Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[Blanco]

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The brazenness of what he pulled in this Giro, I have no respect at all for him. The sad part is he's actually made me actually respect Lance as a racer. That is NOT something I had thought anyone could actually do.

You didn't respect Lance for his performances but your favourite rider is Valverde?
:lol: :lol:

So?

 

[tobydawq]

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The brazenness of what he pulled in this Giro, I have no respect at all for him. The sad part is he's actually made me actually respect Lance as a racer. That is NOT something I had thought anyone could actually do.

You didn't respect Lance for his performances but your favourite rider is Valverde?
:lol: :lol:

I also have a very hard time seeing the absurdity of being able to like Valverde and not Lance.

Valverde is a very nice person, Lance is not. I think all riders in the peloton would agree with this to some extent.

 

[bigcog]

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The brazenness of what he pulled in this Giro, I have no respect at all for him. The sad part is he's actually made me actually respect Lance as a racer. That is NOT something I had thought anyone could actually do.

You didn't respect Lance for his performances but your favourite rider is Valverde?
:lol: :lol:

So?

He won't answer, he's just a Valverde fanboy who hates Froome. Which is fair enough, but why hide it when it is so transparent.

 

[Blanco]

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The brazenness of what he pulled in this Giro, I have no respect at all for him. The sad part is he's actually made me actually respect Lance as a racer. That is NOT something I had thought anyone could actually do.

You didn't respect Lance for his performances but your favourite rider is Valverde?
:lol: :lol:

So?

He won't answer, he's just a Valverde fanboy who hates Froome. Which is fair enough, but why hide it when it is so transparent.

I didn't asked him (her).

 

[Koronin]

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The brazenness of what he pulled in this Giro, I have no respect at all for him. The sad part is he's actually made me actually respect Lance as a racer. That is NOT something I had thought anyone could actually do.

You didn't respect Lance for his performances but your favourite rider is Valverde?
:lol: :lol:

So?

He won't answer, he's just a Valverde fanboy who hates Froome. Which is fair enough, but why hide it when it is so transparent.

I didn't asked him (her).

(Although not really important, but I'm a she.) Tobydog actually more or less did answer it. Valverde is a nice person, Lance is not. Even at the time he was winning people knew he wasn't a nice person (although a very good athlete). Also I prefer Valverde's style of racing and the fact that he races all year and actually tries to win every race he entered. Lance only ever cared about the Tour. There are actually a heck of a lot of differences between the two. Not sure why that is hard to figure out.

 

[movingtarget]

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With the strength of his team, he is probably the favourite to win the Tour if he is allowed to start. He can probably afford to defend all the way in the mountains like last year. If only for that, I hope he either doesn't start or loses time early in the race.

With his antics this weekend, I kinda get the feeling the closer wins last year were just faking it and knowing he could never lose.

if I believed that I wouldn't be watching cycling. Team Sky have three riders in the top 13 and the stage was won by an ex team Sky rider from last season....... But the race was much more entertaining with Froome having to play catch up. If Dumoulin had his chance again he would have ridden a bit differently especially on descents. His inattention on descents almost cost him the Giro last year. Froome is just a smarter rider, who takes more risks and is more versatile. On top of that he has THE TEAM and it's not even the best of the best team for Sky. I still think fatigue will get him in the Tour if he starts but he has more chance of doing it than anyone else currently riding.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Let me break it out to you. All champions are ruthless. They are the top 0.00001 percent of the top 1 percent. They didn't get there by being nice. They got there by determination and will to win.

"Boardman said Indurain's triumph established anew his status as the greatest cyclist of this era.

"Indurain makes you sick because he's actually a nice bloke, as well," Boardman said. "You can't actually work yourself up, there's no hate involved, no anger in getting motivated to try to beat him. He is a true champion.""

 

[SHAD0W93]

Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

 

[oldcrank]

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With his antics this weekend, I kinda get the feeling the closer wins last year were just faking it and knowing he could never lose.

