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topcat said:The case is now scheduled for never. Sky problems don't die, they just fade away.
I do so hate rising to the bait of yet more unsourced claims, but please, a source for the claim that he said his legal fees for the UKAD inquiry were paid out of medical insurance. If you say he said it, you won't have any problem providing that much. And I suspect you actually meant the CMS not GMC inquiry, seeing as there was no previous GMC inquiry. Unless you're claiming to have yet more knowledge no one else has. The rest, I won't ask you to back it up, I'll just take it with the usual fistful of salt.samhocking said:Just like any of us working in liable industries, Freeman's legal costs will be paid by his medical indemnity body he would have to pay into as a GP I would hope! This is how he said his previous GMC & UKAD legal costs were paid for during Jiffygate for example.
“it was a very difficult time because my professional integrity was brought into question. I had my own medical defence union, my medical indemnity society lawyers helping me, they were my mainstay
Once again you appear to be demonstrating a worrying ability to claim that something says something it does not. Getting legal advice from your union is not the same as getting a QC paid for by your insurers. When it does provide representation, the MDU provides in-house legal experts, not outsourced.samhocking said:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its-outrageous-to-suggest-i-injected-bradley-wiggins-on-bus-08nf8zxj9
“it was a very difficult time because my professional integrity was brought into question. I had my own medical defence union, my medical indemnity society lawyers helping me, they were my mainstay
A couple of GPs on Dan Roan's tweets have said this would be normal for his legal protection to come from medical indemnity/liability insurance.
If you read the full transcript from Dan Roan's jiffygate interview, Freeman says he couldn't discuss the testogel order because he was currently under GMC investigation for his medical management policy. Clearly it doesn't actually matter what legal fees were paid that apply to GMC or UKAD, both would have generated legal costs paid by his medical defence union & indemnity policy.
Wow, what a way to say you don't know what you're talking about and haven't even understood what you posted. Yes, he has insurance. How much insurance does he have? You don't know. What does his insurance cover? You don't know. He appears to be saying he has coverage through the MDU. As I have said, the MDU provides in-house representation at tribunals (his "indemnity society lawyers"), not outsourced QCs.samhocking said:I think his description using 'indemnity society lawyers' suggest he pays into a medical body. I might be wrong, but like e.g. myself, I wouldn't actually be able to work without it. It's a contractual condition to do what I do and part of that is £2.5 million legal protection. I can even choose what lawyers I want to represent me too.
This artlcle seems to suggest a GP is required to have Indemnity Insurance to practice.
https://www.gponline.com/know-so-far-plans-state-backed-gp-indemnity/article/1447763
If you carry out any private practice, you’ll need to arrange adequate and appropriate insurance or indemnity (even if this work takes place on NHS or HSC premises). This applies even if the work is in addition to work you do for a trust or board in the NHS or HSC.
Many independent healthcare providers will ask you for confirmation of your insurance or indemnity arrangements as part of their pre-employment checks. Some independent healthcare providers provide insurance and indemnity but you should always check that it gives you adequate cover for all of your work.
If you’re doing non-NHS or non-HSC private work in the UK but your EU wide insurance was arranged outside of the UK, you must make sure that:
your EU insurance or indemnity from outside the UK covers your work in the UK, and
your EU insurance or indemnity is adequate and appropriate, and of sufficient value (at least the same value as a UK policy of insurance or with the same scope as a UK indemnity arrangement) to cover any claims made about your practice in the UK through the UK legal system.
Wholly irrelavant to what I said but thank you for yet again telling us just how professional you are.samhocking said:If you've ever bought your own professional indemnity and liability insurances to do your job you will know it's generally sold in £2.5m or £5m policy chunks. I've never seen a professional indemnity that provides less than £2.5m legal costs where you can't use your own lawyer that they pay for. Even as a BC Coach, they are covered with £5m professional indemnity as part of their £42/year membership.
It would seem GMC require indemnity to practice just like I require it too.
https://www.gmc-uk.org/registration-and-licensing/managing-your-registration/information-for-doctors-on-the-register/insurance-indemnity-and-medico-legal-support
If you carry out any private practice, you’ll need to arrange adequate and appropriate insurance or indemnity (even if this work takes place on NHS or HSC premises). This applies even if the work is in addition to work you do for a trust or board in the NHS or HSC.
Many independent healthcare providers will ask you for confirmation of your insurance or indemnity arrangements as part of their pre-employment checks. Some independent healthcare providers provide insurance and indemnity but you should always check that it gives you adequate cover for all of your work.
If you’re doing non-NHS or non-HSC private work in the UK but your EU wide insurance was arranged outside of the UK, you must make sure that:
your EU insurance or indemnity from outside the UK covers your work in the UK, and
your EU insurance or indemnity is adequate and appropriate, and of sufficient value (at least the same value as a UK policy of insurance or with the same scope as a UK indemnity arrangement) to cover any claims made about your practice in the UK through the UK legal system.
Well, Sam you could start by looking at what the MDU cover actually covers and stop trying to extrapolate from your rather limited and very tiresome personal experience.samhocking said:Happy for you to go and find a GP indemnity policy that couldn't pay your legal fees as a GP lol! What would be the point of potentially being able to kill multiple people, if your indemnity wouldn't cover you? As I said, £2.5m legal expense cover is the smallest i've ever seen and that's in a similar industry where I could kill people just like a GP can.
Again, Sam, you demonstrate a complete inability to comprehend what has been written. I have nowhere questioned whether Freeman has "enough" legal protection. I have questioned your wholly baseless assumptions, particularly that whatever protection he has covers a QC at a tribunal.samhocking said:Why are you so passionate about Freeman not having enough legal protection? His MDU is one thing, his indemnity policy will include legal cover fmk. Who do you think pays your legal costs if you killed someone driving your car? You or your policy?
fmk_RoI said:Again, Sam, you demonstrate a complete inability to comprehend what has been written. I have nowhere questioned whether Freeman has "enough" legal protection. I have questioned your wholly baseless assumptions, particularly that whatever protection he has covers a QC at a tribunal.samhocking said:Why are you so passionate about Freeman not having enough legal protection? His MDU is one thing, his indemnity policy will include legal cover fmk. Who do you think pays your legal costs if you killed someone driving your car? You or your policy?
fmk_RoI said:Again, Sam, you demonstrate a complete inability to comprehend what has been written. I have nowhere questioned whether Freeman has "enough" legal protection. I have questioned your wholly baseless assumptions, particularly that whatever protection he has covers a QC at a tribunal.samhocking said:Why are you so passionate about Freeman not having enough legal protection? His MDU is one thing, his indemnity policy will include legal cover fmk. Who do you think pays your legal costs if you killed someone driving your car? You or your policy?