Contador acquitted

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Barrus

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I wonder how will the ASO and RCS react to this. If Contador wants to ride either the Giro or the Tour will these groups complain about it if the case is still being tried by CAS?
 
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Yeessssssss! I see a suspicious judgement in CN headlines: "could escape ban", why not to say "Disciplinary Committe finds Contador innocent" :D

In fact, Cyclingnews is revealing as playing a huge rol in this case as well as in others. Editorial line is called?
 
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Jamsque said:
I am disgusted that there are people on this board who think this represents justice.

I dont think it represents justice of any kind. I would bet my house that he doped. But i view life through on own terms.

I think everyone is doping, and i strongly oppose the sport of scape goating, putting everyones sins on a got (in this case Alberto) and beating it out of the village for it to starve so that everyone else can claim clean cycling.

Also i think Contador is a better ambassador for the sport than Andrew.

So i hope he will be free to ride.
 

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Aguirre said:
Yeessssssss! I see a suspicious judgement in CN headlines: "could escape ban", why not to say "Disciplinary Committe finds Contador innocent" :D

In fact, Cyclingnews is revealing as playing a huge rol in this case as well as in others. Editorial line is called?

In this case, as far as we know, a ban would be most appropriate, he had a substance in his test sample and there was strict liability, it is only right he would be banned.
 
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Jamsque said:
I am disgusted that there are people on this board who think this represents justice.

Justice? Contador sitting out whilst Frank Schleck's brother gets paraded around as a hero? Professional cycling seems to very rarely produce the "just" outcome, whichever way you look at it.

Originally I wanted to see him nailed for two years no questions asked. But over time I've softened. Whether he gets 0, 1 or 2 years doesn't really matter for the future of cycling, he will always deny deny deny, everyone will be hush hush, he will win the TdF again whether it's in 2011, 2012 or 2013.

Maybe I convinced myself to be satisfied with this outcome because I always suspected it might happen.

Of course it's not over by far, like I said earlier, the terrible thing will be the drawn out appeals process.
 
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awaiting to hear what were the two specific arguments brought forward by the contador's team that resulted in the reversal.

as i mention one hundred times already, i cant understand why those two 'saving' arguments (submitted within a 10-day appeal window) could not be brought forward with the original submission to the disciplinary committe.

what could have happened in the 10 days that was not settled 6 months earlier ? strange.
 
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Barrus said:
In this case, as far as we know, a ban would be most appropriate, he had a substance in his test sample and there was strict liability, it is only right he would be banned.

Until such a time as there is a study proving that clen shows up in a reasonable amount of the population's systems, the strict liability must be applied. Any other rationalization at this point is absurd.
 
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Until such a time as there is a study proving that clen shows up in a reasonable amount of the population's systems, the strict liability must be applied. Any other rationalization at this point is absurd.

normal human beings are not tested on picograms of clenbuterol in their body. there weren't any tetsing methods for this until last year. and since then a dozen of athletes in multiple sports have been caught on this and all have been acquitted except fuyu li who was majorly screwed as it now seems
 

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Until such a time as there is a study proving that clen shows up in a reasonable amount of the population's systems, the strict liability must be applied. Any other rationalization at this point is absurd.

Agreed upon this

There is only one part of this decsision I am happy with and that is that Schlecklet won't get the win of last years tour. There is no way he deserved that and I just dislike him :p
 
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Strict liability is the cornerstone of all anti-doping rules, if it can be waived for Contador then it can be waived for anyone and we are back to the bad old days of anything goes and guys sprinting up mountains and dying at the summit.
 
Aguirre said:
Yeessssssss! I see a suspicious judgement in CN headlines: "could escape ban", why not to say "Disciplinary Committe finds Contador innocent" :D

In fact, Cyclingnews is revealing as playing a huge rol in this case as well as in others. Editorial line is called?

There is still no official announcement. Therefore we cannot say he has been acquitted or suspended. As of this moment, it is simply speculation.

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Well this is embarrassing. It also makes the preliminary ruling look quite staged.
 
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Barrus said:
Agreed upon this

There is only one part of this decsision I am happy with and that is that Schlecklet won't get the win of last years tour. There is no way he deserved that and I just dislike him :p

Just consider the award as given to the most stealthy doper. Contador is most certainly not that.
 
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I seriously doubt this has anything to do with the RFEC believing that Contador is innocent. This is nothing but politics. Contador is incredibly popular in Spain so by acquiting him the RFEC can act like the cowards that they are and pass the buck onto the CAS to make the real decisi on. So when Contadors is found guilty by the CAS then the they can whimper "It wasn't us....We acquited him".

Because Contador was suspended by UCI and not the RFEC, he will stay suspended duing the appeal process or will he be free to race?
(I'm sorry, i see the answer in the other responses)
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
normal human beings are not tested on picograms of clenbuterol in their body. there weren't any tetsing methods for this until last year. and since then a dozen of athletes in multiple sports have been caught on this and all have been acquitted except fuyu li who was majorly screwed as it now seems

I'd bet Contador's internal controls will now account for this change in testing standards. In as that much, the controls applied certainly suggest cycling's serious efforts to thwart the dopers won't be upheld by certain governing bodies.
 
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awaiting to hear what were the two specific arguments brought forward by the contador's team that resulted in the reversal.

as i mention one hundred times already, i cant understand why those two 'saving' arguments (submitted within a 10-day appeal window) could not be brought forward with the original submission to the disciplinary committe.

what could have happened in the 10 days that was not settled 6 months earlier ? strange.

very strange indeed. if those arguments were the most convincing you would expect them to be at the forefront of his defense - presented first instead of last?

i think you're making a mistake in looking for an honest answer though. i think they floated the idea of a 1 year ban to gauge reaction, the otcharov decision came down in the meantime and it suddenly looked less egregious for them to protect AC. RFEC probably figures an appeal to CAS is inevitable and most will have forgotten about their involvement 6 months to a year from now.
 
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it seems he might be in Portugal and also at Giro, tic, tac, tic. tac (repetition of Valverde's case)

then few days before the Tour the TAS pronnounces its veredit :D
 
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