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Valv.Piti

Valv.Piti

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staubsauger said:
Gilbert must be the best expert Eurosport ever had. At least the best since Virenque in France. Phil's observations and intakes are always spot on!

Pleasure to have him around
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Didn't watch on ES, but the races I have watched the going back to Phil was always a letdown, not necessarily cause he was bad, he just didn't really add anything to the race cause of where he was watching
 
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staubsauger said:
Gilbert must be the best expert Eurosport ever had. At least the best since Virenque in France. Phil's observations and intakes are always spot on!

Pleasure to have him around
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I totally agree. And he does it all from the back of a motorbike just to add to the multitasking.

The most cringeworthy interaction on Eurosport was Kirby "interviewing/welcoming" Gilbert on his arrival at the channel, replete with obscure vocabulary and oblique references to English culture that even few Brits could have followed. It was painful to listen to. And I find Kirby quite endearing! In fact, this is a pattern I have seen before. Where Eurosport allow Kirby to interact with top sportspeople, he seems to behave oddly. It is not surprising that he is rarely allowed to interview riders. I think of him as an accomplished continuity commentator "filling the gaps" with anecdotes about geology or cloud formation.
 
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wirral said:
I totally agree. And he does it all from the back of a motorbike just to add to the multitasking.

The most cringeworthy interaction on Eurosport was Kirby "interviewing/welcoming" Gilbert on his arrival at the channel, replete with obscure vocabulary and oblique references to English culture that even few Brits could have followed. It was painful to listen to. And I find Kirby quite endearing! In fact, this is a pattern I have seen before. Where Eurosport allow Kirby to interact with top sportspeople, he seems to behave oddly. It is not surprising that he is rarely allowed to interview riders. I think of him as an accomplished continuity commentator "filling the gaps" with anecdotes about geology or cloud formation.
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Oh god as a professional geologist please don't talk about geology carlton.
 
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An update with the next few weeks' racing included:

British Eurosport /GCN commentary pairings season 2023 (men's elite):

(WT=World Tour; PS=Pro Series, ET=Europe Tour, AT=Asia Tour)

