Read the CN article and had to come here and read
The Cycling News forum is looking to add some volunteer moderators with Red Rick's recent retirement. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to
In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.
Thanks!
he won't . he's done. he'll just milk whatever is left in his contract with zero results and *** PR stunts...And to suspend disbelief when he find thermonuclear legs once again. Honestly, if he suddenly find race winning form again it is pure clinic territory.
Same here. Instantly realized we were heading for popcorn meme territory when I read the articleRead the CN article and had to come here and read
Except that discovering and treating the bilhalzia a decade ago was given as one of the main reasons the team and Froome forwarded to explain his sudden transformation into an elite GC competitor back in 2011.I have to admit this issue is quite strange. I am not very update of this, but I see he said first he just had gut issues and his Boss said he had bilharzia....with no more details?? I think is ios not true. He was affected by a hard crash, he was working for the team, he had maybe some gut issues that didnt allow to be stronger at the end of the Tour,,,and finally he was quite strong at the end of the season..although is not supported by result...except maybe that 23th at Tour of Slovakia...
But anyway. bilhalzia medicin is not an advantahe for sport, byt the contrary, a big problem, as the illness itself...and there is no TUEs in relation..so any clinic issue with bilharzia has no sense.
That is not true. Froome showed in his forst Tour he had the potential to be a Tour contender. He was really strong with those circumstances. He was 14 th at Vuelta a Castilla y Leon...with more experience he won la Vuelta later that year.. it could have been possible without Bilharzia, but with Bilharzia treatment has more sense as the illness afect blood cells.Except that discovering and treating the bilhalzia a decade ago was given as one of the main reasons the team and Froome forwarded to explain his sudden transformation into an elite GC competitor back in 2011.
Really, a whole decade later we're still spinning the same story about him having two reasonable days at the 2008 Tour? And a small stage race where he finished only one place above a 21-year-old Nairo Quintana riding for a Colombian Continental team, and was beaten in the ITT by Igor Antón?That is not true. Froome showed in his forst Tour he had the potential to be a Tour contender. He was really strong with those circumstances. He was 14 th at Vuelta a Castilla y Leon...with more experience he won la Vuelta later that year.. it could have been possible without Bilharzia, but with Bilharzia treatment has more sense as the illness afect blood cells.
Totally. 14th in the Vuelta a Castilla y Leon is usually the predictor of winning 4 Tours. Makes sense.That is not true. Froome showed in his forst Tour he had the potential to be a Tour contender. He was really strong with those circumstances. He was 14 th at Vuelta a Castilla y Leon...with more experience he won la Vuelta later that year.. it could have been possible without Bilharzia, but with Bilharzia treatment has more sense as the illness afect blood cells.
He said that he had done a large amount of work in yesterday's stage to Brescia for Greg Henderson.
"He was trying to get up to the soigneur at the top of the Mortirolo. He knew the Giro was over for him," Yates told Cycling Weekly.
"Though, we would never encourage our riders to hold onto a motorbike."
Froome helped Henderson by pulling in the first part of the stage yesterday to Brescia. He finished the day 104th in the overall classification.
He shopwed more level in Barloworl that in that Vuelta a Castilla y Leon with SKY. But anyway, I was in Valladolid and I saw Froome, I took him a picture and I though, What a pity, a promising rider, but from that Tour coming from Africa and with the best in the important stages, no good result... (I didnt know this a few months ago)'He was 14th at Vuelta castilla y Leon... With more experience he won the vuelta later that year'
Ahahahahahahajjaa this is the best most funny sentence I ever read in here. @Taxus4a love you my friend, you are so funny. We disagree about frrome but you are dedicated to follow him which I respect. You are a good guy.
1. | | WIGGINS Bradley | SKY | 1h04'55" | 50 | |||||||
2. | | FROOME Chris | SKY | 01'22" | 30 | |||||||
3. | | THOMAS Geraint | SKY | 01'35" | 25 |
1. | | MONCOUTIE David | COF | 4h36'00" | 20 | |||||||
2. | | SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio | BAR | 07" | 10 | |||||||
3. | | FROOME Chris | BAR | 13" | 5 |
You've been promoting that blog post for eight years now. You aren't going to change any minds at this point. Not when most of the points people disagree with had been raised eight years ago, many of the points are subjective, those that aren't have largely been debunked, and you haven't come up with any new arguments since otherwise you wouldn't be pointing people back to the same article all these years later.He shopwed more level in Barloworl that in that Vuelta a Castilla y Leon with SKY. But anyway, I was in Valladolid and I saw Froome, I took him a picture and I though, What a pity, a promising rider, but from that Tour coming from Africa and with the best in the important stages, no good result... (I didnt know this a few months ago)
1. WIGGINS Bradley SKY 1h04'55" 50 2. FROOME Chris SKY 01'22" 30 3. THOMAS Geraint SKY 01'35" 25
Nor this 2 years before in Mont Faron
1. MONCOUTIE David COF 4h36'00" 20 2. SOLER HERNANDEZ Juan Mauricio BAR 07" 10 3. FROOME Chris BAR 13" 5
He won Giro del Capo II just before this, but I expected more from him those years.
And I remember how 3 days later my picture. he finished 14 in Castilla y Leon, and I though, maybe he has to show his best still. If he did that race wuith Bilharzia. It is better than to win le Tour.
