Contador positive!!!!!

[auscyclefan94]

When it comes to doping, that kid has a lot to learn.

I wonder if Bruyneel taught him.

 

[veganrob]

I trained race horses years ago and we did treat them with clenbuterol (Ventipulmin syrup). It was effective at clearing up lungs. Had to stop at least 36 hours out to avoid a positive, by then the benefits had really worn off anyway. So it was really more effective as a training and medical drug. Was expensive too. Suppose it could help a cyclist some but it would be very tricky. It does cause heart palpitations which would not be good in a race. So, could he have used it ? Yes. But why did it only show up on the rest day and not after Tourmalet unless he used it rest day morning. Have to wait and see. I kind of hope it is not true but it really doesn't matter I guess because they are all probably dirty.

 

[python]

This is truly funny, being willing to accept innocent exposure for Contador while also being someone who is absolutely convinced that LA is the biggest doper in the peleton, even without a positive test (TUE for cortisone excepted).

I guess you really just hate Lance so bad that you are willing to overlook having a 3-time Tour winner test positive.

if this is funny for you you can continue to to deceive everyone on this forum that you are just playing a devil's advocate when you assert conspiracy with 99 armstrong samples.

i guess you just love fraud.

 

[Cycling News Fan]

An interesting thing to know in Alberto's defense is how common is it to have meat contaiminated with Clenbuterol appear in your urine.

These riders are tested all year round - how many of them have false positives for this drug?

If the answer is "none" then it seems highly unlikely that this would just happen to occur in the third week of the Tour De France. Possible, but it would be a hell of a coincidence.

 

[roundabout]

I want to hear from Riis, I want to hear what that stupid bald doper has to say. His sack must be wrenched tight right now cause he doesn't have the seeds to fire Contador. It would be suicide for his team. To steal a line from another doper, Au Revoir Alberto.

Outside of Contador there isn't much point in sponsoring Riis anymore.

Sponsors walking out in 5...4...3...

 

[pedaling squares]

An interesting thing to know in Alberto's defense is how common is it to have meat contaiminated with Clenbuterol appear in your urine.

These riders are tested all year round - how many of them have false positives for this drug?

If the answer is "none" then it seems highly unlikely that this would just happen to occur in the third week of the Tour De France. Possible, but it would be a hell of a coincidence.

At a time when you are being very careful with your diet and are eating meals with your team. None of whom appear to have tested positive for the same substance...

 

[CPAvelo]

Its bute not clen on the streets, you need to polish up your lingo if you want street cred.

Guess that depends on which "street." According to the US Dept. of Justice "clen" is a street name": http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugs_concern/clenbuterol.htm. Never having used the drug for health or performance enhancement, I wouldn't know. "Bute" among the peloton?

 

[Anonymous]

Maybe he will roll over on The Hog and take the heat up on him another notch. This is yet another example of a rider testing positive after leaving the fold. Of course, they all didn't start doping until they left...

 

[Nick777]

Anyone else think a transfusion was involved?

 

[Wolves-Lower]

Li Fuyu already tested positive for his B-Sample....

I understand that, however have they made a ruling on his case?

Fuyu's case will set a Precedent for the outcome of Contador...assuming B is positive as well.

 

[roundabout]

At a time when you are being very careful with your diet and are eating meals with your team. None of whom appear to have tested positive for the same substance...

+1. Since it happened on a rest day it's likely that the whole team was tested. Unless of course Contador was specifically targeted.

 

[auscyclefan94]

if this is funny for you you can continue to to deceive everyone on this forum that you are just playing a devil's advocate when you assert conspiracy with 99 armstrong samples.

i guess you just love fraud.

And so do you. You are nooooo different to the LA fanboys when defending AC. Unbelievable. Officially, lance has not failed a test and AC has. Though obviously lance did cheat.

 

[roundabout]

I understand that, however have they made a ruling on his case?