WT: Tour Down Under (live from 17/1): Cox & Blythe
PS: Vuelta a San Juan (live from 22/1): Kirby & Smith
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Calvia (live on 25/1): Hatch & Blythe
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Port D'Alcudia (live on 26/1): Hatch & Blythe
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Port D'Andratz (live on 27/1): Hatch & Blythe
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Serra de Tramuntana (live on 28/1): Hatch & Smith
WT: Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race (live on 29/1): Keenan, McEwen & Liggett (Host Broadcaster package)
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Palma (live on 29/1): Hatch & Smith
ET: Grand Prix Cycliste La Marseillaise (live on 29/1): Been & Stephens
AT: Saudi Tour (live from 30/1): Cox & McEwen
PS: Volta a La Comunitat Valenciana (live from 1/2): Hatch & Smith
ET: Vuelta Ciclista Murcia (live on 11/2): Been & Smith
ET: Figuera Champions Classic (live on 12/2): Cox & Ian Field
PS: Clasica de Almeria (live on 12/2): Been & Smith
ET: Clasica Jaen Paraiso Interior (live on 13/2): Been & Smith
PS: Volta ao Algarve (live from 15/2): Hatch & Stephens (stages 1-3), Blyth (stages 4-5)
PS: Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol (live from 15/2): Cox & Smith
ET: Tour des Alpes-Maritimes et du Var (live from 17/2): Been & Backstedt
WT: UAE Tour (live from 20/2): Kirby & Smith
ET: Gran Camino (live from 23/2): Cox & Stephens (stages 1-2, 4), Field (stage 3)
ET: Faun-Ardeche Classic (live on 25/2): Been & Walker
WT: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad (live on 25/2): Stephens, Lloyd & Blythe
PS: Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne (live on 26/2): Hatch & Blythe
ET: Faun Drome Classic (live on 26/2): Been & Walker
ET: Le Samyn (live on 28/2): Been & Walker
WT: Strade Bianche (live on 4/3): Hatch, Lloyd & Blythe
ET: Grote Prijs Jean-Pierre Monsere (live on 5/3): Cox & Backstedt
WT: Paris-Nice (live from 5/3): Hatch & Kelly
WT: Tirreno-Adriatico (live from 6/3) : Kirby & McEwen
ET: Albert Achterhes Profronde van Drenthe (live from 12/3): Been (solo)
PS: Danilith Nokere Koerse (live on 15/3): Been & Christmas
PS: Milano-Torino (live on 15/3): Hatch & Smith
PS: Grand Prix de Denain - Porte du Hainaut (live on 16/3): Been & Smith
ET: Bredene Koksidje Classic (live on 18/3): Been & Smith
WT: Milano-Sanremo (live on 18/3): Hatch, Kirby, McEwen, Lloyd & Blythe
ET: Cholet Pays De La Loire (live on 19/3): tbc
WT: Volta Ciclista a Catalunya (live from 20/3): Kirby & Smith
WT: Classic Brugge-De Panne (live on 22/3): Cox & McEwen
WT: E3 Saxo Classic (live on 24/3): Hatch & Blythe
WT: Gent-Wevelgem (live on 26/3): Cox & Blythe
ET: La Roue Tourangelle (live on 26/3): Been & Stephens
WT: Dwars Door Vlaanderen (live on 29/3): Stephens & Lloyd
ET: Volta Limburg Classic (live on 1/4): Been & Stephens
PS: Gran Premio Miguel Indurain (live on 1/4): Walker & Field
WT: Ronde Van Vlaanderen (live on 2/4): Kirby, Lloyd, Kelly & Blythe
WT: Itzulia Basque Country (live from 3/4): Kirby & Smith
PS: Scheldeprijs (live on 5/4): Cox & McEwen
WT: Paris-Roubaix (live on 9/4): Hatch, Lloyd, McEwen & Blyth
ET: Giro di Sicilia (live from 11/4): Been & Smith
PS: De Brabantse Pijl (live on 12/4): Kirby & Lloyd
ET: Classic Grand Besancon Doubs (live on 14/4): Cox & Blythe
ET: Tour du Jura Cycliste (live on 15/4): Cox & Blythe
WT: Amstel Gold Race (live on 16/4): Kirby & Smith
PS: Tour of the Alps (live from 17/4): Hatch & Blythe
WT: La Fleche Wallone (live on 19/4): Cox & Stephens
WT: Liege-Bastogne-Liege (live on 23/4): Hatch & Blythe
WT: Tour de Romandie (live from 25/4): Stephens & Roche
WT: Echborn-Frankfurt (live on 1/5): Cox & Smith
WT: Giro d'Italia (live from 6/5): Hatch, Lloyd, Kelly, Blythe & McEwen
PS: GP du Morbihan (live on 6/5): Cox & Field
PS: Tro Bro Leon (live on 7/5): Cox & Field
PS: Tour de Hongrie (live from 10/5): Kirby & Smith
PS: 4 Jours de Dunkerque: Cox & Smith
Veenendaal Classic (live on 20/5): Been & Field
Antwerp Port Epic (live on 21/5): Been & Field
Tour de Norway (live from 26/5): Been & York
Boucle de la Mayenne (live from 26/5): Cox & Field
Van Merksteijn Fences Classic (live on 27/5): Kirby & Jens Dekker
Ronde van Limburg (live on 29/5): Marty MacDonald & Dekker
Mercan Tour Classic Alpes-Maritimes (live on 30/5): Been & Smith
Brussels Cycling Classic (live on 4/6): Cox & McEwen
Criterium du Dauphine (live from 4/6) Kirby & Smith
ZLM Tour (live from 7/6): Cox & McEwen
Dwars Door Het Hageland (live on 10/6): Walker & Field
Tour de Suisse (live from 11/6): Hatch & Jip van den Bos
Elfstedenronde Brugge (live on 11/6): tbc
Tour of Slovenia (live from 14/6): tbc
La Route de Occitanie (live from 15/6): tbc
Baloise Belgium Tour (live from 15/6 stage 2-5): tbc
French ITT Championships (live on 22/6): tbc
Italian Road Championships (live on 24/6); tbc
Spanish Road Championships (live on 25/6): tbc
French Road Championships (live on 25/6): tbc
British Road Championships (live on 25/6): tbc
Tour de France (live from 1/7): tbc
Clasica San Sebastian (live on 29/7): tbc
Circuito De Getxo (live on 30/7): tbc
 
