Contador about to leave the tour?

[Ryo Hazuki]

That is what I am suggesting, now they are building up his injury so that when he quits then it will look like he has a reason.
Of course there may be another agenda!!!! He has 3 wins, enough to live on for the rest of his life & a clean slate for his sponsers & his team that has an owner with a tarnished record. If AC quits now with a good reason (injury) & does not get to win & then have the win taken away from him next month there will be a lot of people much happier, the ASO, Barny Riis, Saxo Bank et al.

I know 99% sure he won't retire from cycling even when he gets suspended. he loves cycling too much

 

[Archibald]

Andy will bonk on Plateau de Beille with Frank

this is when Cuddles will make his move

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Andy will bonk on Plateau de Beille and Cuddles too

The chances of that happening are close to zero.

 

[Dermie]

I know 99% sure he won't retire from cycling even when he gets suspended. he loves cycling too much

He may not retire there is still a lot of money left in cycling for him. He will just do his year & comeback, like all the others, Vino, Millar, Basso, Ricco etc.

 

[Dermie]

i have never seen some1 so much in the known and so sure about stuff like you. you are sure contador drop out, you are sure evans will win. what are you not sure of?

btw will do the typical july move and vanish as soon as the real climbers drop evans?

maybe!! maybe not!!!

 

[profff]

Some of these fanboys and doping apologists might want to have a word with their old school geography teachers, as they've apparently been left with the impression that countries like France and Germany are in the anglophone world.

probably you need to have a word with your teacher at primary school because , even being anglophone , you cannot read, or better, understand what you read.
i did not write that the anglophones are the only one concerned about doping.

i am not a fanboy and a doping apologists.
you are very arrogant just because you write in your native language.

anyway everybody being or closely following the giro realized the difference between the attitudes of italian public and french at the tour.

 

[LaFlorecita]

He may not retire there is still a lot of money left in cycling for him. He will just do his year & comeback, like all the others, Vino, Millar, Basso, Ricco etc.

You really think he does it all for the money?!

 

[Cimber]

That is what I am suggesting.

Ye I thought as much. Obviously your dont know much about cycling, nor have your really been following Contador closely to suggest such BS.

If Contador leaves the Tour then its because he got a genuine injury. If you know anything about the guy you would know he is not a guy who just leaves a race. You can dislike the guy, call him a doper even, but I havent seen anyone ever calling him a quitter before. On the contrary I would call the guy a real fighter.

 

[Spaniard]

Ye I thought as much. Obviously your dont know much about cycling, nor have your really been following Contador closely to suggest such BS.

If Contador leaves the Tour then its because he got a genuine injury. If you know anything about the guy you would know he is not a guy who just leave a race. You can dislike the guy, call him a doper even, but I havent seen anyone ever calling him a quitter before. On the contrary I would call the guy a real fighter.

Totally agree.

 

[No_Balls]

The chances of that happening are close to zero.

Why not? It´s not like they are super-human.

 

[panache]

Doesn't anybody find it strange that they are so open about a possible injury? Remember last year when Evans said nothing, not even to his teammates, about the elbow injury? The line of riders hiding injuries is much longer than those coming out openly and suggesting they are going to abondon any time shortly. Why would he want to invite hard racing and further attacks when all he should really want is to follow easily in the wheels to let his knee heal?

And foremost, let's not forget that he has a DS who knowd the Schlecks better than anyone and knows how to psych them out and get under their skin.

Nope, there is sonething very strange going on the "Kingdom of Denmark".

Regards
GJ

If Riis is baiting the Schlecks it could be to get them to attack in the Pyrenees before Bertie's knee starts to feel better. Combine that with a statement from Bertie that the attacks can wait until the Alps if necessary. Not convinced this is the case, but with 1:34 to make up, getting the Schlecks to show their cards isn't such a bad strategy.

 

[Midnightfright]

If Riis is baiting the Schlecks it could be to get them to attack in the Pyrenees before Bertie's knee starts to feel better. Combine that with a statement from Bertie that the attacks can wait until the Alps if necessary. Not convinced this is the case, but with 1:34 to make up, getting the Schlecks to show their cards isn't such a bad strategy.

I understand what your saying but what cards do they expect them to show? Unless they feel particularly bad i would always be the same get the team to drive it hard to drop or put in trouble as many guys as possible then off they go or that would be the plan atleast. It may be a.good strategy if the Schlecks plan wasn't so transparent.

 

[Angliru]

They are building it up so that when he drops out then we all know there is a good reason & not because he is a quitter when it gets a bit hard

You seem to be implying that you believe that he is lacking of intestinal fortitude. That when the going gets tough he drops out. Is that what you're taking an indirect way of saying?

 

[panache]

I understand what your saying but what cards do they expect them to show? Unless they feel particularly bad i would always be the same get the team to drive it hard to drop or put in trouble as many guys as possible then off they go or that would be the plan atleast. It may be a.good strategy if the Schlecks plan wasn't so transparent.

