Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[MartinGT]

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Still, if he wasn't a cyclist with 67kg and 3 or 4 % bodyfat he wouldn't have ruptured all of these. If he got more muscle or more bodyfat his body would've been more protected. This sport is really weakening your body(I reffer mostly to riders like Froome, Wiggins in his GC days or even Dumoulin who are all tall, but extremely skinny).

He isnt even close to 4% body fat, he is lean but not that lean!

 

[brownbobby]

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The guy has fractured his femur(open fracture...that hurt as hell. I had a friend who had an open fracture on tibia and fibula at ski but femur is really something else. More, more painful), hip(someone said here that a hip injury ended Andy Schleck but not just him. Look at Andy Murray. After his hip problems he never was the same), elbow and ribs and someone on here said that the media amplifies it because it's Froome...

Given that the guy is a champ I'm sure he will try to cameback but it will be really hard for him. Also, lolz at the guys here who said that he should enjoy his season off and comeback next year...I assure you, the recovery from an injury like this is much more demanding than training. I had an ACL surgery and the first four months were incredibly taxing for the body. To go to physhiotherapy 6 times a week 2-3 hours a day were really hard, but imagine that footballers usually stay 8 hours in the first 6 months...So yeah, Froome will have the battle of his career.

Still, if he wasn't a cyclist with 67kg and 3 or 4 % bodyfat he wouldn't have ruptured all of these. If he got more muscle or more bodyfat his body would've been more protected. This sport is really weakening your body(I reffer mostly to riders like Froome, Wiggins in his GC days or even Dumoulin who are all tall, but extremely skinny).

Seriously??

Yeah i'm sure if he'd just ate a few more pies he'd have just got up from this 60kph sudden impact, dusted himself off and carried on

 

[brownbobby]

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Honest question - is this injury really as bad as some reactions suggest or is there some Froome-drama element added? I mean, cyclists break something almost on a regular basis. I can't understand how but they almost always recover from any broken bones and other traumas very quickly and compete again earlier than you would expect. Why majority seems to expect it will be different this time?

Difference is with a lot of the broken bones we see with cyclists, after only a very short period they're able to spend hours on the turbo at least maintaining some kind of fitness....Froome won't be even be able to stand up, let alone walk or think about any kind of time on a bike for a significant period of time.

If/when he does start riding again, he'll have lost massive amounts of the fitness he's spent years building...at his age that's a big problem...

 

[Lequack]

People forget how fast these guys are going and how badly hurt you can get quickly on a bike. Mostly because we see so many falls in the peloton and most of the time they will dust themselves off and continue. We forget how vulnerable they really are. mean Nibali last year fell uphill and still broke his back. Hopefully Froome manages to come back from this, if only to not go out with an accident.

 

[pink_jersey]

Didn't Majka said some years ago that he had 4% bodyfat during TdF? I expect Froome and others for some weeks to be the same.

I stand by the fact that you are controlling and have more stability on the bike when you are a little more bulkier(Sagan types). Also, I feel that whenever a GC riders falls he's always breaking something.

 

[Lequack]

Another injury update (French):
https://www.ledauphine.com/sport/2019/06/13/dave-brailsford-chris-froome-est-toujours-inconscient


Google translated:
Dave Brailsford: "Chris Froome is still unconscious"

Always marked by the heavy fall of his leader, the manager of Team Ineos gave news of Chris Froome, this Wednesday morning at the start of the fifth stage of the Critérium du Dauphiné. The Brit, still unconscious, was operated on his many fractures last night in Saint-Etienne.

Dave, what's the latest news about Christopher Froome?

"He is at the Saint-Etienne hospital and had an operation during the night for eight hours. He is in intensive care for two or three days. Then we'll see when we can bring him home. "

What fractures did it take to operate?

"The femur, the elbow, the ribs and the hip. There was a lot of work to do ... It was a pretty important operation. The staff at Saint-Etienne was great. They decided to do all the operations in the same amount of time rather than little by little. The wound was so bad that it had to be done as quickly as possible. In this situation, the longer one waits, the greater the risk of aggravating the injury. "

Have you been able to interact with him?

"No ... he's still unconscious. "

In what state is your team?

"We see falls every day. We are used to seeing this but even after years in the sport, it's hard to see bad falls like Chris's. We immediately knew that it was a serious accident. Wout (Poels) was next to him. He fell next to an ambulance and thankfully. It was a very difficult situation to manage if there were no doctors there. "

Are you worried that this is the end of his career?

"I do not think about it ... It's not worth it to project. The important thing for me is to stay focused on the race, for the staff and for the runners. Mentally, it's traumatic for a lot of people in the team. We just spent three weeks together in Tenerife, the team is very close. It's important to manage all that with emotion. We are here to continue ... The race continues. If Chris could talk and participate in the briefing, I'm sure he would have said to everyone, "You have to run and do not lower your head! We will try to do it. "

 

[brownbobby]

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Didn't Majka said some years ago that he had 4% bodyfat during TdF? I expect Froome and others for some weeks to be the same.

