Commonwealth Games Road Race and TT

[hmpower]

Who going to get sliver or bronze?

 

[scholar]

Pooley has silver in the bag unless the motorbike that's currently pacing her can bring her up to Armitstead. 3-way sprint for bronze between Villumsen, Pasio and Cromwell.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Pooley's going to get silver. It's down to bronze.

A lot of disappointment at Armitstead's attack online that I can see. Yes, she's won, but she's attacked her own teammate in her last race, and a lot of people aren't too happy about it.

 

[scholar]

Villumsen dropped, but with a motorbike in the gap I'm not sure for how long.

 

[scholar]

A lot of disappointment at Armitstead's attack online that I can see. Yes, she's won, but she's attacked her own teammate in her last race, and a lot of people aren't too happy about it.

Whereabouts is this?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Whereabouts is this?

On twitter & fb.

 

[Zora_DB]

Yeah, not sure why Boardman is saying it was textbook.

 

[scholar]

Among people who actually know about cycling?

Emma's an old friend of mine (and we used to train together), and I'd love to have seen her get gold in her final race. (And I had tears in my eyes as I saw hers as she crossed the line.) But the English tactics were clearly for Armistead: Emma had done more than 80% of the work in the break, and the gap she had didn't necessarily look decisive (even though in retrospect it seems it probably would have been). Sure, with hindsight it seems she could have won a race from the position of being second strongest if Armitstead hadn't attacked, but as it was they got a team 1-2 (which they seemed to be riding for) and won a dominant victory.

 

[Zora_DB]

I just thought she could have taken Pooley with her and worked together for a k or 2 to increase the gap, since Pooley obviously had the legs. Sounds like she wasn't expected to stay strong at the end there, so a plan was executed - fair enough and well done to both of them.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Pooley's going to get silver. It's down to bronze.

A lot of disappointment at Armitstead's attack online that I can see. Yes, she's won, but she's attacked her own teammate in her last race, and a lot of people aren't too happy about it.

It's a chance for a major championship medal, there are no gifts at these games. Let the strongest rider win. Plus if she'd have waited she may have thought they may get caught and miss out on gold altogether.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Among people who actually know about cycling?

Yes. Including some fairly reputable sources about women's cycling too.

Now I'm happy to accept that a touch of romanticism clouds a lot of judgement at the time of the attack (it certainly clouded mine, as I'm a big Emma Pooley fan and am not all that fussed by Lizzie), but it has created some debate. "No gifts" seems to be the underlying discussion point, as of course such actions always do. The fact that the "no gifts" act was from one teammate to another was another sticking point.

Emma's an old friend of mine (and we used to train together), and I'd love to have seen her get gold in her final race. (And I had tears in my eyes as I saw hers as she crossed the line.) But the English tactics were clearly for Armistead: Emma had done more than 80% of the work in the break, and the gap she had didn't necessary decisive (even though it probably would have been). Sure, in retrospect it seems she could have won a race from the position of being second strongest if Armitstead hadn't attacked, but as it was they got a team 1-2 (which they seemed to be riding for) and won a dominant victory.

Sure, the stated team leader was Armitstead, and she took it home exactly as you might have expected. Perhaps they expected Pooley to have been swallowed up again by the climb where Armitstead attacked. But she wasn't, and that made it look like Armitstead attacked her own teammate. Especially because when she got there they didn't work together and Pooley didn't work for her, she just went up and over, which made it look like "thanks, see you later, bye".

It wasn't actually bad tactics or anything like that, but it has left a bad taste in a few people's mouths because the rest of the race showed England could have done the 1-2 without it.

 

[Ryongsyong]

Eh ... Cycling's a team sport. Pooley did an outstanding job in her role today of super-domestique, taking her team-mate to the gold and getting a super silver herself. Great job! No need to get upset; at least they actually had tactics unlike the others (plus some helpful motos).

(In the end, it's just the Commonwealth games. Who cares anyway?)

 

[scholar]

Yes. Including some fairly reputable sources about women's cycling too.

Now I'm happy to accept that a touch of romanticism clouds a lot of judgement at the time of the attack (it certainly clouded mine, as I'm a big Emma Pooley fan and am not all that fussed by Lizzie), but it has created some debate. "No gifts" seems to be the underlying discussion point, as of course such actions always do. The fact that the "no gifts" act was from one teammate to another was another sticking point.


Sure, the stated team leader was Armitstead, and she took it home exactly as you might have expected. Perhaps they expected Pooley to have been swallowed up again by the climb where Armitstead attacked. But she wasn't, and that made it look like Armitstead attacked her own teammate. Especially because when she got there they didn't work together and Pooley didn't work for her, she just went up and over, which made it look like "thanks, see you later, bye".

It wasn't actually bad tactics or anything like that, but it has left a bad taste in a few people's mouths because the rest of the race showed England could have done the 1-2 without it.

Makes sense. I'm not sure I agree, even though I do have mixed feelings about what happened. Ultimately they both knew that Armitstead was stronger even if Emma hadn't spent so long on the front (and off the front). And as I say, it didn't look as if Emma's gap was necessarily decisive when Armitstead attacked, and the place where she went was by far the best point in the race to do so.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I don't think there's many actually saying it was WRONG that Armitstead attacked per se, but quite a few are saying they're disappointed that it played out that way.

 

[theyoungest]

Pooley was just unlucky that her teammate was always the bridesmaid so far in her career. Armitstead just couldn't let this one slip away.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Eh ... Cycling's a team sport. Pooley did an outstanding job in her role today of super-domestique, taking her team-mate to the gold and getting a super silver herself. Great job! No need to get upset; at least they actually had tactics unlike the others (plus some helpful motos).

(In the end, it's just the Commonwealth games. Who cares anyway?)

Quite a few people in the commonwealth do!

 

[hmpower]

Must say that was fair enough result shame emma pooley did not win it. But was good race alround.

 

[hmpower]

Interesting old race without the radios , wonder who missed them the most nz?

 

[The Barb]

Cracking race. Best rider (and team) won.

This is a good course. Will not be an Australian procession in the mens' race.

 

[hmpower]

Think going be great race in mens race don't think Aust has such big advantage say all main nations got a great chance.

 

[willbick]

Lol jon mould with a mech after 10m!!

 

[willbick]

Brutal,conditions

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Stream: http://www.frombar.com/20140728/vv53d5a54001a392.93325224-858304.html

Sh!te conditions.

 

[hmpower]

We have couple off the front! and few down for india

 

[willbick]

Kennaugh going for a long one lol