CMS Doping in sport revelations/discussion

[F_Cance]

Exactly. O'Rourkes only strategy was to turn this into a farce

 

[fmk_RoI]

Sad face. Postponed til tomorrow.

Maybe they're trying to turn it into Freeman: The Musical!

• Test-oss-terone! It really is quite silly!
• The coach, he said, he used it for his willy!

(They're actually arguing over Sutton. Freeman's QC still wants his evidence ignored, GMC now want to submit the Dan Roan interview.)

Now they're saying Thursday. Obviously not clear cut one way or the other...

 

[topcat]

Sutton's evidence and Dan Roan's interview are in.

 

[MartinGT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1202889933431676929

View: https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1202889933431676929

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1202891464017096704

View: https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1202891464017096704


Will we get anything from it?

 

[42x16ss]

Let's hope so. Freeman's legal team looked to be counting on the Sutton psych out tactic, so I'm happy it's admissible regardless.

 

[samhocking]

I'm glad it's admissible as the bigger back story in all this would probably never come out otherwise. Also interesting yesterday was O'Rourke said the Daily Mail insider who told her about the contents of Sutton's affidavit is in fear of their job if their witness statement is heard in public, which could be interesting . Looks like it will have to be adjourned until March/April though according to O'Rourke's schedule in the new year.

 

[samhocking]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1202889933431676929

View: https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1202889933431676929

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1202891464017096704

View: https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1202891464017096704


Will we get anything from it?

GMC appear to be submitting Freeman's reply to Roan stating "I was never bullied to give medication by Shane Sutton" when asked "Were you bullied into giving medication that you didn't think was right"? in the context of Wiggins/riders in light of Jiffybag story.
Seems rather different contexts to me, I'm surprised it's been decided as applicable evidence. Dan Roan is clearly talking about medicating athletes and wrongdoing/lines, Freeman is simply talking about Sutton & ED to GMC.

 

[MartinGT]

Whole thing is a farce

 

[samhocking]

Suggestions it's going to go to Court in Daily Mail, which means almost less than nothing lol!

 

[fmk_RoI]

Spin it out past Dec 20th, or collapse it before a verdict, O'Rouke's goal from the get-go has been pretty clear: as long as Freeman's keeping his licence, she's winning:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1203999768776728582

View: https://twitter.com/alistairmagowan/status/1203999768776728582

 

[fmk_RoI]

(Between Freeman's doc prescribing skiing holidays for his depression and Victoria Pendleton telling peeps to go surfing, you gotta wonder about the culture in British Cycling. It was bad enough when Peters was telling them to spank the monkey... )

 

[fmk_RoI]

From Friday - after Sutton's evidence was allowed to stand, and the Dan Roan interview was allowed to be introduced, Freeman's QC, Violet Elizabeth O'Rourke threatened the hearing with a visit to the High Court for a judicial review:

O’Rourke said she would still be making a submission to have the remaining charges thrown out and raised the possibility of applying for a judicial review into the decision to allow Sutton’s evidence.

Delay, Deny, Distort, Defame, Distract, Dissumulate - this is a familiar playbook...

 

[samhocking]

You think Freeman is keeping his licence? They have doctors erased for rather simple offences like working one job while calling in sick to a second to get sick pay, so I think erasure for the number of charges Freeman admitted to is almost guaranteed fmk.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Violet Elizabeth O'Rourke again threatens a visit to the High Court: “At some stage you will have rule on it, or it has to be ruled by the man in the red dressing gown.” Tribunal gives in and lets her publicly rip Sutton to pieces:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1204370913757728769

View: https://twitter.com/alistairmagowan/status/1204370913757728769

 

[The Meenister]

Receiving drugs in a McDonalds toilet in Edinburgh around time of 1986 Commonwealth Games

I don't think this will cause the case to collapse, but McDonalds didn't open in Scotland until 1987, so probably a Wimpy. I am available to give evidence if required.

 

[fmk_RoI]

but McDonalds didn't open in Scotland until 1987,

And here's a piccie of it.

 

[samhocking]

Jackson QC did agree that O'Rourke could submit all her witness evidence re. Sutton, that she intended to before Sutton walked out. He doesn't have much choice though obviously.

 

[MartinGT]

OT but read there's now more foodbanks in the UK than McDonalds now.

 

[MartinGT]

So all this against Sutton is to try and show that Freeman is the 'innocent' man in all of this and he was pushed or whatever by Sutton?

 

[MartinGT]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/50725914

 

[TourOfSardinia]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/50725914

Shane Sutton was handed a coke can full of urine by a current coach to try to avoid a positive drugs test while he was a rider.

 

[fmk_RoI]

So all this against Sutton is to try and show that Freeman is the 'innocent' man in all of this and he was pushed or whatever by Sutton?

With Freeman claiming the Testogel was for Sutton, he's key the the GMC's case. So, from the off, O'Rourke has sought to discredit Sutton using any means possible and deny him any value to the GMC. Show that he lies. Show that he's a bully. All the guff about the Mail's safe and everything else, it's all been part of the same agenda.

But ... bear in mind that in Peters's evidence, he said it was more likely that Freeman wanted the Tesotgel for himself, than that he was made order it by Sutton. So, GMC not down and out. Flimsy and all as there case in this regard is.

 

[fmk_RoI]

I am available to give evidence if required.

You might be interested to know that the BBC amended their story on account of what you posted (I Tweeted the link to the BBC journalist in Manchester): they've now removed the specificity around the Edinburgh accusation. It's now just that "he received drugs in a McDonalds toilet in Edinburgh. "

 

[samhocking]

With Freeman claiming the Testogel was for Sutton, he's key the the GMC's case. So, from the off, O'Rourke has sought to discredit Sutton using any means possible and deny him any value to the GMC. Show that he lies. Show that he's a bully. All the guff about the Mail's safe and everything else, it's all been part of the same agenda.

But ... bear in mind that in Peters's evidence, he said it was more likely that Freeman wanted the Tesotgel for himself, than that he was made order it by Sutton. So, GMC not down and out. Flimsy and all as there case in this regard is.

Peters also said "At no time did I see any evidence it was for a rider. That’s a ‘huge leap" though, so rather nulls GMC's charge anyway regardless. If the panel decide it was for Freeman, the charges are dropped anyway.

Peters also agreed with O’Rourke’s analysis that Sutton had a "tendency to be emotionally unstable and could lash out"

No doubt Nicole Cooke, her dad, Jess Varnish and Freeman's other witnesses will back up what Peters said too.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Back in two days. Or maybe longer.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1204451597293674497

View: https://twitter.com/alistairmagowan/status/1204451597293674497