Teams & Riders Cian Uijtdebroeks - From the wetlands to the top of cycling

[rallybanana]

eh?

Sorry. I was referring to the tweet by Benji Naesen, not the one you posted.

 

[pastronef]

Sorry. I was referring to the tweet by Benji Naesen, not the one you posted.

yes yes, I was asking what did you mean about the arrow

 

[pastronef]

how many Giro stages will it take Cian to throw a tantrum cause Kooj and Wout are wasting energies in the sprints?

 

[CyclistAbi]

So if UCI will register Cian for Bora, 2024 season. Visma will still bring Cian to the Giro?

 

[scribers]

No

 

[Berniece]

how many Giro stages will it take Cian to throw a tantrum cause Kooj and Wout are wasting energies in the sprints?

When has he done that at Bora?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Just read some news in local media, about a young football player, one sided contract termination, two years back, going from Olimpija to Köln. Köln ignored all demands. FIFA backed Olimpija and both Köln and football player were fined and FIFA awarded 50k compensation to Olimpija. Olimpija wanted more and the case went to CAS. It looks like CAS sided with Olimpija. Compensation did stay the same but Köln is now facing a temporary ban for new registrations of players and likely the footballer will be suspended for a couple of month too. So this is how football is currently doing it. Lets see on how cycling does it.

 

[pastronef]

When has he done that at Bora?

I was half joking don't worry. he never did that at Bora, he complained in other ways.
I am sorry, I'm not a Jumbo fan, I'm biased against them.
I was a Cian fan until the news came out

 

[Tim Cahill]

The only party coming out of this with an enhanced reputation is DSM.

 

[joseph89]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1737881413603471709

View: https://twitter.com/dnlbenson/status/1737881413603471709?t=pTEliJ22cQZuuhkaV0YL4Q&s=19

 

[CyclistAbi]

Great. If only they could have done it like that in the first place. But OK. Now let's get ready to rumble!

 

[Netserk]

I'm curious if Bora stood firm on the market price (which two other teams were willing to pay) or if they gave a discount to get it all over with and avoid lawsuits.

 

[Berniece]

I'm curious if Bora stood firm on the market price (which two other teams were willing to pay) or if they gave a discount to get it all over with and avoid lawsuits.

Probably depends on how serious their case was. Their lawyers probably made an estimated guess on what the odds were for success. It’ll be somewhere between 100K-1M

 

[joseph89]

More information and comment by denk.

Compensation agreed between Cian Uijtdebroeks, Bora-Hansgrohe and Jumbo-Visma

Agreement has been made with settlement paid to German team after Uijtdebroeks terminated his contract

www.globalcyclingnetwork.com

 

[rallybanana]

yes yes, I was asking what did you mean about the arrow

It doesn't matter now. The breaking news about Cian confirmed to Visma renders my post garbage, not that it wasn't before.

 

[joseph89]

I'm curious if Bora stood firm on the market price (which two other teams were willing to pay) or if they gave a discount to get it all over with and avoid lawsuits.

"BORA has made a good choice. Abandoned the million euro compensation. Better a (lower) amount than going to court."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1737892632385278400

View: https://twitter.com/thijszonneveld/status/1737892632385278400?t=aNlH2VNXKNihwIXeDcrOig&s=19

 

[Rackham]

The totally independent, non-biased & fair Dutch journalist Thijs Zonnerveld coming in hard with the pro-Visma spin. Shocking.

In any case it's good that this is over (& I suspect all 3 parties wanted it sorted ASAP so not to pollute the new season). Bora can take the fight to Visma on the road, as it should be.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Probably depends on how serious their case was. Their lawyers probably made an estimated guess on what the odds were for success. It’ll be somewhere between 100K-1M

No. It doesn't look like it came down to lawyers, or better agents. As lawyers would get involved latter. So all in all it didn't come down to the people that made this mess.

"Today is a day of mixed feelings. I was surprised to be approached on short notice with the desire to reach an agreement," Denk said. "But it's well known that I'm open to talks and that I won't stand in the way of a transfer if the conditions are right and if it's done according to the rules. That was the case three weeks ago, and it was the same today.

"I am pleased that the dust has finally settled and that the case is now closed. The agreement shows that it's never too late for a reasonable, personal discussion. I would like this case to remain an isolated incident for the entire cycling family: Let's respect contracts and rules, let's be fair with each other."

Denk clarified that Uijtdebroeks did not accuse his now-former teammates of bullying.

"Above all, I stand behind my team. When false accusations are made against our riders, a line is crossed. To be clear: these accusations did not come from Cian. They were never voiced to us by Cian as a reason to change teams," Denk said.

Bora-Hansgrohe reach contract termination agreement with Uijtdebroeks

Denk hopes case is 'isolated incident' and teams will respect contracts

www.cyclingnews.com

It came down to real people, like Denk, and i assume Cian, discussion, respect, agreement and a hand shake. That is what solved this mess.

 

[CyclistAbi]

So i guess now a bit of Roglstomp is in order? Only fair.

 

[Berniece]

No. It doesn't look like it came down to lawyers, or better agents. As lawyers would get involved latter. So all in all it didn't come down to the people that made this mess.

Bora-Hansgrohe reach contract termination agreement with Uijtdebroeks

Denk hopes case is 'isolated incident' and teams will respect contracts

www.cyclingnews.com

It came down to real people, like Denk, and i assume Cian, discussion, respect, agreement and a hand shake. That is what solved this mess.

They definitely first let the lawyers check how their case was. Which is why they dropped it. You don't just wait 2 weeks, without letting lawyers check this, 3 weeks before the start of the season...

 

[CyclistAbi]

They definitely first let the lawyers check how their case was. Which is why they dropped it. You don't just wait 2 weeks, without letting lawyers check this, 3 weeks before the start of the season...

Nah. Considering how detailed the whole procedure was, legally, those people, initiating it, they had not much to do with reaching the agreement. On top of that in now turned out Cian never accused Bora of bullying. So the assholes that did that. Somebody has pull a plug on them (i am not talking about the journalist).

 

[scribers]

I am grateful so that Abi can move on from this topic.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I am grateful so that Abi can move on from this topic.

Life has meaning again.

 

[Berniece]

Nah. Considering how detailed the whole procedure was, legally, those people, initiating it, they had not much to do with reaching the agreement. On top of that in now turned out Cian never accused Bora of bullying. So the assholes that did that. Somebody has pull a plug on them (i am not talking about the journalist).

Weird take. In my opinion Bora found out it would take too much time and money to fight this in court. No one would benefit from that. So they asked for less money than 1M, but more than 100K. This whole "we talked it out like adults" is going to be bs.

 

[hrotha]

In my opinion Bora found out it would take too much time and money to fight this in court. No one would benefit from that. So they asked for less money than 1M, but more than 100K.

Which is why it's bad that a team can do what Visma did and why I hope they have a shitty season next year