Yup. There can't be many left today who still believe in their heart of hearts
that Froomey didn't gift Alberto his final victory on the Angliru in the Vuelta
last year. Well, actually I can think of about four, but other than them.

 

[yaco]

This has been a brutal Giro and if Froome wins or even finishes on the podium then he is from another planet.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I honestly don't know. I wouldn't put it past Froome to try and stick it to Contador one last time.

 

[silvergrenade]

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Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

Okay, I'll bite.
How is Froome a cry baby when things dont go his way? If anything, its the exact oppposite.

 

[silvergrenade]

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I honestly don't know. I wouldn't put it past Froome to try and stick it to Contador one last time.

If Froome really gave a *** about Contador in that race he wouldn't have let him go.
Bertie was racing his own race, Froome his own.

 

[rick james]

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Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

Okay, I'll bite.
How is Froome a cry baby when things dont go his way? If anything, its the exact oppposite.

look he's a cry baby, he's a insult to cycling, he bloodies my eyes every time he turns the pedals he's ugly on a bike, he can't descend, he can't race without a strong team...just get with the script and join the hate wagon...if they tell lies enough times it will eventually stick

 

[rick james]

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I honestly don't know. I wouldn't put it past Froome to try and stick it to Contador one last time.

Aye that Froome first thought, A retired cyclist that hasn't troubled him for years

 

[dacooley]

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Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

Okay, I'll bite.
How is Froome a cry baby when things dont go his way? If anything, its the exact oppposite.

It's kind of grievance which takes a moral writing revenge at least. it's been an exciting giro with froome crashing in the tt recon, looking like a 20th strongest rider at punchy finishes, crumbling into pieces on grand sasso and going backwards to Jerusalem on the whole. but later on just one single stage and everything gets worse than ever. that's a really tough crook in the loot to put up with, isn't it?

 

[Red Rick]

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Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

Okay, I'll bite.
How is Froome a cry baby when things dont go his way? If anything, its the exact oppposite.

look he's a cry baby, he's a insult to cycling, he bloodies my eyes every time he turns the pedals he's ugly on a bike, he can't descend, he can't race without a strong team...just get with the script and join the hate wagon...if they tell lies enough times it will eventually stick

If you lump actual arguments together with the random pieces of vitriol then you don't actually have to adress the actual arguments, amiright?

This isn't a one sided thing.

 

[rick james]

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Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

Okay, I'll bite.
How is Froome a cry baby when things dont go his way? If anything, its the exact oppposite.

look he's a cry baby, he's a insult to cycling, he bloodies my eyes every time he turns the pedals he's ugly on a bike, he can't descend, he can't race without a strong team...just get with the script and join the hate wagon...if they tell lies enough times it will eventually stick

If you lump actual arguments together with the random pieces of vitriol then you don't actually have to adress the actual arguments, amiright?

This isn't a one sided thing.

so is Froome a cry baby?

 

[silvergrenade]

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Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

Okay, I'll bite.
How is Froome a cry baby when things dont go his way? If anything, its the exact oppposite.

look he's a cry baby, he's a insult to cycling, he bloodies my eyes every time he turns the pedals he's ugly on a bike, he can't descend, he can't race without a strong team...just get with the script and join the hate wagon...if they tell lies enough times it will eventually stick

If you lump actual arguments together with the random pieces of vitriol then you don't actually have to adress the actual arguments, amiright?

This isn't a one sided thing.

so is Froome a cry baby?

He doesnt have to respond.
If Froome actually was, we would have already had 10000 posts related to him being a crybaby already. :lol:

 

[SHAD0W93]

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Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

Okay, I'll bite.
How is Froome a cry baby when things dont go his way? If anything, its the exact oppposite.

His lack of team support in the beginning of his transformation, having to support Wiggins, people calling his team out on illegal feeds repeatedly, his wife not being allowed to run her mouth, people not waiting when he crashes yet he refuses to, people not wanting to help him when he takes no prisoners, the crash at 15 Tour, I would never comprise the sport or race if I was suspected, why can no one believe I am clean, etc.

