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Contador positive!!!!!

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auscyclefan94 said:
True.


Schleck has now on two tour de france's and cadel one!!!!!

For the less informed like myself, what exactly will the process be now? I see they are talking small amounts and only on one day. Is he really at risk of losing the 2010 TdF over this?

It's a strange drug to have in your food? I thought Alberto had his own Chef with strict food prep protocols and security?
 
Seriously though, i think some people are getting a bit excited. He tests positive for Cera, EPo or synthetic testostrone its big news. THis i dont know. I dont know much about this drug. COuld someone tell me about it. WOuld it help a lot?
 
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Polyarmour said:
For the less informed like myself, what exactly will the process be now? I see they are talking small amounts and only on one day. Is he really at risk of losing the 2010 TdF over this?

It's a strange drug to have in your food? I thought Alberto had his own Chef with strict food prep protocols and security?

If he gets suspended for this test, he would lose the 2010 TDF. And thats it.

Its a big if though.
 
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From the U.S. DEA web site:

Introduction:

Clenbuterol is a potent, long-lasting bronchodilator that is prescribed for human use outside of the U.S. It is abused generally by bodybuilders and athletes for its ability to increase lean muscle mass and reduce body fat (i.e., repartitioning effects). However, clenbuterol is also associated with significant adverse cardiovascular and neurological effects.

Licit Uses:

In the U.S., clenbuterol is not approved for human use; it is only approved for use in horses. In 1998, the FDA approved the clenbuterol-based Ventipulmin Syrup, manufactured by Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica, Inc., as a prescription-only drug for the treatment of airway obstruction in horses (0.8-3.2 µg/kg twice daily). This product is not intended for human use or for use in food-producing animals.

Outside the U.S., clenbuterol is available by prescription for the treatment of bronchial asthma in humans. It is available in tablets (0.01 or 0.02 mg per tablet) and liquid preparations. The recommended dosage is 0.02-0.03 mg twice daily.

Chemistry and Pharmacology:

Clenbuterol is a beta2-adrenergic agonist. Stimulation of the beta2-adrenergic receptors on bronchial smooth muscle produces bronchodilation. However, clenbuterol, like other beta adrenergic agonists, can produce adverse cardiovascular and neurological effects, such as heart palpitations, muscle tremors, and nervousness. Activation of beta-adrenergic receptors also accounts for clenbuterol’s ability to increase lean muscle mass and reduce body fat, although the downstream mechanisms by which it does so have yet to be clearly defined.

After ingestion, clenbuterol is readily absorbed (70-80%) and remains in the body for awhile (25-39 hours). As a result of its long half life, the adverse effects of clenbuterol are often prolonged.

Illicit Uses:

Clenbuterol is abused for its ability to alter body composition by reducing body fat and increasing skeletal muscle mass. It is typically abused by athletes and bodybuilders at a dose of 60-120 µg per day. It is often used in combination with other performance enhancing drugs, such as anabolic steroids and growth hormone.

It is also illicitly administered to livestock for its repartitioning effects. This has resulted in several outbreaks of acute illness in Spain, France, Italy, China, and Portugal 0.5-3 hours after individuals ingested liver and meat containing clenbuterol residues. The symptoms, which included increased heart rate, nervousness, headache, muscular tremor, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, fever, and chills, typically resolved within 2 to 6 days. Consequently, the U.S. and Europe actively monitor urine and tissue samples from livestock for the presence of clenbuterol.

There have also been reports of clenbuterol-tainted heroin and cocaine. Although no deaths were attributed to the clenbuterol exposures, the individuals were hospitalized for up to several days due to clenbuterol intoxication.

User Population:

Clenbuterol is typically abused by athletes. It is thought to be more popular among female athletes as the repartitioning effects are not associated with the typical androgenic side effects (i.e., facial hair, deepening of the voice, and thickening of the skin) of anabolic steroids. Professional athletes in several different sports have tested positive for clenbuterol. Clenbuterol is also marketed and abused for weight-loss purposes.

Illicit Distribution:

Clenbuterol is readily available on the Internet as tablets, syrup, and an injectable formulation. The drug is purportedly obtained by illegal importation from other countries where it is approved for human use.

DEA forensic laboratories reported 8 clenbuterol drug items in 2006, 28 items in 2007 and 18 items in 2008. In the first half of 2009, 6 items were reported by DEA laboratories. According to National Forensic Laboratory Information System (NFLIS), state and local forensic laboratories reported 24 clenbuterol drug items/exhibits in 2006, 18 items/exhibits in 2007, and 3 items/exhibits in 2008. From January to June 2009, one item/exhibit was identified as clenbuterol by state and local laboratories. The relatively small numbers are likely a reflection of the non-controlled status of clenbuterol in the United States.

Control status:

Clenbuterol is currently not controlled under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). However, clenbuterol is listed by the World Anti-Doping Agency and the International Olympic Committee as a performance enhancing drug; therefore athletes are barred from its use. Presently, no states have placed clenbuterol under control.
 