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Rackham

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argyllflyer said:
An update with the next few weeks' racing included:

British Eurosport /GCN commentary pairings season 2023 (men's elite):

(WT=World Tour; PS=Pro Series, ET=Europe Tour, AT=Asia Tour)

WT: Tour Down Under (live from 17/1): Cox & Blythe
PS: Vuelta a San Juan (live from 22/1): Kirby & Smith
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Calvia (live on 25/1): Hatch & Blythe
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Port D'Alcudia (live on 26/1): Hatch & Blythe
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Port D'Andratz (live on 27/1): Hatch & Blythe
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Serra de Tramuntana (live on 28/1): Hatch & Smith
WT: Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race (live on 29/1): Keenan, McEwen & Liggett (Host Broadcaster package)
ET: Challenge Mallorca: Trofeo Palma (live on 29/1): Hatch & Smith
ET: Grand Prix Cycliste La Marseillaise (live on 29/1): Been & Stephens
AT: Saudi Tour (live from 30/1): Cox & McEwen
PS: Volta a La Comunitat Valenciana (live from 1/2): Hatch & Smith
ET: Vuelta Ciclista Murcia (live on 11/2): Been & Smith
ET: Figuera Champions Classic (live on 12/2): Cox & Ian Field
PS: Clasica de Almeria (live on 12/2): Been & Smith
ET: Clasica Jaen Paraiso Interior (live on 13/2): Been & Smith
PS: Volta ao Algarve (live from 15/2): Hatch & Stephens (stages 1-3), Blyth (stages 4-5)
PS: Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol (live from 15/2): Cox & Smith
ET: Tour des Alpes-Maritimes et du Var (live from 17/2): Been & Backstedt
WT: UAE Tour (live from 20/2): Kirby & Smith
ET: Gran Camino (live from 23/2): Cox & Stephens (stages 1-2, 4), Field (stage 3)
ET: Faun-Ardeche Classic (live on 25/2): Been & Walker
WT: Omloop Het Nieuwsblad (live on 25/2): Stephens, Lloyd & Blythe
PS: Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne (live on 26/2): Hatch & Blythe
ET: Faun Drome Classic (live on 26/2): Been & Walker
ET: Le Samyn (live on 28/2): Been & Walker
WT: Strade Bianche (live on 4/3): Hatch, Lloyd & Blythe
ET: Grote Prijs Jean-Pierre Monsere (live on 5/3): Cox & Backstedt
WT: Paris-Nice (live from 5/3): Hatch & Kelly
WT: Tirreno-Adriatico (live from 6/3) : Kirby & McEwen
ET: Albert Achterhes Profronde van Drenthe (live from 12/3): Been (solo)
PS: Danilith Nokere Koerse (live on 15/3): Been & Christmas
PS: Milano-Torino (live on 15/3): Hatch & Smith
PS: Grand Prix de Denain - Porte du Hainaut (live on 16/3): Been & Smith
ET: Bredene Koksidje Classic (live on 18/3): Been & Smith
WT: Milano-Sanremo (live on 18/3): Hatch, Kirby, McEwen, Lloyd & Blythe
ET: Cholet Pays De La Loire (live on 19/3): tbc
WT: Volta Ciclista a Catalunya (live from 20/3): Kirby & Smith
WT: Classic Brugge-De Panne (live on 22/3): Cox & McEwen
WT: E3 Saxo Classic (live on 24/3): Hatch & Blythe
WT: Gent-Wevelgem (live on 26/3): Cox & Blythe
ET: La Roue Tourangelle (live on 26/3): Been & Stephens
WT: Dwars Door Vlaanderen (live on 29/3): Stephens & Lloyd
ET: Volta Limburg Classic (live on 1/4): Been & Stephens
PS: Gran Premio Miguel Indurain (live on 1/4): Walker & Field
WT: Ronde Van Vlaanderen (live on 2/4): Kirby, Lloyd, Kelly & Blythe
WT: Itzulia Basque Country (live from 3/4): Kirby & Smith
PS: Scheldeprijs (live on 5/4): Cox & McEwen
WT: Paris-Roubaix (live on 9/4): Hatch, Lloyd, McEwen & Blyth
ET: Giro di Sicilia (live from 11/4): tbc
PS: De Brabantse Pijl (live on 12/4): tbc
ET: Classic Grand Besancon Doubs (live on 14/4): tbc
ET: Tour du Jura Cycliste (live on 15/4): tbc
WT: Amstel Gold Race (live on 16/4): tbc
PS: Tour of the Alps (live from 17/4): tbc
WT: La Fleche Wallone (live on 19/4): tbc
WT: Liege-Bastogne-Liege (live on 23/4): tbc
WT: Tour de Romandie (live from 25/4): tbc
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The way I read this is it's listing all the commentary pairings we've had so far... whilst those upcoming races are all 'tbc'.

