Teams & Riders Cian Uijtdebroeks - From the wetlands to the top of cycling

[Berniece]

The team that let Primoz Roglic go when he wanted to leave would force Uijtdebroeks to stay against his wishes?

I'm saying that if Visma actually thought Uijtdebroeks had a GT podium performance in him. They would give in to his demands of letting him go for GC's in a GT. Visma doesn't believe in him, so have no problem with letting him go.

 

[Red Rick]

I'm saying that if Visma actually thought Uijtdebroeks had a GT podium performance in him. They would give in to his demands of letting him go for GC's in a GT. Visma doesn't believe in him, so have no problem with letting him go.

Where is it explicitly stated that they don't believe that? It's not stated at all he wouldn't be able to get a free role at a GT at all. In fact, they invested heavily into Uijtdebroeks for the past 2 seasons.

All we have to go off is diverging ambitions, which really implies only that Movistar are willing to give Uijtdebroeks more than Visma think he's worth.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Does he want to "go for" GC or does he want to win GC? I would think sticking with the team with a proven track record of winning and putting in the work to maybe actually get to that level is more ambitious than going off to a clown show like Movistar. Unless you don't truly believe you are capable of reaching that level in which case be that big fish!

He doesn't come from a cycling background, and i fear he or his parents are a bit too oblivious to how cycling careers unfold. He is being managed by a football manager, and his "transfers" are very football-esque in a way. In football you see young players move to teams sometimes for half a season, put a step back to get more opportunities, put themselves in the spotlights there and force a transfer to a bigger team, sometimes even the same team you left two years ago. Him being at Bora since his junior years, then forcing a break towards Visma before being considered A-team, then suffering with injuries and leaving before the contract is up again, to a lesser team, again before showing his full potential... it seems very random unless you start looking at it from a football perspective.

Dries Mertens was written off by farcical Belgian teams like Ghent and Anderlecht for not being good enough, and he ended up playing for Napoli. De Bruyne was deemed not good enough by Mourinho-The-Blind at Chelsea, he was shipped off to Bremen where he was hijacked by City where he dominated Chelsea for the next decade. Stuff like that is quite common in football. I get the feeling he/they think that's how cycling works as well. But it doesn't.

 

[Berniece]

All we have to go off is diverging ambitions, which really implies only that Movistar are willing to give Uijtdebroeks more than Visma think he's worth.

Huh? That's not how I read it at all, or most people in this topic. It's not a money thing. His manager said:

We met with Visma management a few weeks ago. Cian hinted that he wants to play a more important role in Grand Tours in the future. But you know: Visma won two Grand Tours this season.

But younger talents like Cian naturally also want to seize their opportunities. He wants to try, to figure out where his level lies. After an analysis with Richard Plugge, the conclusion was that they want to give Cian that opportunity with another team.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

You also need to be given that opportunity, and Visma wasn't planning on giving him that. At least not in GT's. Which means he would need to do a whole season of proving himself when he just want to go for it. Not to mention if Visma actually thought he had it in him, they would keep him.

It's almost like going to a team where he'd be fifth priority at most after crying and screaming about abuse because his fe-fes were hurt by not being #1 priority at Bora was a bad idea that anybody could have seen coming.

 

[Red Rick]

Huh? That's not how I read it at all, or most people in this topic. It's not a money thing. His manager said:

"More than he's worth" also as in more leadership than he's earned at Visma.

The two go hand in hand. Getting team leadership will never come with getting less money. In fact, it would be way more stupid to go to Movistar if you're taking a paycut to do it.

And for Visma it also gets much easier to let a rider go if they're getting a pay out for it.

And generally, no rider is gonna admit he's moving teams for the money. That's just PR 101. It makes no sense to ignore the fact that PR statements are just that.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Is he prepared to help enric mas win the 2026 vuelta????

 

[Unchained]

This guy is super talented and if he has the right guidance he will achieve greatness

I'm saying that if Visma actually thought Uijtdebroeks had a GT podium performance in him. They would give in to his demands of letting him go for GC's in a GT. Visma doesn't believe in him, so have no problem with letting him go.

you are 100000% right..... you need a program that believes in you..
Wouldn't hurt to be in a constant state of brownnose asking Wout, Vingegaard, Victor, Jorgonsen, what am I am missing, what do I need.. What don't I see?.

.This kid can make it despite himself..

Sure not shortest distance but he is 22, he can still make it.. Get on the phone to Valverde..save me.. Need help.. I am sinking. That balding brilliant racer can take him on as a project and propel him to the top.. Ask Valverde to steer him around the rocks and choppy currents.. He knows it.
He needs individual, intensive instruction..

 

[Rob5091]

He needs individual, intensive instruction..

Maybe he actually believes he can win "clean"??