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The Hitch said:
Seriously though, i think some people are getting a bit excited. He tests positive for Cera, EPo or synthetic testostrone its big news. THis i dont know. I dont know much about this drug. COuld someone tell me about it. WOuld it help a lot?

Clenbuterol is approved for use in some countries (via prescription only) as a bronchodilator for asthma patients.[2] Recently though, the drug has been publicized for its off-label use as a weight loss drug, similar to usage of other sympathomimetic amines such as Ephedrine. It is commonly used as a slimming aid despite lack of sufficient clinical evidence supporting such use.[2]
 
Izzy eviel said:
What is Clenbuterol? What does it do? Is it a major or a minor thing to be caught with?

From Wikipedia

.... It causes an increase in aerobic capacity, central nervous system stimulation, and an increase in blood pressure and oxygen transportation. It increases the rate at which fats are metabolized, simultaneously increasing the body's BMR. It is commonly used for smooth muscle relaxant properties. This means that it is a bronchodilator and tocolytic....... As of fall, 2006, clenbuterol is not an ingredient of any therapeutic drug approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and is now banned for IOC-tested athletes. See further at List of doping cases in sport. Polish sprint canoer Adam Seroczyński was disqualified for taking this drug after finished fourth in the K-2 1000 m event at the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, and Chinese cyclist Li Fuyu tested positive for it at the Dwars Door Vlaanderen race in Belgium on March 24, 2010

I'd put it in the "major" category personally.
 
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aarnold517 said:
This is crazy because he is standing to both win and lose if alberto is DQ'ed...guess it wasn't such a good idea to let spartacus go after all...:rolleyes:

Theres no real win for Riis. Sure, Schleck would have 'won' the Tour, but Schleck is no longer his rider
 
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Izzy eviel said:
What is Clenbuterol? What does it do? Is it a major or a minor thing to be caught with?

Doesn't matter since it's on the banned list.

RS's FuYi Li tested positive for Clenbuterol and was kicked off the team. Don't know about his suspension though.
 
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The Hitch said:
Seriously though, i think some people are getting a bit excited. He tests positive for Cera, EPo or synthetic testostrone its big news. THis i dont know. I dont know much about this drug. COuld someone tell me about it. WOuld it help a lot?

Clenbuterol has some similar effects, it is big enough and having a 3 time tour de france winner testing positive is mega news!
 
Its the preferred drug of Ale-Jet and its microdosed as well as other banned drugs like EPO. Its quickly absorbed and pretty quickly eliminated from the body, 1 to 1.5 days. Its a nice drug for micro dosing because you can get the benefits of lean muscle without all the side effects if its abused as gym rats often do. Its not like anyone thought he was clean anyway, he stroked, was a puerto customer and now he finally gets caught. Loser.
 
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this is a dumb drug for an endurance athlete to take. It is ideal for fat loss. It WILL enlargen your heart if you do large amounts of cardio while on the drug.

if conti was looking to lose fat Ephedrin and caffiene would of been a beter choice.

I honestly think this is contamination.
 

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Polyarmour said:
For the less informed like myself, what exactly will the process be now? I see they are talking small amounts and only on one day. Is he really at risk of losing the 2010 TdF over this?

It's a strange drug to have in your food? I thought Alberto had his own Chef with strict food prep protocols and security?

The 'they' is his "personal press office" - I would not read to much in to what they say, except that they have broken the story.


As fo what happens now? I presume they were awaiting for the B sample before going public.

So this looks like an A & B sample confirmed and it is the same substance Fuyu Li was caught for.

Bye bye Alberto.
 
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This news is not surprising. The guy should get 8 years especially with his track record with Puerto!!

AUssies should listen to SEN 1116 as ACF94 has broken the story in Australian media.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
The 'they' is his "personal press office" - I would not read to much in to what they say, except that they have broken the story.


As fo what happens now? I presume they were awaiting for the B sample before going public.

So this looks like an A & B sample confirmed and it is the same substance Fuyu Li was caught for.

Bye bye Alberto.

Looks like Lance called in the ultimate favor :) This ought to get Lance off the headlines for a few weeks - George W style.
 
Johnalex13 said:
this is a dumb drug for an endurance athlete to take. It is ideal for fat loss. It WILL enlargen your heart if you do large amounts of cardio while on the drug.

if conti was looking to lose fat Ephedrin and caffiene would of been a beter choice.

I honestly think this is contamination.

Umm, maybe he was taking it for those other benefits. You know, the increase in aerobic capacity and oxygen transportation???
 
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you mean in general or for something specific on that rest day ??

and why wouldnt it be masked ??
 
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From the cyclingnews article,

"The experts consulted so far have agreed also that this is a food contamination case, especially considering the number of tests passed by Alberto Contador during the Tour de France, making it possible to define precisely both the time the emergence of the substance as the tiny amount detected, ruling out any other source or intentionality."

Not an AC fan, but pretty f***ed up if someone spiked his food.
 
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From the wikipedia article it sounds like to me if you were going to use it, the time to do so would be on a rest day as part of a recovery regime. On the other hand, it seems like it is readily detectable and Contador would have to be an idiot to use such a PED.

Good luck proving contamination Contador even if it truly was contamination.