Maybe Eurosport fired everyone.
 
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Carlton at his annoying worse yesterday. Brabantse Pijl a 1.1 midweek race paired with Dan equals maximum flippant Carlton. I don't want to be continually mean to him as I'm in no doubt he is a great guy in real life, however after a long day at work I just want to catch up on the race and not cringe every 15 seconds.

Carlton bingo.... in the 5 minutes i watched I heard a "chosen son" and a "re-gather themselves". Also he went into a verbose monologue about the local topography around Overijse haha.
 
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Abedfo said:
Carlton at his annoying worse yesterday. Brabantse Pijl a 1.1 midweek race paired with Dan equals maximum flippant Carlton. I don't want to be continually mean to him as I'm in no doubt he is a great guy in real life, however after a long day at work I just want to catch up on the race and not cringe every 15 seconds.

Carlton bingo.... in the 5 minutes i watched I heard a "chosen son" and a "re-gather themselves". Also he went into a verbose monologue about the local topography around Overijse haha.
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always gets a bit hyper when he catches a glimpse of Si Clarke
 
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MartinGT said:
Kirby was embarrassing when the women's podium was up. Basically couldn't pronounce Shirin van Anrooij's name correctly and just mumbled it.
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Kirby is just embarrassing full stop!

I get the CK show is subjective, some love it, some hate it, but in BP and again in Amstel today he reached new levels of incompetence in terms of reporting on riders, teams and race situations. He is totally clueless, so much so that Dan Lloyd had to correct him several times on air in BP.

Destroys the enjoyment of a race for me every single time.
 
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Orbit501 said:
Kirby is just embarrassing full stop!

I get the CK show is subjective, some love it, some hate it, but in BP and again in Amstel today he reached new levels of incompetence in terms of reporting on riders, teams and race situations. He is totally clueless, so much so that Dan Lloyd had to correct him several times on air in BP.

Destroys the enjoyment of a race for me every single time.
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Absolutely, wish there was some option that the commentary could mute every time he speaks, yet we could still hear co-commentator. I watched on mute again today. Just like Flanders and I more or less didn't watch Pais Vasco because of him. Some commentators are just bad, Kirby is the double threat of bad and super annoying. Kirby should be on the Jose Been schedule.
 
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Orbit501 said:
Kirby is just embarrassing full stop!

I get the CK show is subjective, some love it, some hate it, but in BP and again in Amstel today he reached new levels of incompetence in terms of reporting on riders, teams and race situations. He is totally clueless, so much so that Dan Lloyd had to correct him several times on air in BP.

Destroys the enjoyment of a race for me every single time.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1647004848955486210
View: https://twitter.com/daniellloyd1/status/1647004848955486210?s=20


Few beers Dan?
 
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Had the displeasure to listen to Carlton Kirby for about 20 minuttes today, it always astounds me how little knowledge he has of cycling and how much fundemental things he gets wrong all the time when he has been commentating for years.
 
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I'm pretty sure it took at least 20 minutes of the race broadcast to tell us who was in the leading group..... Just all the top favourites btw.

It's almost cruel giving CK the classics. He never knows where the riders are on the course, what the up coming climbs are, which ones are notorious etc. It really makes the race feel flat as he is just waffling on about some irrelevant Shite.

Surely his colleagues understand he is marmite.
 
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