I stand by the fact that you are controlling and have more stability on the bike when you are a little more bulkier(Sagan types). Also, I feel that whenever a GC riders falls he's always breaking something.

Ah, well yes that's slightly different to what you said originally....it's certainly true that carrying a bit more weight makes you a bit more stable, especially on a TT bike with disc wheel in gusty conditions. I can vouch for that

 

[brownbobby]

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Another injury update (French):
https://www.ledauphine.com/sport/2019/06/13/dave-brailsford-chris-froome-est-toujours-inconscient


Google translated:
Dave Brailsford: "Chris Froome is still unconscious"

Always marked by the heavy fall of his leader, the manager of Team Ineos gave news of Chris Froome, this Wednesday morning at the start of the fifth stage of the Critérium du Dauphiné. The Brit, still unconscious, was operated on his many fractures last night in Saint-Etienne.

Dave, what's the latest news about Christopher Froome?

"He is at the Saint-Etienne hospital and had an operation during the night for eight hours. He is in intensive care for two or three days. Then we'll see when we can bring him home. "

What fractures did it take to operate?

"The femur, the elbow, the ribs and the hip. There was a lot of work to do ... It was a pretty important operation. The staff at Saint-Etienne was great. They decided to do all the operations in the same amount of time rather than little by little. The wound was so bad that it had to be done as quickly as possible. In this situation, the longer one waits, the greater the risk of aggravating the injury. "

Have you been able to interact with him?

"No ... he's still unconscious. "

In what state is your team?

"We see falls every day. We are used to seeing this but even after years in the sport, it's hard to see bad falls like Chris's. We immediately knew that it was a serious accident. Wout (Poels) was next to him. He fell next to an ambulance and thankfully. It was a very difficult situation to manage if there were no doctors there. "

Are you worried that this is the end of his career?

"I do not think about it ... It's not worth it to project. The important thing for me is to stay focused on the race, for the staff and for the runners. Mentally, it's traumatic for a lot of people in the team. We just spent three weeks together in Tenerife, the team is very close. It's important to manage all that with emotion. We are here to continue ... The race continues. If Chris could talk and participate in the briefing, I'm sure he would have said to everyone, "You have to run and do not lower your head! We will try to do it. "

Oh Jesus, the way he talks about the wound doesn't sound good at all....open fracture of the femur of that nature is about as bad as it gets...

 

[yaco]

I suspect the hip may be the biggest issue - It could take eight to 10 months to get up to speed for Froome to race again and that's if everything goes well.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

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Didn't Majka said some years ago that he had 4% bodyfat during TdF? I expect Froome and others for some weeks to be the same.

Pro Bodybuilders go on stage with 3-4% bodyfat. They are half dead after competition, because it's incredible hard to perform at these levels. So I am not sure about those numbers. Maybe a GC contender leaves TdF at these numbers, but it's not possible to perform at this level for 3 weeks.

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah it's probably more like 6/7% if not higher.

Also, the argument doesn't hold by any stretch of the imagination because if inertia.

 

[hrotha]

Is it true that he spent like two hours on the crash site before being moved to a hospital? I wouldn't be surprised if we learn later that his injuries were immediately life-threatening.

 

[MartinGT]

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Is it true that he spent like two hours on the crash site before being moved to a hospital? I wouldn't be surprised if we learn later that his injuries were immediately life-threatening.

Sounds like it and given the reaction from Dave I would say so too :sad:

 

[Steoroc]

Speaking from experience, a broken femur is potentially life threatening before ever taking into account the other injuries. Some years ago a member of my fathers family died from complications the day after breaking his femur.
Someone else previously mentioned soft tissue damage... Seriously? An impact at that speed is about the same as falling 12m, or from the roof of a 3 storey house.
I'm currently recovering from a crash at the start of May. Touched wheels on a descent I've done 20 times. Bounced off the road at 40kmh, broke 2 ribs, collapsed a lung, hairline fracture of the elbow and a grade 3 AC joint disruption. 5 days in hospital with the first night in high dependency, had a chest drain put in (much more painful than the crash!!) . Luckily my helmet kept my head in one piece. I'll be off work for at least another month. I got broke up, but in comparison to Froome it was almost superficial.
It wouldn't surprise me if he has bruising to kidneys, liver, possibly collapsed lungs... The poor guy is wrecked. On a human level I really feel so bad for him and his family right now.
I knew that road, wasn't being reckless and in a split second I was waiting for the ambulance. We all tend to forget just how easy it is to get it wrong. Having said that, you can't go out terrified you're going to come off.
Hopefully Chris gets through this and has no serious impact on his quality of life afterwards, let the racing come in time if possible.

