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No way, talking up Cobo for to that game was my only meaningful contribution to society.The Hitch said:Might have to overturn the inaugural, 2011 Cq game results
Can't retrospectively test for motors :Neutral:topcat said:When is Bauke Mollema going to be presented with th 2011 vuelta?
That’s some leap of faith to claim Mollema is cleantopcat said:I never really liked Mollema. But I feel for him now. He was robbed of that Vuelta. And if he's awarded it, it will mean nothing. This is all bullshi*
Thanks for admitting that the trio took more dope than poor old Bauke. There's a chance Mollema is clean because he's woeful and he might not risk it knowing he couldn't afford a proper legal defence.rick james said:That’s some leap of faith to claim Mollema is cleantopcat said:I never really liked Mollema. But I feel for him now. He was robbed of that Vuelta. And if he's awarded it, it will mean nothing. This is all bullshi*
Carlos Arribas is now saying the case was opened in 2014:fmk_RoI said:Case appears to have started in 2015
The case was opened still earlier, dear Daniel. I got now confirmation that Cobo received the first letter from the UCI telling himg of suspicious parameters in August 2014, when he was riding in Turkish team Torku Sekerspor. In 2015 he received the first proposal of sanction
Relatively.King Boonen said:Wish I was as woeful on the bike as Bauke is...
You're too late to the party, young padawan! :lol:topcat said:Relatively.King Boonen said:Wish I was as woeful on the bike as Bauke is...
Has anyone ever predicted he'd win a gt?
Yeah, I don't get the outrage as well. Neither now, nor back then. Cobo was always considered a big talent to potentially shine in the Grand Tours. Especially after his impressive 2007 Tour of the Basque Country victory! It wasn't until 2008 and the departure of the Saunier Duval Tour de France team in wake of Ricco's and later Piepoli's Cera positives, that one figured out that Cobo might be a bit more juiced-up than others. Something which in fact never has been proven, because of his mental health issues. His 2009 Vuelta was at the same time both underwhelming for his own promises and pretty decent for a bobtailed Fuji-Servetto squad. In 2010 he obviously suffered from depression etc as Libertine Seguros rightfully stated dozens of times.movingtarget said:If Cobo was having mental health issues, I doubt that this will help much.
Thanks for calling me young. I'm a junior member who watched Hinault strut his stuff. I stopped watching cycling for the Lance era. Vuelta 2011 is tgbm's only hope.Squire said:You're too late to the party, young padawan! :lol:topcat said:Relatively.King Boonen said:Wish I was as woeful on the bike as Bauke is...
Has anyone ever predicted he'd win a gt?
But you sure must have heard of the legend of TGBM?
Well, there wasn't much to disqualify him from in 2010.roundabout said:DQ from 2009 and 2011 Vueltas only
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/clean-sport-documents/adrv/2019-02-12-sanction-adrv-eng-2-0.pdf?sfvrsn=3ab4874a_108
Why he isn't disqualified from Burgos 2011 for example?roundabout said:DQ from 2009 and 2011 Vueltas only
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/clean-sport-documents/adrv/2019-02-12-sanction-adrv-eng-2-0.pdf?sfvrsn=3ab4874a_108
Menchov's results in the Tour got cancelled from 2009 to 2012 (including a 3rd/2nd in 2010), but he weirdly got to keep his Giro and Vuelta results from 2011Forever The Best said:Why he isn't disqualified from Burgos 2011 for example?roundabout said:DQ from 2009 and 2011 Vueltas only
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/clean-sport-documents/adrv/2019-02-12-sanction-adrv-eng-2-0.pdf?sfvrsn=3ab4874a_108
I remember a similar case with Menchov as well, he was disqualified from some races but got to keep his important results if I remember right.
Gung Ho Gun said:Menchov's results in the Tour got cancelled from 2009 to 2012 (including a 3rd/2nd in 2010), but he weirdly got to keep his Giro and Vuelta results from 2011Forever The Best said:Why he isn't disqualified from Burgos 2011 for example?roundabout said:DQ from 2009 and 2011 Vueltas only
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/clean-sport-documents/adrv/2019-02-12-sanction-adrv-eng-2-0.pdf?sfvrsn=3ab4874a_108
I remember a similar case with Menchov as well, he was disqualified from some races but got to keep his important results if I remember right.
So he moves up to 4th following Cobo's suspension
Forever The Best said:Why he isn't disqualified from Burgos 2011 for example?roundabout said:DQ from 2009 and 2011 Vueltas only
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/clean-sport-documents/adrv/2019-02-12-sanction-adrv-eng-2-0.pdf?sfvrsn=3ab4874a_108
I remember a similar case with Menchov as well, he was disqualified from some races but got to keep his important results if I remember right.
Well, now it's really getting comical!roundabout said:DQ from 2009 and 2011 Vueltas only
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/clean-sport-documents/adrv/2019-02-12-sanction-adrv-eng-2-0.pdf?sfvrsn=3ab4874a_108
That may explain, thanks.roundabout said:Forever The Best said:Why he isn't disqualified from Burgos 2011 for example?roundabout said:DQ from 2009 and 2011 Vueltas only
https://www.uci.org/docs/default-source/clean-sport-documents/adrv/2019-02-12-sanction-adrv-eng-2-0.pdf?sfvrsn=3ab4874a_108
I remember a similar case with Menchov as well, he was disqualified from some races but got to keep his important results if I remember right.
I don't know whether he was blood tested during Burgos