the vagabond said:Most respondents are underestimating the seriousness of the protocol violation of Contador's attacking move on Wednesday. Things were getting better until then, and that changed a lot. And now he has gone off verbally and contradicted himself - he has earlier said many times that he looked up to and respected Lance. No one is denying Contador has been in a tough spot all along, but he's the one who has escalated the situation, not Lance. And I agree, Lance has a lot more friends in the peloton than Contador. 26-year-old prima donnas don't cut it - AC has made a big mistake.
everybodypanic said:Wow, almost 2000 posts! I guess having new wallpaper to go with your mega post count is important when you're never outside riding a bike...
Bagster said:Sigh, I keep hoping for at least some objectivity from you but it is never forthcoming. The reality is that LA has never publicly slagged off AC as a person. (if he has, maybe you can link the comment) In fact as I have already said in another post, since the end of the tour he has praised AC's ability as a rider even to the point of admitting that AC would have beaten him in three of his tour wins and has AC's victory photos plastered all ove his website. Hardly the actions of someone "not handling his third place". In contrast what does AC do? The first chance he gets upon returning home he attacks Armstrong personally. Probably Lance should not have then retaliated and AC would have just ended up looking like the pouting little pratt. He should just accept his win and move on, not start running other guys down.
anubisza said:You're not wrong. The story about the comeback being just about raising cancer awareness seems more and more ridiculous.
balkou said:He attacked. And instead Kloeden putting 2 minutes on Lance he lost some seconds and off he went with the 3rd place.Lance should kiss his feet for that, he put him on the podium.
And though Frank can not time trial Lance can not climb like he once could. He was the only one of the main contenders that made the climb in the ITT of Annecy in more than 9', 9'11'' to be precise. Contador, Kloeden, the Schlecks, Wiggins, Cancellara, Luis Sanchez Leon, even Moreau made it in less than 9'![]()
He did not need to ride the tour to do that. The return to cycling was supposed to be about cancer, but now it's about his ego.thehog said:Armstrong has a big mouth on the bike but his work with cancer awareness he doesn't always adopt the same approach.
Not many of you know about Sebastian Joly. French cyclist who also received cancer testicular. Lance emailed him and arranged for him to be seen by the best cancer specialist in France. Something Joly could not afford alone. This is the sort of news that does not get reported because it is not sensenational. Joly was not dying but he got the best treatment.
Joly is back in the peleton but did not finish the Tour.
Bagster said:Contador is acting more like a Chump than a Champ
Jonathan said:He did not need to ride the tour to do that. The return to cycling was supposed to be about cancer, but now it's about his ego.
auscyclefan94 said:Contador is still a very immature rider. Stop acting like a phucking baby Alberto. You may not like Lance but he conducts himself with pure class.
+1Bagster said:Well mate LA certainly shows a lot more class than you do. You spend all day slagging the guy off and then have the cheek to actually criticise his behaviour! You're a joke.
It makes me laugh that clowns like you can call him on the most minor comment and yet you feel vindicated in calling him all the names under the sun!
The fact is that LA is a 7 time winner and you unfortunately are far short of that.
Jonathan said:He did not need to ride the tour to do that. The return to cycling was supposed to be about cancer, but now it's about his ego.
Amsterhammer said:All non-offensive and non-abusive points of view should be accepted, but you really are the last poster who should be referring to Orwell!
Talk about irony.![]()
TRDean said:too bad you don't conduct yourself with the same amount of class...oh wait were talking about LA class...you do!!
auscyclefan94 said:I am not slagging somebody off to make a point like you are. I am just having an arguement with a few people. It doesn't mean i hate them. LA does conduct himself in front of the media with class because he shows didgnity and respect to the riders(mostly) though we do all have our moments don't we TRDean
Bagster said:Well mate LA certainly shows a lot more class than you do. You spend all day slagging the guy off and then have the cheek to actually criticise his behaviour! You're a joke.
It makes me laugh that clowns like you can call him on the most minor comment and yet you feel vindicated in calling him all the names under the sun!
The fact is that LA is a 7 time winner and you unfortunately are far short of that.
RhodriM said:Doesn't speak much to the media these days though...
auscyclefan94 said:You may not like Lance but he conducts himself with pure class.
lucybears said:from chasing down Simeoni to leaving AC without transport in Annecy, he conducts himself with pure class - right
At the tour he talked much less to the press than he could. He let Contador do press conferences prety much alone. You know, it would have been indicative of a man with class if he had said: 'Here's Alberto, he is the leader of our team, you can ask him about his chances of winning the yellow jersey. I'm going to talk about funding cancer research.'auscyclefan94 said:AT the tour he did. Why would you talk to somebody if the continually kept on bagging him.
Jonathan said:At the tour he talked much less to the press than he could. He let Contador do press conferences prety much alone. You know, it would have been indicative of a man with class if he had said: 'Here's Alberto, he is the leader of our team, you can ask him about his chances of winning the yellow jersey. I'm going to talk about funding cancer research.'
He should have clearly separated their roles. Contador was there to win the Tour, Armstrong was there to make a glorious comeback and by doing so raise awareness for cancer. Those goals got muddy as Armstrong could not set his ego aside. That is not the mark of a good character.
ptensioned said:Once Contador established he was going to win on Verbier, the wheels came off the Astana Magical Mystery Tour. All this nonsense is all about positioning for next year.
Those who question where the support for Contador is from within his team, perhaps you ought to look at where those who spoke out are next year. Leipheimer et al. will be in RadioShack kit. The supporters of Contador are not secure enough with jobs to feel confident about jawing with Armstrong and by extension, Bruyneel. They have both proven themselves to be vindictive (check Bruyneel's relationship with Sporza for evidence), so why risk future employment? It may be a different story next year if Alonso and Contador can make something happen.
I'm no big fan of either rider on either side (Rabobank, if you must know. Thank God for Garate. Gesink in the Vuelta!). But I read a relatively innocuous comment from Contador about not liking Lance on a personal level (surprise!) and then a very bitter response from someone who just lost. Most seem to think Armstrong is winning the psychological battle, but in hindsight I think we'll see that Contador is winning in spades. He did win the real race, after all.
Bruyneel designated Contador as primary leader. Regardless, at the first rest day it was already clear that Contador's form was better than Armstrong's.auscyclefan94 said:AC was never their leader until after verbier. Both guys aimed and believed they could win the tour. I heard Lance multiple times at the tour talking.