Clasico RCN - Comcel 51 Años 30/9/2011 - 9/10/2011

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infantino goes like a TGV in the time trial right now.gotta say he remembers me,keeping the proportions, of a certain lance armstrong with those massive shoulders.his style of climbing is pretty awesome
 
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Mejores Tiempos en el Km. 12:
1. Rafael Infantino (Epm-Une),
2. Ivan Parra (Epm-Une) a 1:00

henao already at two minutes!!fuccin train,bring him to europe corti and take care of him
 
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Parra sets a new best time with 41:01. Looks like Infantino will be faster than 40 minutes.

Infantino 40:05.
 
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Just like in La Vuelta a Colombia, he lost his podium in the TT.

Henao lost also serious time in the TT in Colorado.

He lost Two Vueltas a la Juventud to Uran because of TT.

He has serious issues on this department. Sky needs to work hard on his TT with him.

Congratulations to Infantino. What a great Champion.
 
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Resultados: Etapa 9(17 kms):
1. Rafael Infantino (Epm-Une) 40:05, 25.45 km/h!!!
2. Ivan Parra (Epm-Une) a 56 seg.,
3. Luis F. López (Fabrica de Licores de Antioquia) a 1:28,
4. Oscar Rivera (Epm-Une) a 2:08,
5. Fernando Camargo (Boyacá Orgullo de América) a 2:28

damn he flew up to santa helena,to go like this at 2000-2500 altitude is just insane!this might be a record for the climb


Resultados: Clasificación General Final:
1. Rafael Infantino (Epm-Une),
2. Julian Rodas (Gobernación de Antioquia) a 5:04,
3. Ivan Parra (Epm-Une) a 5:40,
4. Darwin Atapuma (Policia Nacional a 6:00,
5. Sergio Heno (Gobernación de Antioquia) a 6:50,
6. Mauricio Ortega (Epm-Une) a 8:04,
7. Alexander Giraldo (Exito) a 10:16,
8. Gregory Brenes (Movistar) a 12:42,
9. Oscar Rivera (Une-Epm) a 13:11,
10. Giovanni Báez (Epm-Une) a 13:12

4 epm guys in the final top ten plus one from the u23 squad,astonishing.

great clasico rcn edition!
i really hope that the rumours of a live vuelta a colombia 2012 will be true.and they say a decent live broadcast.
 
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Infantino's performance in the TT reminds me of Sevilla in the Vuelta Colombia....and not in a good way. Sorry.
 
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will10 said:
Infantino's performance in the TT reminds me of Sevilla in the Vuelta Colombia....and not in a good way. Sorry.
Raul Meza is a fox but we will never know.

I have good feelings about Infantino though. We'll see. He'll probably end up in Europe in the near future.
 
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Escarabajo said:
I have good feelings about Infantino though. We'll see. He'll probably end up in Europe in the near future.


Any chance he'll go to that new Colombian team next year?
 
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Just finished seeing the higlights of the final stage. What's next on the calendar? I sure miss that America Tour thread that was on last year.
 
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Escarabajo said:
Just like in La Vuelta a Colombia, he lost his podium in the TT.

Henao lost also serious time in the TT in Colorado.

He lost Two Vueltas a la Juventud to Uran because of TT.

He has serious issues on this department. Sky needs to work hard on his TT with him.

Congratulations to Infantino. What a great Champion.

this was a mountain itt :rolleyes: 25 km/h ring a bell?

do I need to remind you that he won vuelta colombia partly because of his long flat itt where he was 5th. also he didn't have his itt bike in utah and colorado

he also lost tremendous time in antioquia in this same mountain itt up santa helena. he just really sucks up the santa helena climb probably because it;s steep. henao has serious issues with longer steeper climbs this year in colombia
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
this was a mountain itt :rolleyes: 25 km/h ring a bell?

do I need to remind you that he won vuelta colombia partly because of his long flat itt where he was 5th. also he didn't have his itt bike in utah and colorado

he also lost tremendous time in antioquia in this same mountain itt up santa helena. he just really sucks up the santa helena climb probably because it;s steep. henao has serious issues with longer steeper climbs this year in colombia
Sorry Ryo but I think your are nitpicking. I hope you are correct. But I am afraid he has some issues in this department in general. Not just an specific mountain.

