With Freeman claiming the Testogel was for Sutton, he's key the the GMC's case. So, from the off, O'Rourke has sought to discredit Sutton using any means possible and deny him any value to the GMC. Show that he lies. Show that he's a bully. All the guff about the Mail's safe and everything else, it's all been part of the same agenda.So all this against Sutton is to try and show that Freeman is the 'innocent' man in all of this and he was pushed or whatever by Sutton?
You might be interested to know that the BBC amended their story on account of what you posted (I Tweeted the link to the BBC journalist in Manchester): they've now removed the specificity around the Edinburgh accusation. It's now just that "he received drugs in a McDonalds toilet in Edinburgh. "I am available to give evidence if required.
Peters also said "At no time did I see any evidence it was for a rider. That’s a ‘huge leap" though, so rather nulls GMC's charge anyway regardless. If the panel decide it was for Freeman, the charges are dropped anyway.With Freeman claiming the Testogel was for Sutton, he's key the the GMC's case. So, from the off, O'Rourke has sought to discredit Sutton using any means possible and deny him any value to the GMC. Show that he lies. Show that he's a bully. All the guff about the Mail's safe and everything else, it's all been part of the same agenda.
But ... bear in mind that in Peters's evidence, he said it was more likely that Freeman wanted the Tesotgel for himself, than that he was made order it by Sutton. So, GMC not down and out. Flimsy and all as there case in this regard is.
Although Sutton effectively left Sky at the same time as those other staff members and sent back to BC. From head coach to a'consultancy role' and never seen around the team againPerhaps the most damaging on Brailsford, is that other ex-riders admitted their doping and were asked to leave and did so. Sutton didn't, so that could be seen as a failure by Brailsford, but as he said, he can't force staff to admit they doped and if the authorities have no evidence, what's he supposed to do.
Maybe it was pizza expressI don't think this will cause the case to collapse, but McDonalds didn't open in Scotland until 1987, so probably a Wimpy. I am available to give evidence if required.
January 2013, Sutton steps down as Head Coach. And given 'consultancy role' to save face, but is actually a non-job.No, that's not what happened. Brailsford's Team Sky Zero Tolerance Policy was signed by all 80 staff and riders in November 2012. Brailsford didn't vacate the BC position until 2014 and Sutton moved into it, so 2 years later.
This seems to be the tactic. O'Rourke is far more intent on smearing Sutton than defending Freeman, which says a lot IMO. As much as I can't stand Shane Sutton, he's not the one in the wrong this time.Pretty sure O'Rourke raised her profile far more as QC for Dr Al-Zayyat in Baby P GMC case personally as that went to High Court afterall and was a far bigger story than Sutton & Freeman. This is cycling, it's not that important.
As for BC, they're claimaints alongside GMC. It would be extremely stupid of them to attempt to pay off Freeman lol!
For Ineos & Brailsford, there's no riders involved either and Sutton is already sacked anyway and Freeman long gone over Jiffybag story which is bubbling under and about to explode again if this goes to High Court with 35A etc. Today O'Rourke says she will use Sutton signature on Team Sky's Zero Tolerance policy as evidence he lied he was never involved in doping alongside the witnesses evidence claiming he was/is a doper. Perhaps the most damaging on Brailsford, is that other ex-riders admitted their doping and were asked to leave and did so. Sutton didn't, so that could be seen as a failure by Brailsford, but as he said, he can't force staff to admit they doped and if the authorities have no evidence, what's he supposed to do.
Perhaps todays missed nugget is O'Rourke says Sutton has been intimidating Freeman throughout the tribunal via text messages, so Sutton is simply digging his own grave now and GMC no doubt knocking their head against the wall!
No. What is happening is many suspect the rumours and most will believe. But apart from the most fanatical doping fans, no-one cares that someone may have taken a few pills 35 years ago. It's of no relevance to the present or even the recent past. Particularly in view of the subsequent history of cycling. Every team or federation employs a worse doper than him.My fear is this is what is happening with the Sutton accusations; many suspected, a number knew, but it suits the establishment to be in denial to protect the stance they have chosen to take against Freeman.
This isn't about his doping; it is about his integrity and honesty, both of which are highly questionable.No. What is happening is many suspect the rumours and most will believe. But apart from the most fanatical doping fans, no-one cares that someone may have taken a few pills 35 years ago. It's of no relevance to the present or even the recent past. Particularly in view of the subsequent history of cycling. Every team or federation employs a worse doper than him.
Let's remember that no-one in the 80s took doping seriously. The punishment for a positive test was usually relegation to last on the stage. In 1988 Tour Theunisse tested positive for testoterone and only got a ten minute penalty - he stayed in the race.
And I don't see that what someone may or may not have done over 30 years ago has any bearing on their integrity and honesty now.This isn't about his doping; it is about his integrity and honesty, both of which are highly questionable.
Then you're not taking account of how people are and you haven't being paying attention to the litany of complaints about Sutton's attitude and behaviour. A person's personality is generally set between the ages of 25-30; if you were an arsehole in your 30's it is highly likely you will be an arsehole the rest of your life.And I don't see that what someone may or may not have done over 30 years ago has any bearing on their integrity and honesty now.
People aren't all the same. Far from it. And most people in middle age will cringe at the memory of certain aspects of themselves in their 20s.Then you're not taking account of how people are and you haven't being paying attention to the litany of complaints about Sutton's attitude and behaviour. A person's personality is generally set between the ages of 25-30; if you were an arsehole in your 30's it is highly likely you will be an arsehole the rest of your life.
Exhibit 1: TimberladThis seems to be the tactic. O'Rourke is far more intent on smearing Sutton than defending Freeman, which says a lot IMO. As much as I can't stand Shane Sutton, he's not the one in the wrong this time.
Interesting how the picture of Sutton has changed for some people between the Varnish cerfuffle and this - going from "blunt, straight shooting Australian with no tact just wanting the best for the UK track team" to "unstable, intimidating, alpha male bully". Couldn't see that coming...![]()
That'll be because I'm just some armchair mug who believes what I'm told without question. I couldn't possibly have a mind of my own.Ex
Exhibit 1: Timberlad
Yes, and Brailsford vacates BC position in 2014 and Sutton is then sideways promoted.January 2013, Sutton steps down as Head Coach. And given 'consultancy role' to save face, but is actually a non-job.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jan/18/team-sky-shane-sutton-head-coach
Yes, and Brailsford vacates BC position in 2014 and Sutton is then sideways promoted.
Wiggins was back to Track targets for 2014 off Roubaix. I think Sutton & his sideways move at BC to fill Brailsfords boots was as much about Wiggins returning to Manchester for Rio as the Zero Tolerance Policy ousting Sutton from Sky, but we'll probably never know exactly, maybe both obviously.
Nothing new 'til Monday, Freeman seeing his shrink today.After two days of deliberation, tribunal chair Neil Dalton said the case must continue and the defence's half-time application had been rejected.
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