CNF Clinic Award: Most Suspicious Performance of 2013

[Escarabajo]

To be fair, Lucho would dreamed of those numbers. Not judging, just mentioning.

He could have been peaking for the third week, like Rodriguez.

My estimation shows lower numbers. And I believe that Quintana is a better talent than Lucho. IMHO.

 

[Big Doopie]

Voted Horner.

But clentadoppucci's perf at the TDF 2nd itt was also at the top of my list. The guy had promised everyone he would be there for the third week after the usual rest day refill (how else would he know this months in advance? What annoys me most about him is how he takes all the fans for freakin idiots)

And he delivered. Rebounding amazingly from a disastrous ventoux where he was unable to hold on to nieve's wheel...

Problem was, he forgot that he can no longer dope to the extent he had done in winning every other race of his career. The rest day boost gave him only a 2-3 day boost and by weeks end he was back to being only moderately doped and even clean rookie talansky reeled him in and dropped his sorry fraudulent a$$ on the last mtf - giving us an idea of his true lack of natural talent.

 

[The Hitch]

Voted Horner.

But clentadoppucci's perf at the TDF 2nd itt was also at the top of my list. The guy had promised everyone he would be there for the third week after the usual rest day refill (how else would he know this months in advance? What annoys me most about him is how he takes all the fans for freakin idiots)

And he delivered. Rebounding amazingly from a disastrous ventoux where he was unable to hold on to nieve's wheel...

Problem was, he forgot that he can no longer dope to the extent he had done in winning every other race of his career. The rest day boost gave him only a 2-3 day boost and by weeks end he was back to being only moderately doped and even clean rookie talansky reeled him in and dropped his sorry fraudulent a$$ on the last mtf - giving us an idea of his true lack of natural talent.

Wow, so you actually do believe in sky.

Makes a lot of the comments you have made about Nibali in the past and the vote for Horner now, very hypocritical.

 

[Digger]

Wow, so you actually do believe in sky.

Makes a lot of the comments you have made about Nibali in the past and the vote for Horner now, very hypocritical.

So many of the sky fans who attack me have no issue going after Horner in particular...which is fine...but why Horner and not Froome? They say there is no evidence against Froome...but have no issues with evidence when it comes to Horner.

 

[sniper]

Froome had more in the tank, that was obvious.

pretty much.
mutant excelleration on the ventoux and still time to do smalltalk with brailsford.
4 minutes up on quintana going into the 3rd week.
deliberately handing 2nd itt victory to martin.
froome was never really tested.
had time to hand out presents left and right.
like in 2012, he had a lot of extra gas in the tank.

 

[Clausfarre]

Had to choose Horner because his quite ridiculous performance was a surprise. I knew Froome would be 'entertaining' well in advance.

 

[sniper]

Had to choose Horner because his quite ridiculous performance was a surprise. I knew Froome would be 'entertaining' well in advance.

i think horner was inspired by sky's performance.
seeing froome/wiggins beat the passport in 2011 through to 2013, he thought why not me.

i genuinely think, following contador's positive, there was a window where topgear riders were thinking twice before juicing up heavily.
sky closed that window.

 

[spalco]

it's funny and indeed ridiculously suspect how Sky have been able to really control the field two years in a row.
2012 they put Wiggo forward as their man, and indeed he goes on to dominate with total sovereignty. Next year they announce the coming of Chris, again well in advance, and indeed Chris goes on to dominate with complete sovereignty, whilst Wiggo completely fades.

Sky didn't control anything in the Tour, they simply had the strongest man in the peloton in their team. Froome would have probably won the race in any other team as well.

 

[peloton]

Froome at the Tour, even Horner's ridiculous ride at Vuelta comes close.

 

[sniper]

Sky didn't control anything in the Tour, they simply had the strongest man in the peloton in their team. Froome would have probably won the race in any other team as well.

those are bold statements.
the sky train dominated until froome was safely in yellow.
and to say froome would've been able to dope as sophisticatedly in a different team is a risky statement as well.
sky has gone to some length to guarantee no positives.
leinders, kerrison, powerpoint presentations at ASO, you name it.

 

[Clausfarre]

those are bold statements.
the sky train dominated until froome was safely in yellow.
and to say froome would've been able to dope as sophisticatedly in a different team is a risky statement as well.
sky has gone to some length to guarantee no positives.
leinders, kerrison, powerpoint presentations at ASO, you name it.

Yes. It takes a village to raise a dawg.

 

[hfer07]

IMO The prize would have been awarded easily to the Sky duo, until I made my yearly video review and realized I still cannot rationalize the ridiculous way Mr. Chris Horner literally "out of the saddle'd" the Vuelta title........ I mean..... I'm lost for words to describe it....

 

[Dazed and Confused]

IMO The prize would have been awarded easily to the Sky duo, until I made my yearly video review and realized I still cannot rationalize the ridiculous way Mr. Chris Horner literally "out of the saddle'd" the Vuelta title........ I mean..... I'm lost for words to describe it....

Older men with dodgy knees can benefit from standing on the pedals.....

 

[Big Doopie]

Wow, so you actually do believe in sky.

Makes a lot of the comments you have made about Nibali in the past and the vote for Horner now, very hypocritical.

wrong again. (but nice try desperately misrepresenting what i posted. )

seems to be a habit with you unfortunately.

i am hopeful, however, you might be able to turn it around in the new year. good luck with that.

clentadoppucci, like valverde and scarponi, is the greatest unrepentant "business as usual" doping malignant infection stopping cycling from moving forward (just as armstrong was before he was finally punished). once he/they get lifetime bans (as they should have done years ago) we can then go after the next group. but as long as they are in cycling, talking of real hope is pointless.