Going to the last TT in La Vuelta his only real threat was Sevilla. By that time he had already made a sizeble difference with the other adversaries.
 
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he's no itt specialist, but his trouble problems lay in real steep and long climbs and his use of heavy gears which make him vulnerable on them. we will have to see in europe wether he will be a gt man or a classics specialist
 
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Santa Elena is long, but not particularly steep - about 6-6.5% I think. Still, as you said earlier in the thread (wrt Botero), climbing performances in Colombia doesn't necessarily cross over to Europe. I agree about the heavy gears though.
 
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it is an unregular climb with steeper parts. on every long and steep climb in this years colombian calendar where he participated he couldn't follow the best. this is not the henao of junior or early u23 years when he was also 5 kg lighter and rode much lighter gears. botero made him more a power rider and improved enormously his sprint, downhil and also itt, maybe for europe this will just be perfect, botero should know. in utah for instance he was the best climber with leipheimer while he was not in topshape. trying to build to rcn. we will have to see and wait but right now from the golden 3 I see only duarte as standing a chance winning a true gt
 
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Interesting - Duarte is definitely the best climber of the three but he also seems to have the worst recovery. I still think Henao will do well in GTs, he should be able to shed some of that extra muscle if necessary.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
it is an unregular climb with steeper parts. on every long and steep climb in this years colombian calendar where he participated he couldn't follow the best. this is not the henao of junior or early u23 years when he was also 5 kg lighter and rode much lighter gears. botero made him more a power rider and improved enormously his sprint, downhil and also itt, maybe for europe this will just be perfect, botero should know. in utah for instance he was the best climber with leipheimer while he was not in topshape. trying to build to rcn. we will have to see and wait but right now from the golden 3 I see only duarte as standing a chance winning a true gt
Interesting thought. I am still positive about Henao because of something that Duartista said before: he minimizes his losses when in a bad day.

For some reason I only saw Duarte as the most favored to win a GT also.

Now we might have to add Betancur and call them the Golden 4.

I think being more bulky for Europe might be better, so I kind of agree with Botero in that count. Maybe it translates into being more consistent. We'll know next year.
 
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Escarabajo said:
Interesting thought. I am still positive about Henao because of something that Duartista said before: he minimizes his losses when in a bad day.

For some reason I only saw Duarte as the most favored to win a GT also.

Now we might have to add Betancur and call them the Golden 4.


I think being more bulky for Europe might be better, so I kind of agree with Botero in that count. Maybe it translates into being more consistent. We'll know next year.

If I had to bet on a Colombian winning a GT in the next 10 years it would probably be Quintana. He is potentially the best climber of all of them and defends himself better in TTs than all except Uran. Also, from reading interviews and stuff, he seems to have a very good head on his shoulders.
 
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Duartista said:
If I had to bet on a Colombian winning a GT in the next 10 years it would probably be Quintana. He is potentially the best climber of all of them and defends himself better in TTs than all except Uran. Also, from reading interviews and stuff, he seems to have a very good head on his shoulders.
Don't you think Quintana is too small?

Very few small riders have won GT's in the past such as Van-Impe.
 
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Escarabajo said:
Don't you think Quintana is too small?

Very few small riders have won GT's in the past such as Van-Impe.
Not really, although I guess it could happen that he loses too much energy on the flat. Heras was under 60kg, for one example. How heavy was Herrera?
 
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Duartista said:
Not really, although I guess it coupld happen that he loses too much energy on the flat. Heras was under 60kg, for one example. How heavy was Herrera?
I have him on 140 lbs. He won the Tour of Spain. So maybe he can win that one. Belda did a podium there in 1981.
 

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