DirtyWorks said:
I'm not so sure about that. Why would RadioShack and Astana, AC's team at the time, average as the dirtiest teams? I think this was a top secret list drawn up by non-political people.
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I'm not so sure about that. Why would RadioShack and Astana, AC's team at the time, average as the dirtiest teams? I think this was a top secret list drawn up by non-political people.
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SuperHuman said:
Ok, lets see how Chris kicked *** BEFORE the 2010 TdF.
Kicked *** with a pristine blood profile of 0.0000000000000:
1st Overall Vuelta al País Vasco
1st Stage 6 ITT
2nd Overall Giro di Sardegna
4th Overall Tour of California
7th La Flèche Wallonne
8th Liège–Bastogne–Liège
10th Amstel Gold Race
BTW, Chris did not train in seclusion during May2010 due to "allergies" sniff sniff.
Polish said:
It's a good point. My only caveat is we don't know how much he was tested during that period.
SuperHuman said:
The list highlights the problem with averages. It doesn't sufficiently describe the extremes in the list. This is especially true in the tiny population given.
Thought this thred was dying when i commented earlier but now the "new name offered " is more appropriate to the recent comments!
Fact is that the morning that Chris made the TDS Podium i was on the Pullman chatting to him and asked him say "Aider Handisport" when he reached the podium that night ! Of course he forgot , in fact his french was horrible !
Talent with a big smile a yard wide describes this popular athlete and those with their Axe to grind are the losers as he "COULD CARE LESS" about your thoughts !
Wonder how many of you use a separate IP address for your posts that in the light of day are worthless ?
Fact is that the morning that Chris made the TDS Podium i was on the Pullman chatting to him and asked him say "Aider Handisport" when he reached the podium that night ! Of course he forgot , in fact his french was horrible !
Talent with a big smile a yard wide describes this popular athlete and those with their Axe to grind are the losers as he "COULD CARE LESS" about your thoughts !
Wonder how many of you use a separate IP address for your posts that in the light of day are worthless ?
Rubén Plaza rated as a 1 in the list. Anybody care to contend that he's a little white angel like Chris?
Just read that obscure item on Lance in that "prestigious blog" ! Can now see how little it takes to crank up the " exercise machine" you guy use to denigrate Horny and other achievers . What with the jumping to conclusions ,etc the only other exercise you need is to flex your fingers .
Beetlejuice?
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!
There, is everything back to normal again?
Dave.
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!
There, is everything back to normal again?
Dave.
Monsieur Lim
Always something new with Lim. What a smart guy! What was his talking points when he helped Landis?
Always something new with Lim. What a smart guy! What was his talking points when he helped Landis?
Horny is just so lean.
Looks like he has been mainlining meth in Fresno all off season
share the needle, pipe, or bung you hog Horner
Looks like he has been mainlining meth in Fresno all off season
share the needle, pipe, or bung you hog Horner
Breaking News, Hamilton/Landis have indicated that they provided Horner with PEDs...also discussed using testosterone.
Oh wait, just a bunch of dopers/liars with psychological issues making up crap to sell books...
Disregard...false report...move on...nothing to see here.
Oh wait, just a bunch of dopers/liars with psychological issues making up crap to sell books...
Disregard...false report...move on...nothing to see here.
zigmeister said:
Shut up! Landis and Hamilton both speak excellent english and are good nice guys I dont believe that they would dope. Their words have just been taken out of contect by some french jornalists who are content on destroying the American domination of cycling.
I still believe!
This is just disgusting
According to the VeloNews web report on the Mt. Baldy stage of the ToC, Horner and Leipheimer (both riding for Radio Shack) crossed the finish line 1-2 after riding away from the top climbers in the field. "Some three and a half hours later, at an elevation of 6,444 feet, Leipheimer was just as relaxed and barely out of breath after winning the stage after he and Horner held their hands aloft in victory."
This is just stupid.
How can you ride away from the best climbers on a long hors categorie climb and then cross the finish line "barely out of breath"?
EPO or blood bags.
Horner and Leipheimer are disgusting dopers. They learned too well from Lance. It's also disgusting that the UCI forbade the from USADA conducting any doping test at the ToC.
Something's got to change. I hope Horner and Leipheimer are implicated in either the upcoming 60 Minutes report, the GJ investigation or both. They sicken me.
According to the VeloNews web report on the Mt. Baldy stage of the ToC, Horner and Leipheimer (both riding for Radio Shack) crossed the finish line 1-2 after riding away from the top climbers in the field. "Some three and a half hours later, at an elevation of 6,444 feet, Leipheimer was just as relaxed and barely out of breath after winning the stage after he and Horner held their hands aloft in victory."
This is just stupid.
How can you ride away from the best climbers on a long hors categorie climb and then cross the finish line "barely out of breath"?
EPO or blood bags.
Horner and Leipheimer are disgusting dopers. They learned too well from Lance. It's also disgusting that the UCI forbade the from USADA conducting any doping test at the ToC.
Something's got to change. I hope Horner and Leipheimer are implicated in either the upcoming 60 Minutes report, the GJ investigation or both. They sicken me.
Apart from the clinical angle I also suspect lousy reporting as the 'barely out of breath' line could have been added to emphasize the dominance over those euro weenies regardless of how tired the bottle actually was.
BroDeal said:
Wha?
Did he have a sudden growth spurt? Someone spot him moving up to a 54cm frame?
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