 

[silvergrenade]

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Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

Okay, I'll bite.
How is Froome a cry baby when things dont go his way? If anything, its the exact oppposite.

It's kind of grievance which takes a moral writing revenge at least. it's been an exciting giro with froome crashing in the tt recon, looking like a 20th strongest rider at punchy finishes, crumbling into pieces on grand sasso and going backwards to Jerusalem on the whole. but later on just one single stage and everything gets worse than ever. that's a really tough crook in the loot to put up with, isn't it?

Naah, he's a quitter and a crybaby.
:lol:

 

[SHAD0W93]

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I honestly don't know. I wouldn't put it past Froome to try and stick it to Contador one last time.

If Froome really gave a **** about Contador in that race he wouldn't have let him go.
Bertie was racing his own race, Froome his own.

Froome has shown with his past actions that he wants to win and win everything he can to demolish his competition. Let's say he did pass Contador, that would have been the ultimate insult to injury from Froome.

 

[El Pistolero]

Why does Froome lie about easily varified facts? He did not gain most of his time on descents.

 

[silvergrenade]

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Froome is like Armstrong, Merckx, and Hinault had a baby attitude and person wise yet a huge cry baby if something does not go his way. There are many reasons why not to like him though people are allowed to like who they want to and just because they have a different opinion does not mean it is wrong. Excluding all the clinic talk, his rise to the results he has is extraordinary for the level he showed. Cavendish has been my favorite rider since I started watching in 09 while for many here they do not like him.
Just like someone can like Valverde and not Froome who are 2 completely different personalities and individuals.

I haven't liked Froome since 11 but congratulations on the win. Hopefully it does not go the same way as Cpntador's did because that would have ruined the race dynamics.

Okay, I'll bite.
How is Froome a cry baby when things dont go his way? If anything, its the exact oppposite.

His lack of team support in the beginning of his transformation, having to support Wiggins, people calling his team out on illegal feeds repeatedly, his wife not being allowed to run her mouth, people not waiting when he crashes yet he refuses to, people not wanting to help him when he takes no prisoners, the crash at 15 Tour, I would never comprise the sport or race if I was suspected, why can no one believe I am clean, etc.

Lets go one by one.

1. His lack of team support in the beginning of his transformation, having to support Wiggins: Every rider goes through that. Did you go in the Mikel Landa thread and state he's a crybaby too? Ridiculous. Its his right to ask for team support when he's strongest. Proven by the fact that he is by a fair margin the best GT rider of his generation. Jesus wept.

2.people calling his team out on illegal feeds repeatedly: How is he a crybaby then? Arent others crybabies?
As far as I recall, he's taken one illegal feed and got a penalty. Enlighten me if there are more please. Also would be great to get a link of teams calling Sky out for illegal feeds. Thanks.

3. people not waiting when he crashes yet he refuses to: He's the yellow jersey. Thats what the unsaid rules and the history of the sport says. He's not the first and wont be the last. Utterly ridiculous.

4. people not wanting to help him when he takes no prisoners: When did you see him being a crybaby about it? He taking prisoners or no prisoners is irrelevant to the argument. Utterly ridiculous.

5. the crash at 15 Tour: What crash? What crybaby? Dont get this statement at all tbh.

6. I would never comprise the sport or race if I was suspected, why can no one believe I am clean, etc:
Everything fuckin body says the same thing. From Bertie, Nibali, TD, everyone. Crybaby? LMAO.

No reasoning, just clear hate. You're looking for something which aint there buddy. BLNT.

 

[silvergrenade]

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I honestly don't know. I wouldn't put it past Froome to try and stick it to Contador one last time.

If Froome really gave a **** about Contador in that race he wouldn't have let him go.
Bertie was racing his own race, Froome his own.

Froome has shown with his past actions that he wants to win and win everything he can to demolish his competition. Let's say he did pass Contador, that would have been the ultimate insult to injury from Froome.

Well, he didnt. Again looking for something which aint there buddy. BLNT