I may be overestimating the tactics available to either Andy or Alberto once they get into the high mountains. I do doubt that Andy feels comfortable with less than two minutes lead going into the TT. This creates a game of chicken really... Does AC think he can take back the whole gap in the TT? If so, just follow wheels until the knee feels better. Does Andy feel he has a big enough lead going into the TT? Then just shadow AC for two more weeks. If he feels he needs to take more time, better to try it early while your competitor's knee is still ailing.

Whether such a bluff truly gets them anywhere is a valid counterpoint. I just struggle to explain why a rider of Riis is so open about his injuries to his competitors so early in the tour. Cadel kept quiet last year because he didn't want his competitors taking advantage. I'm suggesting some Riis jujitsu on that fear.

 

[Dermie]

Just seen AC interview, he will not there at the end cos of his knee

 

[Dermie]

You seem to be implying that you believe that he is lacking of intestinal fortitude. That when the going gets tough he drops out. Is that what you're taking an indirect way of saying?

Yes, he has had it all good at tour, now he has suspicion, falls & bad luck, he will pull out.

 

[No_Balls]

Just seen AC interview, he will not there at the end cos of his knee

I am tired of your bulls-****. Give us that interview (source).

 

[Cimber]

Yes, he has had it all good at tour, now he has suspicion, falls & bad luck, he will pull out.

He has had it all good at the tour? 2009 would like to have a word with you.

 

[dsut4392]

And in the Armstrong years you had Beloki etc crashing left and right... You're absolutely right.

Beloki only crashed once. Granted, it was a pretty spectacular one, but still, only one.

And it was on the left

 

[lucybears]

Just seen AC interview, he will not there at the end cos of his knee

http://www.sports.fr/cmc/scanner/cy...e-rentrerai-pas-a-la-maison_372633.html?popup

googled

Alberto Contador spoke before the start of the 10th stage of Tour de France between Aurillac and Carmaux. "The idea of ​​going home did not even crossed my mind," assured the Spaniard who complains of pain in his knee preventing it from adopting its standard rate of pedaling. "I will not go home before the end of the Tour. I will do my best to get the win in Paris," added the winner of the 2010 Tour in two days of the first high mountain stage between Cugnaux and Luz-Ardiden.

 

[Delicato]

Don't feed the troll.

Actually, SBS staff said that the knee is getting better and back to normal size.

 

[gregod]

and how many of us do you want to come forward to say that acupuncture actually helped them with knee pain and inflammation?

i'll start -- me.

Last winter, a day before my friend's wedding, i caught a cold. The day of the wedding was pretty miserable; stuffy nose, sore throat, etc. However, I muddled through and enjoyed it as much as possible. At the reception, I had a chance to talk to the priest who performed the wedding.

Sure enough, two days later or so my sore throat was gone and my stuffy nose cleared. I felt better. Who could have predicted that meeting this man would have cured my cold?

(much better and less damaging in the long run than a cortisone shot.)

doing nothing sometimes is.

 

[No_Balls]

Don't feed the troll.

Actually, SBS staff said that the knee is getting better and back to normal size.

Now that´s a slightly positive note. Hopefully he stays out of trouble today and reports some lesser pain at the end of the stage

The miracles of acupuncture who i can confirm works really well. Once, my knee was swollen like a melon and it did it almost overnight. I was amazed by it.

 

[gregod]

Now that´s a slightly positive note. Hopefully he stays out of trouble today and reports some lesser pain at the end of the stage

The miracles of acupuncture who i can confirm works really well. Once, my knee was swollen like a melon and it did it almost overnight. I was amazed by it.

sorry if reality is trolling, but what makes you think that the swelling would not have disappeared without the needles? By the way, did you ice your knee too?

I know this is way off topic and i am glad AC's knee is getting better, but it was not because of acupuncture. he also rested, iced and massaged the joint and those are things that have been shown to be effective for joint pain and inflammation in randomizeddouble blind trials.

Show some evidence not anecdote and i will be happy to sings acupuncture's praises.

 

[No_Balls]

sorry if reality is trolling, but what makes you think that the swelling would not have disappeared without the needles? By the way, did you ice your knee too?

Yes, i did.

sorry if reality is trolling, but what makes you think that the swelling would not have disappeared without the needles? By the way, did you ice your knee too?

I know this is way off topic and i am glad AC's knee is getting better, but it was not because of acupuncture. he also rested, iced and massaged the joint and those are things that have been shown to be effective for joint pain and inflammation

Hard to come to such conclusions given there are no serious research in acupuncture and that the research findings are poor. Probably because it is somehow a controversial method (because it challenge traditional methods).

Acupuncture is first and foremost a complementary therapy. The mental effect it can have is not to be underestimated too.

Show some evidence not anecdote and i will be happy to sings acupuncture's praises.

Evidence? What evidence? I am not a doctor nor i am a researcher and i can´t report more than it worked the first time i had some treatment. Also, i do not think there are some witch-doctors in the Saxobank-squad, they obviously have faith in the method.

For me it worked as it is supposed to work, complementary, and i really have no idea how it had been without it since i have no other (personal) references.