Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[jens_attacks]

too early to say, a bit worring though because pretty much everyone else will improve in the second week. we'll see more after the itt

 

[SeriousSam]

He was the strongest climber and time trialler in the Dauphine until he crashed. Seems crashes affect him quite a lot. If Sky find a way to construct a bicycle where the stem is in line with where he needs to look it will be the largest marginal gain yet.

 

[kingjr]

He needs a HUD on his helmet or something

 

[bigcog]

He needs a HUD on his helmet or something

Yes, one from F22 Raptor

 

[Angliru]

He was the strongest climber and time trialler in the Dauphine until he crashed. Seems crashes affect him quite a lot. If Sky find a way to construct a bicycle where the stem is in line with where he needs to look it will be the largest marginal gain yet.

I really don't think it's stem staring. Seems a habit that he has almost like a nervous tick or something like that. He will often have his head down for so long that he can't be actually analyzing any data. It was posted recently or maybe I read it somewhere else that it is some type of breathing technique that supposedly is another of the Sky marginal gains that seemingly only Froome utilizes.

 

[hfer07]

I'm a bit troubled by what took place today for him: SKY did a massive work to destroy everyone and apparently Froome was the only one chocked, because he simply couldn't respond to Contador, Nairo & Purito- and please do not bring the crash excuse, because he was able to outsprint then yesterday.

Is he really on top form? Froome's style is to glow right from the beginning to bulk his gain towards the end, when he usually fades. Is he trying the opposite this time? to reserve all to the end?

interesting...

 

[IronCQ]

Please Sky buy Chris a pair of this....

Mmmm,ok, maybe two pair just in case

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

He was the strongest climber and time trialler in the Dauphine until he crashed. Seems crashes affect him quite a lot. If Sky find a way to construct a bicycle where the stem is in line with where he needs to look it will be the largest marginal gain yet.

Froome has roughly the same build as Gesink and Hesjedal. Tall and skinny. All have similar problems. Hesjedal is a better bike handler though. But they all seem bad at handling bad weather and recovery after crashes is non-existant

 

[DFA123]

I'm a bit troubled by what took place today for him: SKY did a massive work to destroy everyone and apparently Froome was the only one chocked, because he simply couldn't respond to Contador, Nairo & Purito- and please do not bring the crash excuse, because he was able to outsprint then yesterday.

Is he really on top form? Froome's style is to glow right from the beginning to bulk his gain towards the end, when he usually fades. Is he trying the opposite this time? to reserve all to the end?

interesting...

I thought Sky were deliberately riding quite slowly when on the front, the group behind was pretty big and not at all strung out. Not sure that they were trying to destroy everyone, more just trying to control the race at the pace Froome wanted.

 

[bigcog]

I thought Sky were deliberately riding quite slowly when on the front, the group behind was pretty big and not at all strung out. Not sure that they were trying to destroy everyone, more just trying to control the race at the pace Froome wanted.

This ^. He's already said stuff that suggests that he's not confident about his form and the crash won't have helped given how "delicate" he seems to be ...

 

[SeriousSam]

I thought Sky were deliberately riding quite slowly when on the front, the group behind was pretty big and not at all strung out. Not sure that they were trying to destroy everyone, more just trying to control the race at the pace Froome wanted.

Valverde disagrees that it was slow:

The Sky riders really scared everyone, even Froome himself - I got surprised they rode so fast while their leader wasn't as brilliant as he thought he could be.

 

[cineteq]

I thought Sky were deliberately riding quite slowly when on the front, the group behind was pretty big and not at all strung out. Not sure that they were trying to destroy everyone, more just trying to control the race at the pace Froome wanted.

You got it. That's called bluffing.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Before the Vuelta started I believed Froome would improve the more the race went on, so kind of opposite to what we've seen from him in the past. I believe Froome said the same in an interview beforehand but I didn't see it. Today was a bad day from him, but he only lost 20 seconds. No need to panic yet but he can't afford another bad day now.

 

[hfer07]

Before the Vuelta started I believed Froome would improve the more the race went on, so kind of opposite to what we've seen from him in the past. I believe Froome said the same in an interview beforehand but I didn't see it. Today was a bad day from him, but he only lost 20 seconds. No need to panic yet but he can't afford another bad day now.

indeed. Is likely he'll be in Rojo after the ITT, but what is intriguing is his form & capacity to challenge Contador & Quintana, well knowing in advance they get stronger in the last week- specially Nairito, which hasn't been affected by any injury and training has been progressive towards La Vuelta, unlike Froome & Alberto. SKY as a team did a great job, but as I wrote- they hurt Froome today.....

we'll see...

 

[ILovecycling]

indeed. Is likely he'll be in Rojo after the ITT, but what is intriguing is his form & capacity to challenge Contador & Quintana, well knowing in advance they get stronger in the last week- specially Nairito, which hasn't been affected by any injury and training has been progressive towards La Vuelta, unlike Froome & Alberto. SKY as a team did a great job, but as I wrote- they hurt Froome today.....

we'll see...

