Whatndoes David Walsh say aboout this all, he was very loud with Armstrong? Or has he moved on from cycling? Not in the UK, so I have not followed him.
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Walsh is quite a bit softer on Ineos than he was on Armstrong and has kinda gone quiet recently. His contemporary Kimmage from back in the Armstrong days is still going all guns blazing though
He's demanding that Freeman must "come clean on cycling’s dark arts and the ‘jiffy bag’ case". He's said recently he was disappointed by the way he allowed himself to be duped by Brailsford, but he's still standing shoulder to shoulder with Froome (they are still tied together by that ghosted autobiog).
Thinking ahead to Wednesday. O'Rourke submitted a request for GMC to make a section 35A legal application to the Daily Mail on 8th Nov for Sutton's affidavit with Lawton. This would mean by Friday 22nd they could have it.
Under the Medical Act, Daily Mail have 14 days to provide the document and failure to provide it would then mean GMC can request the County Court to obtain it using the Medical Act on their behalf.
Will Daily Mail delay the tribunal, taking it past 20th December without all the evidence O'Rourke requested for her client through the County Courts, or will they hang Sutton and reveal their jiffybag story isn't to be believed given Sutton's opposite claim under ( effective) oath to Parliament's DCMS?
Under the Medical Act, Daily Mail have 14 days to provide the document and failure to provide it would then mean GMC can request the County Court to obtain it using the Medical Act on their behalf.
Will Daily Mail delay the tribunal, taking it past 20th December without all the evidence O'Rourke requested for her client through the County Courts, or will they hang Sutton and reveal their jiffybag story isn't to be believed given Sutton's opposite claim under ( effective) oath to Parliament's DCMS?
Given he can only not be charged over the Testogel, if the panel decides Sutton's word is less reiable than Freeman's, I would say it is about the most important piece of evidence myself. The MPTS panel will see Sutton claiming to DCMS/Paliament nothing in the jiffybag, no wrongdoing - even taking offence at the suggestion from the DCMS there was any wrongdoing, while all along he's signed the affidavit with Lawton that the Jiffy contains Triamcinolone and the reason they are all there in the first place.
Is there a reputation to uphold for Daily Mail? Obviously Daily Mail are insured against defamation claims but Sutton won't be and if it is revealed Lawton went with a made up contents from Sutton which seems the only possible outcome if they release the affidavit to GMC, is 'that' something they will just let Sutton take the blame and absorb the embarrassment themselves, or will they want to protect their own integrity by fighting in the the Courts with Wiggins? Remember Wiggins has already stated this is with the Courts last year already. I highly doubt Wiggins himself had the power of Medical Act to force Daily Mail to release the affidavit to him though. It has ramifications far beyond Freeman & Sutton for Daily Mail imo.
Is there a reputation to uphold for Daily Mail? Obviously Daily Mail are insured against defamation claims but Sutton won't be and if it is revealed Lawton went with a made up contents from Sutton which seems the only possible outcome if they release the affidavit to GMC, is 'that' something they will just let Sutton take the blame and absorb the embarrassment themselves, or will they want to protect their own integrity by fighting in the the Courts with Wiggins? Remember Wiggins has already stated this is with the Courts last year already. I highly doubt Wiggins himself had the power of Medical Act to force Daily Mail to release the affidavit to him though. It has ramifications far beyond Freeman & Sutton for Daily Mail imo.
Kimmage very rarely writes about cycling these days. His recent clinic related articles have mainly concerned rugby union.
all most the same with digger_forum once a regular here, before twitter called.
Digger and co, Twitter seems to reward their tinfoil hatted theories better. They're very much on the fringe of cycling Twitter but, echo chamber that it is, Twitter amplifies their craziness. As do FUD merchants like CT who think their conspiracy theories need to be written about Off Twitter.
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Digger wants to through mud and *** yet wants to hide behind a stupid mask when on TV....plastic hard man who should have went public if he really believed what he was posting on Twitter
Who is this Digger lad. Google threw up a few articles but nothing about who he is. Is he just a social media poster or someone who was involved in cycling?
I've read a few of them when Ive been able to get my hands on an Independent. As usual he has some great points but his style of mixing facts and emotion often gets in the way if him getting the points across
And as has already been noted, O'Rourke's motives for playing the 35A card could have little to do with actually getting access to the contents of the Mail's safe. She could simply have been trying to wind Sutton up (partly, as with the doping allegation, by making clear in public what has been known/suspected in private for ages, that Sutton was the source of the Jiffy bag story). Or she could be using it as a way to derail the tribunal by forcing it to chase the Mail up the legal ladder of appeal and counter appeal. The contents of the safe - that Sutton tells porkies - is already proven. But it is also proven that Freeman tells porkies. How O'Rourke spins Peters's evidence on that regard - that neither Freeman nor Sutton can be trusted, and that the Testogel was more likely for Freeman's personal use than Sutton's - is probably more important at this stage than what is or is not in the Mail's safe.
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A lot of what Digger writes though is pretty bang on.
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He plays up to his selected audience, I’m not surprised you think what he writes is true
Sam......ever heard the term 'web of deceit'.....once one is told...a number follow.....unless you are suggesting the Mail safe is the font of all known truths??? I wonder what else they have in there??
.......and, are we now beliveing 'proven' liars when they tell us they are telling the truth?
It's funny how the Provincial Wing of BC's PR Dept think this is about the Jiffy bag, that this is somehow about disproving the Jiffy bag story. It isn't. O'Rourke simply wants to use the Jiffy bag story to say Sutton is not to be believed. But, she's since suggested there could now be "a humdinger of a debate" over whether Sutton's evidence should be struck from the record ... or whether she can introduce evidence she was going to put to him. There's the tribunal's choice, as she's trying to frame it. Kill Sutton's value (whatever it might be at this stage) to the GMC one way, or kill Sutton's value to the GMC (whatever it might be at this stage) another. She doesn't care about the Jiffy bag. No one does. Apart from the Provincial Wing of BC's PR Dept.
Mr Allardichi legend only in his own mind and Limerick FC.
But on a serious note football has been putting off a huge reckoning with drugs for a long time now. Fuentes although unreliable said he doped Spanish world cup footballers round the same time certain big Spanish clubs were posting record breaking work rates in terms of meters covered per man
I had a feeling he was Irish based on his twitter's about other sport. Any idea which station and when he was on Irish TV. Would love to see this mad wierdo live
Here's one of his appearances.
View: https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/1020236632090447873
Explosive revelations include:
Thomas is a better GT rider than he used to be
Sky have a strong team
The French fans boo
And he mixes Marvel & DC, which is sort of unforgivable
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