contador? If contador wanted it could have been 10 minutes, what are you smoking? Must be some good ****.

And ok let's assume LA takes yellow with 10 sec. AC won't attack him right?

Ok what happens then in annecy? Contador destroys him

10? Where would they have been gained I wonder?

 

[MellowJohnny]

Its okay Jens Voigt has come out and said Froome will win the tour

Froome must have left an impression on him unlike Tyler Hamilton did :-(

 

[skwalo]

Well, obviously nobody can say who's going to win the Tour, all we can do is look at what's happened so far this season and project a bit based on that. Froome has been kicking eveyone's **** so far, and the one guy who's beaten him won't be at the Tour. Froome has been having the same kind of run-up to the Tour that Contador used to have, when he'd win 3 or 4 or 5 stage races while getting ready. I wouldn't automatically count Contador out, but he's been invisible this year compared to the past. To have a prayer he's going to have to ramp it up dramatically and show us a totally different rider that what we've seen so far. Can he do that? Sure he's smart and experienced, but if he doesn't have the legs then no way. This is Froome's to lose (which is of course very possible too).

 

[Pricey_sky]

I suppose riders can give their opinions as well as us. From what we have seen Froome is a worthy favourite. Everyone else needs to step up another level but there are several riders who are capable of that. It should be a great race.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I suppose riders can give their opinions as well as us. From what we have seen Froome is a worthy favourite. Everyone else needs to step up another level but there are several riders who are capable of that. It should be a great race.

yea, I kind of like to hear riders opinions on the matter. Besides what should riders say when journalists ask the question?

 

[Miburo]

Well, obviously nobody can say who's going to win the Tour, all we can do is look at what's happened so far this season and project a bit based on that. Froome has been kicking eveyone's **** so far, and the one guy who's beaten him won't be at the Tour. Froome has been having the same kind of run-up to the Tour that Contador used to have, when he'd win 3 or 4 or 5 stage races while getting ready. I wouldn't automatically count Contador out, but he's been invisible this year compared to the past. To have a prayer he's going to have to ramp it up dramatically and show us a totally different rider that what we've seen so far. Can he do that? Sure he's smart and experienced, but if he doesn't have the legs then no way. This is Froome's to lose (which is of course very possible too).

Good first post.