You can read to me about all of this here: https://patrimoniociclista.blogspot.com/2013/06/an-unpolished-diamond-story-of-chris.html
and in spanish: https://patrimoniociclista.blogspot.com/2013/03/an-unpolished-diamond-la-historia-de.html
I am not promoting anything. I just wrote that becouse the answer of how was Froome development is long, and I am not going to put it in a post everytime someone said he came from nothing or things like that...If you read itm you will have the answer... He did a better first Tour than Contador, So, I doint know how you can say he wanst promising. Froome was almost without team workung and with the selected group at the begining of alp dhuez, just a mistake with fiood maje him to be out od the top 15 that day. And He was top 15 in the last ITT. contador didnt show that level in his first Tour, with more experience and with very diferent circunstances, becouse Froome wanst to race that Tour and he was new in Europe. He was just regular as he didnt work. But I am not going to writte that post again...You've been promoting that blog post for eight years now. You aren't going to change any minds at this point. Not when most of the points people disagree with had been raised eight years ago, many of the points are subjective, those that aren't have largely been debunked, and you haven't come up with any new arguments since otherwise you wouldn't be pointing people back to the same article all these years later.
And you're still trying to paint it like Barloworld was some wild west cycling backwater and the baseline of talent we should judge him against is a cycling equivalent of, like, Adrián Solano. In reality, Barloworld was a ProContinental team which ranked 21st in the world (top non-ProTour team) the year before he signed, 17th (again top non-ProTour team) the first year he spent with them, and there was a higher level and more extensive pro scene in South Africa then than there is today.
Do you think this is a Thirtd rate sprinters? sure??Totally. 14th in the Vuelta a Castilla y Leon is usually the predictor of winning 4 Tours. Makes sense.
Also this is pure gold: https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/giro-ditalia/froome-disqualified-from-giro-ditalia-60517 DQ'd for holding onto a motorbike up the Motirola, the year before the breakout Vuelta. The best part of that article is:
Greg Henderson. The sprinter. Whose career highlights include, according to Wikipedia, "winning the points competition at the Tour of Georgia in 2005 and 2008" I mean, you really can't have a better predictor of GT success than working for a third-rate sprinter, can you? The team really believed in his talent, right? I guess Sky's incredible attention to detail and marginal gains somehow missed one of their riders being affected with an easily curable tropical disease. Makes sense.
Comedy. Just amazing that anyone ever swallowed that drivel.
OMG, he took second in a sprint one time! Don't stop believing my friend. Froome figured out all of pro cycling in 18 months. The Badzilla impacts yer brains and yer blood cells!Do you think this is a Thirtd rate sprinters? sure??
https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=19858
And he was 23th in one fo the Queen stage of that Giro, in a griup full of big names. If you know anout cycling, you would ralized in that kind of thinks of a man how was working, more than the fact he had to left the Giro becouse he hold a motorbike (becouse you dont knpw why)
Anyway he was at that Giro to work, and he crashed that Giro. He had still lot to knew about pro cycling.
Contador finished 31st in his first Tour, Froome finished 83rd in his.I am not promoting anything. I just wrote that becouse the answer of how was Froome development is long, and I am not going to put it in a post everytime someone said he came from nothing or things like that...If you read itm you will have the answer... He did a better first Tour than Contador, So, I doint know how you can say he wanst promising. Froome was almost without team workung and with the selected group at the begining of alp dhuez, just a mistake with fiood maje him to be out od the top 15 that day. And He was top 15 in the last ITT. contador didnt show that level in his first Tour, with more experience and with very diferent circunstances, becouse Froome wanst to race that Tour and he was new in Europe. He was just regular as he didnt work. But I am not going to writte that post again...
Piggy backing off what Libertine Seguros said, Contador finished 31st supporting Heras and Beloki at first. Froome finished 84th without a leader to support. He could literally do whatever he wanted. In a race which famed climber Erik Zabel and Filippo Pozzato finished 43rd and 67th. On top of Contador returning to racing after actually suffering from a condition, congenital vascular disorder.I am not promoting anything. I just wrote that becouse the answer of how was Froome development is long, and I am not going to put it in a post everytime someone said he came from nothing or things like that...If you read itm you will have the answer... He did a better first Tour than Contador, So, I doint know how you can say he wanst promising. Froome was almost without team workung and with the selected group at the begining of alp dhuez, just a mistake with fiood maje him to be out od the top 15 that day. And He was top 15 in the last ITT. contador didnt show that level in his first Tour, with more experience and with very diferent circunstances, becouse Froome wanst to race that Tour and he was new in Europe. He was just regular as he didnt work. But I am not going to writte that post again...
Revisionist history works best with continued revisioningReally, a whole decade later we're still spinning the same story about him having two reasonable days at the 2008 Tour? And a small stage race where he finished only one place above a 21-year-old Nairo Quintana riding for a Colombian Continental team, and was beaten in the ITT by Igor Antón?
Shoe in!This year 14th at Vuelta Castilla y Leon was Gonzalo Serrano, will he won a GT in 2022?
If youare top 15 in Castilla y Leon with Bilharzzia, Your are goiung to win for sure lot of Gran Tours without it.
I have to admit this issue is quite strange. I am not very update of this, but I see he said first he just had gut issues and his Boss said he had bilharzia....with no more details?? I think is ios not true. He was affected by a hard crash, he was working for the team, he had maybe some gut issues that didnt allow to be stronger at the end of the Tour,,,and finally he was quite strong at the end of the season..although is not supported by result...except maybe that 23th at Tour of Slovakia...
Just as third rate.Do you think this is a Thirtd rate sprinters? sure??
https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=19858