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Would be interesting how other Team Doctors would fair up to that list of requirements for medical treatment in their teams. I doubt there would be enough hours in the day to even achieve half of what GMC's guidance ask for. At least we know none of this is about keeping his licence though.
er........we'll have got to this point because Freeman bought PEDS for his cycling team, lied about, requested others lie about and lied to UKAD about it (plus of course all the other charges he's admitted to).....but you know that 
I miss the good old days when the radical wing of BC's cheer leading squad cheered their own side on, "ra! ra! ra! we're ethically pure! ain't no dirt on us!". Here in the Upside Down, it seems, all they do is throw mud and shout and scream that everyone else is just as bad, so it's a level playing field, none of this really matters, nothing to see here, move along now, move along.er........we'll have got to this point because Freeman bought PEDS for his cycling team, lied about, requested others lie about and lied to UKAD about it (plus of course all the other charges he's admitted to).....but you know that
Too bad that "other teams" aren't under the pump right now. BC and Sky/Ineos and their cronies have been telling us all about how they are as pure as the driven snow and nothing like the evil continental teams since their inception.
Gonna be a few cheap jerseys and pinarellos for sale soon...
Who said that is preferred? The legal avenue is the only one available right now unless someone like Sutton or a former rider (such as Henderson) goes nuclear.
And the GMC case is not about doping. Many here may think it is, would certainly like to believe it is, but it is not. It's about the man's fitness to practice. A by-product of it may - may - lead UKAD to pursuing a doping case but doping is not the issue here.
Oh I know that. But as all the allegations involve non-athletes I'm not sure what UKAD pursue. So anyone getting excited that this will have much direct relevance on cycling is likely to be disappointed. Middle aged men wanting to hold back ageing is hardly Balco.
er........we'll have got to this point because Freeman bought PEDS for his cycling team, lied about, requested others lie about and lied to UKAD about it (plus of course all the other charges he's admitted to).....but you know that
Until we hear what DCMS have omitted from the report re. Sutton's credibility and what Lawton & Daily Mail's lawyers have distorted re. Jiffy Bag story that O'Rourke says will reveal Sutton's credibility, I think it's too early to decide if the lies signify much yet. A man telling lies to protect his GP licence & job would look the same as a man lying because of being bullied and would look the same as a man doping athletes to the media. Too early to make judgement. Today has at least exposed various things are not simply internal to BC & Sky, but appears to extend to the media and parliament and always Sutton is involved in it.
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What I can't figure out is why in gods name he got it delivered to the velodrome and not a P.O. box or something.
Was it hubris, did members of British cycling like many before get so successful that they felt invincible?
Was it hubris, did members of British cycling like many before get so successful that they felt invincible?
Alternatively if it wasn't for doping and just for treating a middle-aged man, why would you think to hide it?
Because it's still sending testosterone to a sports training centre. If it's for Sutton which he denied by the way why not send it to his house.
For now. What is all the inappropriate secrecy for? None of these guys can lie straight in bed. There is going to be a lot more to this.
I don;t image suppliers will just send testosterone to any old address. And as for Sutton denying it, well he would say that wouldn't he.
The panel are now suggesting that Freeman knowingly ordered the T for someone else to administer to riders , hence the big dispute with Sutton
Are you joking. Loads of people who are not sports organisations get drugs sent to them. Any of us could go online right now and get Viagra and whatnot sent to us
Probably worth stating any sports doctor will be ordering substances that will be prohibited for certain athletes continuously (that's why they are there afterall, to prescribe medication legally). Take a typical team of 20-30 riders (more in BC, closer to 100 riders he's looking after). You'll have some injured maybe requiring IA Cortisone medically from hospital/surgery. You might have riders requiring a prohibited substance under TUE, you might have a member of staff on the road who busted his arm falling down hotel stairs and needs prohibited painkillers etc etc. Clearly all of that is going to come from a central location via the doctors prescription and is going to be ordered from and delivered where he works. WADA don't prevent medical supplies that are prohibited from being ordered and stored, so long as they are not intended to dope an athlete outside WADA code.
Obviously the charges so far by MPTS only involve what they call non-athlete Persons A,B & C and mostly one of poor GP-related admin, lack of a medical management policy and not informing A, B & C'sr GPs of prescribed treatment. The lies re. Testosterone order/delivery are really all still dependent on what is still yet to be determined. If this ends up Sutton bullied Freeman to the point Freeman was lying to cover for Sutton to obtain Testosterone for either himself or an athlete through Freemans prescription rights, this could all end a very different outcome where in terms of athletes there is nothing on Freeman and the sum of it, is primarily record keeping and admin of 3 people for what has taken years to get to the bottom of.
Obviously the charges so far by MPTS only involve what they call non-athlete Persons A,B & C and mostly one of poor GP-related admin, lack of a medical management policy and not informing A, B & C'sr GPs of prescribed treatment. The lies re. Testosterone order/delivery are really all still dependent on what is still yet to be determined. If this ends up Sutton bullied Freeman to the point Freeman was lying to cover for Sutton to obtain Testosterone for either himself or an athlete through Freemans prescription rights, this could all end a very different outcome where in terms of athletes there is nothing on Freeman and the sum of it, is primarily record keeping and admin of 3 people for what has taken years to get to the bottom of.
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Do you have an example? Can you show me a website that I (not a doctor or pharmacist) can order Testogel to be delivered to any UK address,
Here's a place you can buy it: https://www.ukmeds.co.uk/testogel-sachets
Note the disclaimers that says a prescriber needs to be involved. The prescriber can send it to the address, a wholesaler can't.
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To both, it's ostensibly about a doc and his ability to practice but its all about doping and its all about athletes........if it wasn't there really would be nothing to see here...but there is something to see...lie after lie after lie and yesterday...despite his role (I'll forget his and others hype) his QC trying to pass him off as a "jobbing GP". Lies and spin......now then........what was happening in the background that these lies and spin might be trying to hide?? two specific UK riders getting really, really skinny and turning from crap into brilliant with resultant flowing of millions of £s and other UK riders gaining and shedding weight at the drop of a hat...........or some ageing bloke worrried about his masculinity.........
PS anyone made the G&T joke yet?????
Of course Sam...I'm not quite sure you've thought things through...as I'm sure your loyalties lie with BC/SKY and not Freeman per se...........perhaps Freeman might start looking like the vulnerable and bullied doc...however the far more serious and wider question then arises about why a cycling coach with no medical qualifications might want T?? Sutton is, in a way, one step closer to the athletes (and SDB) than the doc and hence a more serious indictment on the riders .....and of course you seem to continue to labour under the illusion that poor record keeping was poor admin....it was policy...that's how you hide in plain sight....keep up the good work though...it's a good read
Are Freeman and his team so bad that they would try to use Suttons alleged ED as a defense?
Yeah, probably. Sky/Ineos/BC seems to come up with the most ridiculous arguments when trying to defend themselves. But it's been working so far. As the bus rolls over Freeman.
Yeah, probably. Sky/Ineos/BC seems to come up with the most ridiculous arguments when trying to defend themselves. But it's been working so far. As the bus rolls over Freeman.
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