If he will be en roja tuesday evening,things might get even more interesting.IMO There is nothin better for Froome than to be in leaders jersey.It give him confidence etc,he will be stronger then.We will see.


btw Accepted.

 

[Franklin]

You're imaging it. They may have had a brief disagreement at one time. Surely Valverde would have a bigger feud with Belkin for the 2013 Tour echelon stage.

I might be imagining it, but considering the ongoing sniping I'm quite okay in thinking I'm not imagining things at al

And as for Olympics, don't you think they may have been trying to win themselves.

No. Seriously no.

Nibali just kept on attacking to spite Wiggo. Or are we claiming that Nibali actually was thinking he could ride away 60 km out? No tactics, no leader. Just attacking till he folded.

Same with Spain, they just drilled on front. No tactics at all.

And I have no idea what interviews you're on about. Is Valverde furious with Froome for his two year ban?

And this third bit makes me realize there's some national bias here. If you do not realize Sky and it's leaders have been suggesting how clean they are contrarty to those dirty spanish I just can only conclude you are just not listening.

And yeah, the hopscotch avoiding to comment on Froome autobiography shows that even you know that that one hurt his image as you can only realize he's extremely paranoid, holds many gruges and is borderline.

Heck, the book itself makes him damaged goods. Contador has been making fun of Froome in images portraying his insane fantasies.

 

[May0maniac]

His powermeter should look like this, that would be badass

 

[Parker]

I might be imagining it, but considering the ongoing sniping I'm quite okay in thinking I'm not imagining things at al

No. Seriously no.

Nibali just kept on attacking to spite Wiggo. Or are we claiming that Nibali actually was thinking he could ride away 60 km out? No tactics, no leader. Just attacking till he folded.

Same with Spain, they just drilled on front. No tactics at all.

And this third bit makes me realize there's some national bias here. If you do not realize Sky and it's leaders have been suggesting how clean they are contrarty to those dirty spanish I just can only conclude you are just not listening.

And yeah, the hopscotch avoiding to comment on Froome autobiography shows that even you know that that one hurt his image as you can only realize he's extremely paranoid, holds many gruges and is borderline.

Heck, the book itself makes him damaged goods. Contador has been making fun of Froome in images portraying his insane fantasies.

You're a fan. You want a feud. Just like they have in reality TV. That's normal. I like that too. But it's just not there.
Obviously at the Olympics, Spain's tactics of putting Valverde in a breakaway group was just out of spite and nothing about trying to win. About 20 countries seem to have a feud with GB.

Feuds really don't last that long, I also lost you at 'hopscotch'.

Valverde is seen as a doper because he got busted for doping. Nothing to do with Sky. Every team parades themselves as clean these days, even Movistar. Sky don't have a monopoly on that. They haven't even signed up for the MPCC publicity plan.

(Also, from what I've heard, Valverde isn't that popular anyway).

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

(Also, from what I've heard, Valverde isn't that popular anyway).

He's not popular with commentators and journalists from certain countries, but he's actually pretty well-liked in the pro peloton. Obviously he has (had) issues with other competitive pro cyclists, but he isn't alone in that.

 

[ILovecycling]

You're a fan. You want a feud. Just like they have in reality TV. That's normal. I like that too. But it's just not there.
Obviously at the Olympics, Spain's tactics of putting Valverde in a breakaway group was just out of spite and nothing about trying to win. About 20 countries seem to have a feud with GB.

Feuds really don't last that long, I also lost you at 'hopscotch'.

Valverde is seen as a doper because he got busted for doping.Nothing to do with Sky. Every team parades themselves as clean these days, even Movistar. Sky don't have a monopoly on that. They haven't even signed up for the MPCC publicity plan.

(Also, from what I've heard, Valverde isn't that popular anyway).

No,he didnt.

Also keep the clinic talk off this thread.

 

[TANK91]

Not tactics, but he certainly didn't lose it based on strength.

Exactly he was far better than Nibali on the other stages.

 

[TANK91]

How much will he need over Contador to be a threat do you think guys?. "If" he takes 2 minutes would be a great Vuelta.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

How much will he need over Contador to be a threat do you think guys?. "If" he takes 2 minutes would be a great Vuelta.

If he continues to climb like he has he would need atleast 2 min over AC. But I can't see why his form shouldn't improve just like the others. So we might suddenly see him winning after being s.t as AC after the tt

 

[ILovecycling]

If he continues to climb like he has he would need atleast 2 min over AC. But I can't see why his form shouldn't improve just like the others. So we might suddenly see him winning after being s.t as AC after the tt

1.00 to 1.30 would be fine for dawg imo. (so after tt 30secs to minute)

 

[TANK91]

If he continues to climb like he has he would need atleast 2 min over AC. But I can't see why his form shouldn't improve just like the others. So we might suddenly see him winning after being s.t as AC after the tt

Oh i do hope your rigt about him him improving mate. I doubt it though.