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I assume you're refering to -
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/27/team-sky-bradley-wiggins-doctor-british-cycling-mystery-package
Freeman also told the select committee that the experience of the Scottish skier Alain Baxter, who had lost out on an Olympic medal because he had taken Vick containing a banned substance, had made them wary of buying medicines over the counter. “It was very important to be sure that any medicines sent to the team on tour were appropriate and from a reliable source,” he wrote.
Which seems a lot of bs to my, admittedly, un-GP-trained thinking.
 
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Robert5091 said:
I assume you're refering to -
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/27/team-sky-bradley-wiggins-doctor-british-cycling-mystery-package
Freeman also told the select committee that the experience of the Scottish skier Alain Baxter, who had lost out on an Olympic medal because he had taken Vick containing a banned substance, had made them wary of buying medicines over the counter. “It was very important to be sure that any medicines sent to the team on tour were appropriate and from a reliable source,” he wrote.
Which seems a lot of bs to my, admittedly, un-GP-trained thinking.
Which part of it is BS? Given strict liability, people need to know what they are ordering. Medicines in one country are not always the exact same in another country. If you can afford to buy from a trusted supplier and ship it, you will do that, the same as some teams pay to have supplements tested for contamination.
 
I would have thought within the EU it would not be a problem. It's not like cyclists in France, Span, Italy etc are getting busted regularly for taking "dodgy medicines". It's also up to the doc to know what to order for his patient. Maybe Sky & BC had a deal with a certain supplier too?
 
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yaco said:
Sam - Think you inadvertently answered my question - You state the IOC has retested 500 samples from the 2012 Olympics - My estimation tells me there were about 10,000 athletes at the 2012 Olympic Games.
Well not everyone gets tested, nowhere near. It will be similar to Cycling. The podium 3 and then a smal random/targeted selection, some via ABP indicators etc. There wont be 10000 samples. I would be suprised if much more than 1000 including tbe ABP ones.
 
From Matt Lawton today
https://twitter.com/Matt_Lawton_DM/status/1097841662473183232
Preliminary legal argument on Richard Freeman’s MPTS hearing now expected to run into next week. Was supposed to begin on Feb 6 and scheduled to finish on March 5. Farcical.
Edit- Once again, for those just joining the fun, the MPTS website with Freemans hearing details at https://www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals/dr-richard-freeman-feb-19
(edit - spelling!)
 
Not much for anyone to report, but some speculation on what is being discussed:
Former British Cycling and Team Sky doctor Richard Freeman's tribunal has been postponed again while the panel of judges continues to hear 'preliminary legal argument', the medical practitioners' tribunal service has confirmed.

The hearing was meant to start at the MPTS's Manchester base on February 6 but was immediately adjourned when Dr Freeman's legal team made a private application to the tribunal.

The nature of that application is unknown but it is thought to be related to Dr Freeman's mental health and the two parties have been arguing the matter for 10 days.
The MPTS are kicking the ball into next week:
'Please be advised that the preliminary legal argument being made in the hearing of Dr Freeman will continue throughout this week. This means that we do not expect a decision on the application until sometime next week.'
 
Well the only good thing to come out of the delay, is I assume this isn't just about Freeman's mental health, unless it takes MPTS this long to decipher his psychologists handwriting signing him off!

What does that leave O'Rourke left with to open/continue preliminary legal arguments with under MPTS rules?
All I can see is an argument over medical privacy of witness(s) or an argument about MPTS/GMC's legal jurisdiction to decide Freeman's 'motive' was a doping one.
 
As the Tribunal is due to end March 5 (next Tuesday) that's only 7 working days (including today) away. If the plan was to stall, then, chapeau! The doc/Sky/BC have got their money's worth. Although with this still hanging in the air, will it cause problems for SDB and his sponsor hunt?
 
A couple of journalists have said they believe Brailsford already has a new sponsor lined up ready to buy Tour Racing Ltd and takeover sponsorship for a while and before Colombia and tribunal start date. They claimed the deal is already at a very advanced stage and announcement is due shortly. Maybe this week apparantly.
 
https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1100423065748553728
New twist in the farcical medical tribunal of ex Br Cycling / Team Sky doc Richard Freeman. After 3 weeks of preliminary legal argument, a new application has now been raised - so the previous application has been put on hold. A case scheduled to end next Tue still hasn’t started
see also https://www.eurosport.co.uk/cycling/preliminary-legal-arguments-mean-ex-team-sky-doctors-tribunal-delayed-again_sto7162660/story.shtml#uk-tw-sh
 
I wonder what the second application is covering? Assuming the first was legal argument over the Testogel motive & Ordering allegations, would seem the second legal argument is over the medical treatment of staff and Freeman's prescription management maybe?
 
The ongoing Austrian doping scandal is a nice distraction for Sky/BC but ultimately it taints pro-cycling's image even more.

One can hope that Preidler's public confession *** the conscience of a few more. But lawyers with NDA's tend to outweigh "penitential reflection".

(edit - bad spelling!)
 
It will be interesting to see what from the allegations get edited once re-listed on MPTS calendar as a new tribunal starting from scratch again. If nothing's changed, that would beg the question, what exactly was discussed for 3 weeks?
 
samhocking said:
It will be interesting to see what from the allegations get edited once re-listed on MPTS calendar as a new tribunal starting from scratch again. If nothing's changed, that would beg the question, what exactly was discussed for 3 weeks?
the physiological circumstances under which a 2kg stool is produced I would warrant
 

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