I ain't got no love for Quintana since then anymore. First Stelviogate, then he just finally really attacks Froome when he's sick. To me he's a coward. As much talent as he's got!
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staubsauger said:I ain't got no love for Quintana since then anymore. First Stelviogate, then he just finally really attacks Froome when he's sick. To me he's a coward. As much talent as he's got!
It's stage racing buddy, if you don't like it then you are watching the wrong sport. Should of Quintana just sat next to Froome handing him tissues and giving him warm tea? As far as "stelviogate" goes, well with or without that Quintana wins that Girostaubsauger said:I ain't got no love for Quintana since then anymore. First Stelviogate, then he just finally really attacks Froome when he's sick. To me he's a coward. As much talent as he's got!
StryderHells said:It's stage racing buddy, if you don't like it then you are watching the wrong sport. Should of Quintana just sat next to Froome handing him tissues and giving him warm tea? As far as "stelviogate" goes, well with or without that Quintana wins that Girostaubsauger said:I ain't got no love for Quintana since then anymore. First Stelviogate, then he just finally really attacks Froome when he's sick. To me he's a coward. As much talent as he's got!
staubsauger said:I ain't got no love for Quintana since then anymore. First Stelviogate, then he just finally really attacks Froome when he's sick. To me he's a coward. As much talent as he's got!
If he had attacked him hard earlier on already, I would be quiet. If it wasn't for Stelviogate the year before as well, I would also be quiet. But together, I stay with my wordsAngliru said:staubsauger said:I ain't got no love for Quintana since then anymore. First Stelviogate, then he just finally really attacks Froome when he's sick. To me he's a coward. As much talent as he's got!
This post is sheer idiocy. The idea of an attack is to hit your opponent where they are weak and/or when they least expect it. If Froome wasn't fearful of the consequences of his rivals being aware that he was sick, he would've found no need to hide it from them. What is cowardly is internet warriors calling riders cowards from the anonymous safety of their pc's.
staubsauger said:If he had attacked him hard earlier on already, I would be quiet. If it wasn't for Stelviogate the year before as well, I would also be quiet. But together, I stay with my wordsAngliru said:staubsauger said:I ain't got no love for Quintana since then anymore. First Stelviogate, then he just finally really attacks Froome when he's sick. To me he's a coward. As much talent as he's got!
This post is sheer idiocy. The idea of an attack is to hit your opponent where they are weak and/or when they least expect it. If Froome wasn't fearful of the consequences of his rivals being aware that he was sick, he would've found no need to hide it from them. What is cowardly is internet warriors calling riders cowards from the anonymous safety of their pc's.
I think that something is lost in translation here. Maybe OP is calling Quintana a coward because he didn't attack before last stage, and not because he attacked when Froome got sick?Jspear said:staubsauger said:If he had attacked him hard earlier on already, I would be quiet. If it wasn't for Stelviogate the year before as well, I would also be quiet. But together, I stay with my wordsAngliru said:staubsauger said:I ain't got no love for Quintana since then anymore. First Stelviogate, then he just finally really attacks Froome when he's sick. To me he's a coward. As much talent as he's got!
This post is sheer idiocy. The idea of an attack is to hit your opponent where they are weak and/or when they least expect it. If Froome wasn't fearful of the consequences of his rivals being aware that he was sick, he would've found no need to hide it from them. What is cowardly is internet warriors calling riders cowards from the anonymous safety of their pc's.
I can understand some people being upset about Stelvio...but how in the world can you criticize him for his attack in this Tour. Did Quintana know Froome was sick? Please tell - what is a professional rider being paid to win the TdF suppose to do? The yellow jersey didn't have a flat, didn't crash, didn't get caught up in any other bad luck.
damian13ster said:I think that something is lost in translation here. Maybe OP is calling Quintana a coward because he didn't attack before last stage, and not because he attacked when Froome got sick?Jspear said:staubsauger said:If he had attacked him hard earlier on already, I would be quiet. If it wasn't for Stelviogate the year before as well, I would also be quiet. But together, I stay with my wordsAngliru said:staubsauger said:I ain't got no love for Quintana since then anymore. First Stelviogate, then he just finally really attacks Froome when he's sick. To me he's a coward. As much talent as he's got!
This post is sheer idiocy. The idea of an attack is to hit your opponent where they are weak and/or when they least expect it. If Froome wasn't fearful of the consequences of his rivals being aware that he was sick, he would've found no need to hide it from them. What is cowardly is internet warriors calling riders cowards from the anonymous safety of their pc's.
I can understand some people being upset about Stelvio...but how in the world can you criticize him for his attack in this Tour. Did Quintana know Froome was sick? Please tell - what is a professional rider being paid to win the TdF suppose to do? The yellow jersey didn't have a flat, didn't crash, didn't get caught up in any other bad luck.
Thats the only way I can justify that post
I already knew this during the Tour, Porte made a remark about Froome still being so strong despite the illness he'd been struggling with. Só they're not just saying it in hindsight. Also, it's not Sky PR, because Sky did want Froome to apply for a TUE, it was Froome himself who didn't want to. In any case, he won the Tour fair and square, regardless of what happened.Metabolol said:So what if he was sick, that falls under the recovery aspect in a GT. It should also be noted that it's easy to say after the tour is finished. Useful for playing mindgames with your opponents and as usual Sky are putting a PR spin on it with their supposed refusal of using a TUE. If any of it is true that is.
