Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[MartinGT]

Nasty injury. The footage of him putting his jacket on during the recon and taking risks, madness. A bit silly of him but it could have happened at any other time.

Brailsfraud very shaken which is understanding.

Get well soon Dawg. Be with your family and rest up.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Yeah, Beloki was never the same or even close to the same. He went on to become a pretty mediocre domestique at Liberty Seguros and we never heard more from him after Operacíon Puerto which wasn't so good to the old ONCE-team. I think I remember him being in the break and helping Heras win the Vuelta that horrible and rainy day along with Michele Scarponi tho, so he did something at least. It was literally on the next day after of his best performance in the mountains putting huge pressure on Lance Armstrong on Alpe d' Huez in 2003 he crashed on that extremely hot day in the Alps, I think around 40 degrees. That really, really sucked, but if I remember correctly, the media was much more interested in Armstrong and his pretty amazing safe.

 

[tobydawq]

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Yeah, Beloki was never the same or even close to the same. He went on to become a pretty mediocre domestique at Liberty Seguros and we never heard more from him after Operacíon Puerto which wasn't so good to the old ONCE-team. I think I remember him being in the break and helping Heras win the Vuelta that horrible and rainy day along with Michele Scarponi tho, so he did something at least. It was literally on the next day after of his best performance in the mountains putting huge pressure on Lance Armstrong on Alpe d' Huez in 2003 he crashed on that extremely hot day in the Alps, I think around 40 degrees. That really, really sucked, but if I remember correctly, the media was much more of Armstrong and his pretty amazing safe.

Of course it was less consequential but that save certainly elevated that crash to the most famous crash in cycling history.

 

[ice&fire]

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Yeah, Beloki was never the same or even close to the same. He went on to become a pretty mediocre domestique at Liberty Seguros and we never heard more from him after Operacíon Puerto which wasn't so good to the old ONCE-team. I think I remember him being in the break and helping Heras win the Vuelta that horrible and rainy day along with Michele Scarponi tho, so he did something at least. It was literally on the next day after of his best performance in the mountains putting huge pressure on Lance Armstrong on Alpe d' Huez in 2003 he crashed on that extremely hot day in the Alps, I think around 40 degrees. That really, really sucked, but if I remember correctly, the media was much more of Armstrong and his pretty amazing safe.

Of course it was less consequential but that save certainly elevated that crash to the most famous crash in cycling history.

In recent times, maybe. Ocaña's crash in 1971 had far more impact in the race than Beloki's, but there was no live TV back then.

 

[tobydawq]

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Yeah, Beloki was never the same or even close to the same. He went on to become a pretty mediocre domestique at Liberty Seguros and we never heard more from him after Operacíon Puerto which wasn't so good to the old ONCE-team. I think I remember him being in the break and helping Heras win the Vuelta that horrible and rainy day along with Michele Scarponi tho, so he did something at least. It was literally on the next day after of his best performance in the mountains putting huge pressure on Lance Armstrong on Alpe d' Huez in 2003 he crashed on that extremely hot day in the Alps, I think around 40 degrees. That really, really sucked, but if I remember correctly, the media was much more of Armstrong and his pretty amazing safe.

Of course it was less consequential but that save certainly elevated that crash to the most famous crash in cycling history.

In recent times, maybe. Ocaña's crash in 1971 had far more impact in the race than Beloki's, but there was no live TV back then.

That's true, but I'm thinking famous more like iconic than race-impacting.

 

[Rollthedice]

Horrible, wish him full recovery and even if he will never win another Tour there are more important things in life.

 

[Koronin]

Horrible crash. I hope he's able to recover it from. Never want to see anyone get hurt like this.

 

[Cookster15]

I am no fan of Chris Froome the bike racer but I wish him a speedy recovery and hope for no long term impacts. A horrible crash and aftermath.

 

[Scarponi]

Froome fans laughing at Contador when he crashed standing up in the 2014 Tour now understand *** happens in the most unexpected way. These riders have ridden 100 thousand jks and pulled the same stunts millions of times but it takes one second of mishap

 

[Cookster15]

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Froome fans laughing at Contador when he crashed standing up in the 2014 Tour now understand **** happens in the most unexpected way. These riders have ridden 100 thousand jks and pulled the same stunts millions of times but it takes one second of mishap

Which explains everything. Something we should all keep in mind no matter how skilled or experienced we become. Always leave a margin for error particularly when not racing since there is no excuse. The biggest risk is over confidence which can lead to momentary lapses in concentration, unexpected wind gusts, road debris or imperfections.

 

[The Barb]

If it is indeed a compound fracture of the femur then, at age 34, it's almost certainly a career-ender.

New Zealand's top jockey Lance O'Sullivan suffered a similar injury in 1997, also at age 34. He was out for 18 months but did eventually come back to resume winning premierships.

But cycling is different - obviously.

 

[bigcog]

If it is indeed a compound fracture of the femur then, at age 34, it's almost certainly a career-ender.

New Zealand's top jockey Lance O'Sullivan suffered a similar injury in 1997, also at age 34. He was out for 18 months but did eventually come back to resume winning premierships.

But cycling is different - obviously.

Is it 'official' that it is a compound fracture ? I haven't seen any mention of that officially. If so, as you say a comeback looks unlikely.

 

[spalco]

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Froome fans laughing at Contador when he crashed standing up in the 2014 Tour now understand **** happens in the most unexpected way. These riders have ridden 100 thousand jks and pulled the same stunts millions of times but it takes one second of mishap

Which explains everything. Something we should all keep in mind no matter how skilled or experienced we become. Always leave a margin for error particularly when not racing since there is no excuse. The biggest risk is over confidence which can lead to momentary lapses in concentration, unexpected wind gusts, road debris or imperfections.

