Aldirto fanmen coming out of the woodwork. Bottom line is nobody in their right mind actually believes Contador is clean. If you like him and therefore want to see him escape a sanction, fine. Don't act as if he doesn't dope though.
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sniper said:Not sure what you've been expecting to hear or read about it.
The article was received by the international press.
Its veracity has never been refuted in any press release afterwards.
peloton said:Sigh. The test is not validated, and won't be for some time.
Barrus said:But still even people in Belgium has not seen the article printed in Humo also none of the international press printed anything more than just the blurb that was posted on the internet site of humo.
Also I never said he should not be sanctioned. Quite frankly I believe he did ingested it through blooddoping. However plasticizer are not to be taken into account and the Humo article never really existed.
LugHugger said:Oh dear. The test is validated and currently in use in the Food and Drink Industry where it has more important applications than those under discussion here. WADA are attempting to fast track the test validation for their purposes. Heaven only knows how long it will take though.
While the method has not yet been fully validated, WADA Director General David Howman said several days before the New York Times article that the test can be used as partial evidence of doping.
He told AP that a general test for plasticizers was, "fully validated and has been used in the food industry for years. Its use for anti-doping purposes is partially validated and evidence from it, among others, can be used before tribunals.”
Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/7...ation-Contador-case-linked.aspx#ixzz1DbBL7wVp
GJB123 said:Please elaborate why De Boer is more than dubious.
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“Laboratories must be able to find 1.00 ng/mL, while a normal threshold value is considered to be 2.00 ng/mL. The value of 0.05-0.10 ng/mL that was found in Fuyu Li’s body points clearly in the direction of a contamination. On top of that, such a low dose would not help his performance in any way.”
Moose McKnuckles said:The plasticizer test has not been fully validated in human testing applications. Testing the plastic content of packaging is an entire different matter.
From the Velonation article:
Barrus said:You mean the article that was not printed?
Dr. Maserati said:De Boer said this back in May about Fuyu Li's positive-
This is false, as there is no threshold - the 2.0ng is the minimum requirement performance level (MRPL) for detection of prohibited substances .
Lanark said:De Boer is also in charge of the Vacansoleil internal testing. Did a good job catching Riccò.
python said:this all stinks of a political settlement and i’m starting ( for the first time in this case) to distrust contador’s lawyers and the rfec’s professionalism.
theswordsman said:#2 Plasticizers. Fahey said in Paris just today that the test STILL isn't ready to be validated. And in the October 4 New York Times article, they realized from the unknown person not at liberty to talk about the matter that the alleged plasticizers were on July 20, a day when there was zero Clenbuterol. Contador has enough blood tests, including during the Tour, to show there was no manipulation. There was also no mention of plasticizers in the six hundred pages submitted by the UCI and WADA. It doesn't exist in the legal case.
Moose McKnuckles said:
webvan said:Yes, they've always been said to be "all over the place", hence his very direct targetting at the TdF and his getting caught red handed!
webvan said:Yes, they've always been said to be "all over the place", hence his very direct targetting at the TdF and his getting caught red handed!
sometriguy said:Pretty sure it is worth sweeping this under the rug, if only to prevent Andy Schleck from being a TDF champion
Lanark said:De Boer is also in charge of the Vacansoleil internal testing. Did a good job catching Riccò.
Mambo95 said:To be fair, Ricco hasn't been at Vacansoleil for very long. It may have been his first attempt at doping with them. It's certainly not long enough to get a grasp of his blood values.
Moose McKnuckles said:Interesting CN article. Perhaps the ban will be reversed.
theswordsman said:#2 Plasticizers. Fahey said in Paris just today that the test STILL isn't ready to be validated. And in the October 4 New York Times article, they realized from the unknown person not at liberty to talk about the matter that the alleged plasticizers were on July 20, a day when there was zero Clenbuterol. Contador has enough blood tests, including during the Tour, to show there was no manipulation. There was also no mention of plasticizers in the six hundred pages submitted by the UCI and WADA. It doesn't exist in the legal case.
theswordsman said:#3 Contador DID file a complaint with the government. Repeat, he DID file a complaint. The Basque government used the tracking system the media tells us is foolproof, and were unable to find the right source. There's reason to believe it didn't pass through the normal chances. Their best of three guesses is it came from a place that was busted for Clenbuterol in 2000.
#4 Farmers are arrested in Spain every year for using Clenbuterol.