Angliru said:SeriousSam said:Froome was sick in the last part of the Tour but refused treatments needing a TUE!
Froome was well his way to winning his second Tour de France title when he fell ill. The Team Sky rider went into the final week with a 3:10 lead over second place Nairo Quintana (Movistar). That would be reduced to just over a minute by the time they reached Paris at the end of the week. He lost most time on the final mountain stage to Alpe d'Huez and said afterwards that he was close to cracking.
Unwilling to show any signs of weakness, Froome resorted to holding his breath so as not to cough in front of his rivals. It wasn't until one keen-eared journalist noticed a change in Froome's voice following the penultimate stage that he admitted he had been ill throughout closing stages.
" woke up all congested, blocked up, sore throat and I could feel it getting down into my chest, sort of tightening it. I was put on a short course of antibiotics but it had no effect. I was trying to hold it in, so my rivals wouldn't hear me coughing and wheezing . . . the most difficult times were on the start line where I had [Nairo] Quintana on one side, Contador on the other," Froome explained.
"I would be standing there with a burning sensation to cough or needing to get some phlegm up, but I would hold my breath to stop myself. I didn't want them to see I was battling with this. Just don't let them see anything. I couldn't wait for the neutral zone so I could get to the side of the road, blow my nose and get it all up."
That explains why Quintana was able to drop him towards the very end. Even sick, he was still better than many of the other top climbers in the world.
I better dig out the thigh high fly-fishing boots to wade through this line of bs. Sounds like another over dramatization to add to his next book: "I climbed Alpe d'Huez with the best climbers in the world all while holding my breath (and with asthma) and lived to tell the world about it!" So we are to believe that he raced for miles upon miles waiting for the neutral zone without getting rid of any of the supposed phlegm that was building up in his system? Okay.
dacooley said:for many it's so difficult to get over their hate or pathological dislike for froome, even impossible i'd say
Jspear said:dacooley said:for many it's so difficult to get over their hate or pathological dislike for froome, even impossible i'd say
I'm not justifying it at all, but...have you ever wondered why some riders have a large group of people that greatly dislike them? There are some riders that one might dislike, but the fan hardly feels the need to speak of this dislike. Other riders like Froome seem to attract great negativity. Wonder why....
del1962 said:Jspear said:dacooley said:for many it's so difficult to get over their hate or pathological dislike for froome, even impossible i'd say
I'm not justifying it at all, but...have you ever wondered why some riders have a large group of people that greatly dislike them? There are some riders that one might dislike, but the fan hardly feels the need to speak of this dislike. Other riders like Froome seem to attract great negativity. Wonder why....
Maybe because he consistently beats their favorite rider
Vasilis said:I already knew this during the Tour, Porte made a remark about Froome still being so strong despite the illness he'd been struggling with. Só they're not just saying it in hindsight. Also, it's not Sky PR, because Sky did want Froome to apply for a TUE, it was Froome himself who didn't want to. In any case, he won the Tour fair and square, regardless of what happened.Metabolol said:So what if he was sick, that falls under the recovery aspect in a GT. It should also be noted that it's easy to say after the tour is finished. Useful for playing mindgames with your opponents and as usual Sky are putting a PR spin on it with their supposed refusal of using a TUE. If any of it is true that is.
del1962 said:Jspear said:dacooley said:for many it's so difficult to get over their hate or pathological dislike for froome, even impossible i'd say
I'm not justifying it at all, but...have you ever wondered why some riders have a large group of people that greatly dislike them? There are some riders that one might dislike, but the fan hardly feels the need to speak of this dislike. Other riders like Froome seem to attract great negativity. Wonder why....
Maybe because he consistently beats their favorite rider
because fans, unlike riders, are extremely touchy creatures and while bertie or nibs say to themselves,: 'Every year I must prove I'm the best', part of their fans have nothing left but throw mud at froome. eventually, the 2015 tour changed nothing - froome is severely underestimated on here primarily because people fear him and don't want to see him winning.Jspear said:dacooley said:for many it's so difficult to get over their hate or pathological dislike for froome, even impossible i'd say
I'm not justifying it at all, but...have you ever wondered why some riders have a large group of people that greatly dislike them? There are some riders that one might dislike, but the fan hardly feels the need to speak of this dislike. Other riders like Froome seem to attract great negativity. Wonder why....
BINGO!!!!!!del1962 said:Jspear said:dacooley said:for many it's so difficult to get over their hate or pathological dislike for froome, even impossible i'd say
I'm not justifying it at all, but...have you ever wondered why some riders have a large group of people that greatly dislike them? There are some riders that one might dislike, but the fan hardly feels the need to speak of this dislike. Other riders like Froome seem to attract great negativity. Wonder why....
Maybe because he consistently beats their favorite rider
rick james said:BINGO!!!!!!del1962 said:Jspear said:dacooley said:for many it's so difficult to get over their hate or pathological dislike for froome, even impossible i'd say
I'm not justifying it at all, but...have you ever wondered why some riders have a large group of people that greatly dislike them? There are some riders that one might dislike, but the fan hardly feels the need to speak of this dislike. Other riders like Froome seem to attract great negativity. Wonder why....
Maybe because he consistently beats their favorite rider