A very good friend of mine got hurt terribly on his motorcycle a couple corners before returning home; apparently that's very common.

Riding a hightech carbon bicycle at speed is just as dangerous if not more so I suppose.

 

[The Barb]

If it is indeed a compound fracture of the femur then, at age 34, it's almost certainly a career-ender.

New Zealand's top jockey Lance O'Sullivan suffered a similar injury in 1997, also at age 34. He was out for 18 months but did eventually come back to resume winning premierships.

But cycling is different - obviously.

Is it 'official' that it is a compound fracture ? I haven't seen any mention of that officially. If so, as you say a comeback looks unlikely.

Definitely not official, just an unnamed witness being reported on a non-major news site.
https://livenewsnow.net/sport/injured-froome-tour-de-france-horror-crash-66220026

So yes, not wishing to jump to conclusions.

 

[Cookster15]

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Froome fans laughing at Contador when he crashed standing up in the 2014 Tour now understand **** happens in the most unexpected way. These riders have ridden 100 thousand jks and pulled the same stunts millions of times but it takes one second of mishap

Which explains everything. Something we should all keep in mind no matter how skilled or experienced we become. Always leave a margin for error particularly when not racing since there is no excuse. The biggest risk is over confidence which can lead to momentary lapses in concentration, unexpected wind gusts, road debris or imperfections.

A very good friend of mine got hurt terribly on his motorcycle a couple corners before returning home; apparently that's very common.

Riding a hightech carbon bicycle at speed is just as dangerous if not more so I suppose.

Yeh, its easy to forget the risks. A friend of mine suffered a shattered elbow in a fall when I was riding with him. That took him maybe 9 months to get back racing from. But he didn't have a broken femur and ribs to go along with it. At 34 its not looking good for Froome.

 

[rick james]

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Froome fans laughing at Contador when he crashed standing up in the 2014 Tour now understand **** happens in the most unexpected way. These riders have ridden 100 thousand jks and pulled the same stunts millions of times but it takes one second of mishap

I never seen any Froome fans laughing when Bertie crashed.... because Froome also left that race because of a crash

 

[markene2]

If it is indeed a compound fracture of the femur then, at age 34, it's almost certainly a career-ender.

New Zealand's top jockey Lance O'Sullivan suffered a similar injury in 1997, also at age 34. He was out for 18 months but did eventually come back to resume winning premierships.

But cycling is different - obviously.

Is it 'official' that it is a compound fracture ? I haven't seen any mention of that officially. If so, as you say a comeback looks unlikely.

Definitely not official, just an unnamed witness being reported on a non-major news site.
https://livenewsnow.net/sport/injured-froome-tour-de-france-horror-crash-66220026

So yes, not wishing to jump to conclusions.

They just stole the article from AFP so i would say it is as 'official' as you can get from news sites

https://www.afp.com/en/news/3955/seriously-injured-froome-out-tour-de-france-team-chief-doc-1hg2um7

 

[The Barb]

If it is indeed a compound fracture of the femur then, at age 34, it's almost certainly a career-ender.

New Zealand's top jockey Lance O'Sullivan suffered a similar injury in 1997, also at age 34. He was out for 18 months but did eventually come back to resume winning premierships.

But cycling is different - obviously.

Is it 'official' that it is a compound fracture ? I haven't seen any mention of that officially. If so, as you say a comeback looks unlikely.

Definitely not official, just an unnamed witness being reported on a non-major news site.
https://livenewsnow.net/sport/injured-froome-tour-de-france-horror-crash-66220026

So yes, not wishing to jump to conclusions.

They just stole the article from AFP so i would say it is as 'official' as you can get from news sites

https://www.afp.com/en/news/3955/seriously-injured-froome-out-tour-de-france-team-chief-doc-1hg2um7

Fair enough, although still just based on one unnamed witness saying it was an "open fracture". So no apparent fact checking or corroboration from anyone connected with the team, race or medical staff. Still too early to know.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Froome fans laughing at Contador when he crashed standing up in the 2014 Tour now understand **** happens in the most unexpected way. These riders have ridden 100 thousand jks and pulled the same stunts millions of times but it takes one second of mishap

I never seen any Froome fans laughing when Bertie crashed.... because Froome also left that race because of a crash

I saw several, but there will always be idiots

 

[Kwibus]

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Froome fans laughing at Contador when he crashed standing up in the 2014 Tour now understand **** happens in the most unexpected way. These riders have ridden 100 thousand jks and pulled the same stunts millions of times but it takes one second of mishap

I never seen any Froome fans laughing when Bertie crashed.... because Froome also left that race because of a crash

I saw several, but there will always be idiots

Yes, it happened, but indeed lets not go there now.

 

[Escarabajo]

Bad luck.
Wish him speedy recovery.

Last bad crash that I remember was Soler. That ended up in retirement and with some collateral damage.
Hope that he will be fine.

 

[Tonton]

My feelings as it relates to Froome are well documented, but regardless, from one rider to another, I wish him to recover soon. Falling sucks, losing square feet of skin hurt, breaking bones and taking showers with plastic bags over the cast is misery. I don't wish that to anyone. If some of his fans are idiots (no news there), other fans don't need to prove that they are more idiots than Froome's fans by rejoicing. Not accusing anyone here, just making a point.

 

[huge]

I wish Froome a full recovery.

 

[Robert5091]

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I wish Froome a full recovery.

Ditto here - though the fact he crashed badly descending did not surprise me as he's given me the willies everytime he's gone into full "Dawg Descending" mode. It's been akin to watching a kid with a box of matches.

See ya in 2020!

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Awful news. Hopefully he can come back as a top rider next season.