Fuyu's case will set a Precedent for the outcome of Contador...assuming B is positive as well.

Look up Jessica Hardy.

 

[pedaling squares]

Maybe he will roll over on The Hog and take the heat up on him another notch. This is yet another example of a rider testing positive after leaving the fold. Of course, they all didn't start doping until they left...

You would have to start doping to make up for the lack of guidance from the smartest man ever to call a stage race, the tactical genius known as The Hog.

The Gospel according to Phil

 

[veganrob]

Its bute not clen on the streets, you need to polish up your lingo if you want street cred.

Clen is clenbuterol. Bute is Butazolodin

 

[Guttercat]

I don't think it would be beyond a PED user to look up the side-effect and pharmacokinetic profiles of a drug after testing positive for it.

"Look guys it says here that there was a reported case of people eating contaminated livestock and testing positive for Clenbuterol resides. That is my excuse."

NW

Agreed, but it was on "one day" only which wouldn't quite make sense.

And really, I'm with everyone that says...there's still a lot more we don't know yet. Let's all not start Cont bashing. I'm still getting over the Lance bashing and I need time to heal.

GC out.

 

[python]

And so do you. You are nooooo different to the LA fanboys when defending AC. Unbelievable. Officially, lance has not failed a test and AC has. Though obviously lance did cheat.

this post means you are illiterate or grandly under equipped upstairs if you saw me defending ac.

 

[Squares]

Anyone else think a transfusion was involved?

You may be onto something...

He stored blood when he was using Clenbuterol to lose weight/get lean and then forgot that it might be detectable. After the transfusion it started clearing again from his blood but was not entirely gone.

So, he was right that it he was accidently exposed and could pass the lie detector tests.

 

[JRTinMA]

Guess that depends on which "street." According to the US Dept. of Justice "clen" is a street name": http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugs_concern/clenbuterol.htm. Never having used the drug for health or performance enhancement, I wouldn't know. "Bute" among the peloton?

I stand corrected, I have heard the term bute around gyms. I know its popular with big, loud and annoying gym rats. You have cred!

 

[auscyclefan94]

this post means you are illiterate or grandly under equipped upstairs if you saw me defending ac.

you are having a go at squares for "loving fraud" but you are defending a fraud as well.

 

[El Pistolero]

And so do you. You are nooooo different to the LA fanboys when defending AC. Unbelievable. Officially, lance has not failed a test and AC has. Though obviously lance did cheat.

Lance tested positive for EPO in the '99 Tour quite a few times.

 

[doxter]

At a time when you are being very careful with your diet and are eating meals with your team. None of whom appear to have tested positive for the same substance...

now we know alberto had the double portions

 

[Señor_Contador]

[...]But why did it only show up on the rest day and not after Tourmalet unless he used it rest day morning. Have to wait and see. I kind of hope it is not true but it really doesn't matter I guess because they are all probably dirty.

Alberto's PR machine is already working overtime and are saying that the positive was on such a trace amount it should've not been picked up.

I mean, Alberto knew Andy was going to attack. He also knew the Luxembourgher was stronger than him at this Tour. I can honestly see him crapping his pants watching his blood parameters sink and decided to take a little of the sumphin-sumphin.

I do have to say it is a bit odd though.

 

[Anonymous]

The fact is that unless they have the left-overs from the meal, the food contamination theory is just a theory. He is going down, and quite honestly, if he doesn't it will be a travesty as the excuses everyone else uses are not accepted either. A doping positive is a positive. Period. Everyone said DHEA was not really a performance enhancer either, and yet we saw 2 or 3 people go down last year for that. It may not seem logical that he used something like that, nor that it was on the day before a big stage, but elite professional cyclists are experts in doping regimin, and sad to say, but I believe what we have here is the usage of a product that he thought he could get away with.

 

[Squares]

Lance tested positive for EPO in the '99 Tour quite a few times.

Was that confirmed in the A and B samples?