 

[spalco]

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People forget how fast these guys are going and how badly hurt you can get quickly on a bike. Mostly because we see so many falls in the peloton and most of the time they will dust themselves off and continue. We forget how vulnerable they really are. mean Nibali last year fell uphill and still broke his back. Hopefully Froome manages to come back from this, if only to not go out with an accident.

Those guys are also a lot harder than any of us.

No "normal" person would voluntarily sit on a bike the day after ripping off half the skin on their upper body in a crash.

 

[dacooley]

once something like this happens, it turns completely unimportant what kind of emotions a winning froome used to give to us. heal well chris and do everything what it takes to recover. as someone rightly noted above, there is a family, that's much more valuable than bike racing.

 

[JosephK]

So maybe he'll be a bit undercooked coming into the Vuelta -- still one of the favorites there, I imagine.

. . . Too soon? I will blame my north European heritage for a tendency toward bleak humor. In all seriousness, I hope Chris can fully recover sooner than hoped from his very serious injuries and enjoy many happy years to come with his family and, if possible, a comeback on the bike if he chooses.

 

[Climbing]

Jesus Christ, I completely missed the news about the very serious crash and surgery!
I hope he can fully recover, we'll think about racing when the time comes again!

 

[F_Cance]

How could you miss it? CN alone has +10 articles covering it for now

 

[Climbing]

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How could you miss it? CN alone has +10 articles covering it for now

I was on vacation and didn't follow cycling for some days
As far as I understand it looks like almost life threatening, nevermind cycling, let's just hope he gets trough it!

 

[MatParker117]

54Kph to 0 apparently, needless to say that is not good.

 

[Rollthedice]

"Suddenly, on a straight stretch, he crashed. He went straight to a wall at 60 per hour. We immediately saw that it was quite serious," Knaven says from the Criterium du Dauphiné.

 

[Yingge]

So maybe he'll be a bit undercooked coming into the Vuelta -- still one of the favorites there, I imagine.

. . . Too soon? I will blame my north European heritage for a tendency toward bleak humor. In all seriousness, I hope Chris can fully recover sooner than hoped from his very serious injuries and enjoy many happy years to come with his family and, if possible, a comeback on the bike if he chooses.

I doubt that he will be going to the Vuelta, and probably not anywhere else for the rest of the year.

 

[JosephK]

So maybe he'll be a bit undercooked coming into the Vuelta -- still one of the favorites there, I imagine.

. . . Too soon? I will blame my north European heritage for a tendency toward bleak humor. In all seriousness, I hope Chris can fully recover sooner than hoped from his very serious injuries and enjoy many happy years to come with his family and, if possible, a comeback on the bike if he chooses.

I doubt that he will be going to the Vuelta, and probably not anywhere else for the rest of the year.

Yes, you caught me there. -- Bad joke, or attempted joke, on my part (poking the situation, not the person). I would be surprised if Chris is even able to race next year, 2020. These types of injuries can be career-ending. Hope that's not the case for Froome.

 

[Lequack]

Some more updates (French):
http://www.activradio.com/chris-froome-va-rester-hospitalise-a-saint-etienne-une-petite-semaine/

Google translated:
Professor Rémi Philippot who operated on Christopher Froome Wednesday, believes that the champion was very lucky . The four-time winner of the Tour de France, package, is expected to join a high-level sports re-education center sometime next week.

Intensive care for 48 hours
The cyclist fell heavily during the time trial recognition, 4th stage of the Critérium du Dauphiné which took place in the Loire. Taken in charge by the roannaises emergencies on the spot, the British was helicopter transported with the CHU of Saint-Etienne. "There is what is called a polytraumatized , explains Professor Rémi Philippot, " he was driving at high speed and hit a wall, it is a serious injury " . Chris Froome fractured the femur, elbow, hip and several ribs . He is in intensive care for at least 48 hours to monitor the possible occurrence of secondary lesions:"The evolution is favorable, he is fully aware of the situation. His only goal this morning was to know the details of his rehabilitation to get back on a bike as soon as possible. "

"He has not lost his mind"
Pr Philippot, a surgeon in the orthopedic traumatology department, adds: "It is typical of top athletes, this desire to erase the traumatic event to project on a re-athlete and a return to competition. They are born competitors who have a capacity for abstraction of the impressive traumatic phenomenon. " The hardest thing is to slow down: " they tend not to listen to their bodies enough. You have to go step by step. Chris Froome will have to work over the next 6 months to regain his muscular abilities . According to the surgeon, Chris Froome is extremely fortunate since he has not suffered a head injury and suffers no neurological lesions. According to the newspaper L'Equipe, his wife Michelle joined him in Saint-Etienne.