 

[Big Doopie]

i genuinely think, following contador's positive, there was a window where topgear riders were thinking twice before juicing up heavily.

but then contador came back, unrepentant, business as usual, complaining that he had been wronged.

changed that for you

 

[hrotha]

changed that for you

You don't need to be repentant to think "Gee, maybe they're taking a tougher stance on doping and have developed better methods. Better be conservative for a while."

 

[hfer07]

Older men with dodgy knees can benefit from standing on the pedals.....

wow- so by that rationale I'm hopeful to get older & be able to stand on the pedals for 5 minutes while climbing

 

[the sceptic]

oh look big troll is here again to spew hate against Contador.

Maybe Contador stopped doping too, you know like Hesjedal? or maybe theyre both unrepentant dopers?

Struggling to see the logic in Contador being an evil doper due to his 0.0000000000001% clen, whereas Hesjedal was just a victim of the dark era and stopped doping in 2003.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

wow- so by that rationale I'm hopeful to get older & be able to stand on the pedals for 5 minutes while climbing

see what we have here is a new paradigm...

Froome, using a new aerodynamic technique, is able to accelerate harder than anybody else by staying in the saddle on the climbs and

Horner, using a prolonged gravity force, is able to drop everybody while staying upright for the entire climb.

Its new science against the rest of the amateurs.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

That is a no brainer.

Horner!

By a wide margin (DiLuca for example looked like Kindergarten style in comparison, even LA in his "best" times can´t come close to this).

The most outright blatant cheating I've ever seen, in any olympic sport, anywhere in the world, in my whole life.
Unprecedented how a 42 year old over-the-hill injured rider rode away on one leg, always out of the saddle, from his young talented favoured competitors*.

Horner seriously took the p!ss out of all of us with his Vuelta performances not only in one, but every mountain stage.
The biggest mutant performance of the past 150 years in cycling.
A complete Vuelta annihilation. It was no easy task given the past of the many many doped and suspiciouss Vuelta performances.

* = What makes Horner even more sickening are the facts, (a) he was a failure in a 2nd tier team his first time around in europe. He was so bad he simply didn´t got a new contract when reaching his peak age. And now in grandpa age, he was breaking doping records of the darkest cycling era with ease.
(b) After the AC positive, there was a small window where riders may have thought twice before doping big time again. Now Horner showed every young rider their only chance is to cheat again. Basically he destroyed a whole promising young generation. He single-handedly closed the window.
His final stunt was to led testers look like fools, yet everybody knows he was hiding from them. He spat everyone in the face. The most disgusting person in cycling. LA was/is an angel in comparison.

 

[The Hitch]

clentadoppucci, like valverde and scarponi, is the greatest unrepentant "business as usual" doping malignant infection stopping cycling from moving forward (just as armstrong was before he was finally punished). once he/they get lifetime bans (as they should have done years ago) we can then go after the next group. but as long as they are in cycling, talking of real hope is pointless.

Ok. Then why did you mention Horner (and Nibali)



I think you are confusing even yourself with this logic. Take a step back and try again

 

[jens_attacks]

That is a no brainer.

Horner!

By a wide margin (DiLuca for example looked like Kindergarten style in comparison, even LA in his "best" times can´t come close to this).

The most outright blatant cheating I've ever seen, in any olympic sport, anywhere in the world, in my whole life.
Unprecedented how a 42 year old over-the-hill injured rider rode away on one leg, always out of the saddle, from his young talented favoured competitors*.

Horner seriously took the p!ss out of all of us with his Vuelta performances not only in one, but every mountain stage.
The biggest mutant performance of the past 150 years in cycling.
A complete Vuelta annihilation. It was no easy task given the past of the many many doped and suspiciouss Vuelta performances.

* = What makes Horner even more sickening are the facts, (a) he was a failure in a 2nd tier team his first time around in europe. He was so bad he simply didn´t got a new contract when reaching his peak age. And now in grandpa age, he was breaking doping records of the darkest cycling era with ease.
(b) After the AC positive, there was a small window where riders may have thought twice before doping big time again. Now Horner showed every young rider their only chance is to cheat again. Basically he destroyed a whole promising young generation. He single-handedly closed the window.
His final stunt was to led testers look like fools, yet everybody knows he was hiding from them. He spat everyone in the face. The most disgusting person in cycling. LA was/is an angel in comparison.

after this post


i luv papy even more!

 

[BroDeal]

(b) After the AC positive, there was a small window where riders may have thought twice before doping big time again. Now Horner showed every young rider their only chance is to cheat again. Basically he destroyed a whole promising young generation. He single-handedly closed the window.
His final stunt was to led testers look like fools, yet everybody knows he was hiding from them. He spat everyone in the face. The most disgusting person in cycling. LA was/is an angel in comparison.

You seem to have forgotten the 2011 Vuelta. Horner was just following Sky. Last year, after the ludicrous performance of Sky, there were those here who said other riders would follow Sky's example and go back to doping full bore. We were right. Don't try to blame this on Horner and those who are just trying to keep up with the nationwide doping program of the Brits.

BTW, your continual Jihad against Horner to the exclusion of all others is getting tiresome.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

after this post


i luv papy even more!

I am sorry for you. You are on the below 5% group. Just a misfit with a sorry avatar...

 

[The Hitch]

After the AC positive, there was a small window where riders may have thought twice before doping big time again. Now Horner showed every young rider their only chance is to cheat again. Basically he destroyed a whole promising young generation. He single-handedly closed the window.

lol, wow

I mean I thought Horner was bad and didn't like him that much when I thought he was doping.
But now that you tell me that cycling was 100% clean from 2010 until the 2013 Vuelta and the evil lord Horner single handidly forced everyone from here on out to dope, including all those innocent young riders ( i mean even Lance was clean when he won the worlds at age 23 right?), destroying all those lives, now I really don't like him.